The Rumor Mill -- unsubstantiated, yet possible relevant information

[mcme]

I tend to think that the Shannan Gilbert case and the LISK case can be two very coincidental but distinctively different cases.

I am convinced this is true.

 

[Puggle]

I know some of them casually as neighbors and community members.
It's not that I don't trust the Post, I read that rag daily. It's the lack of supporting info with the story. Considering how big it would be if there actually was a third person there that night, no other news source dug deeper or corroborated it by adding a name to the mother, police source or "drifter". I feel it was either made up or spoofed to the Post writer who jumped on the chance to be printed, and once nothing could be verified, all other news outlets dropped it as incredible.
I also believe MP's and JB's stories support one another, including their phone records, and both would jump at the chance to add a third person who's story matched and helped exonerate them.

What if any other person...persons..were so well known and connected...and protected by corrupt cops??

Do you seriously think that information would come out.....if the powers that be didn't want it too...

 

[mcme]

I've posted it on this site before, and I'll say it again here......
I don't believe the LISK(GB4)ever had any contact with his victims before he killed them. He simply knows what a hooker looks like, where they're likely to be found late at night and how to speak to one without causing alarm. When he wanted to kill, he went and found a victim closest to where he was at the time and then dumped them were he was comfortable dumping them. I believe those girls were convenient victims because of what they did and where they were at a particular time. No stalking, no silly rules about no phones, no sex parties with a bunch of guys, just a guy who wanted to kill and a victim who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[mcme]

What if any other person...persons..were so well known and connected...and protected by corrupt cops??

Do you seriously think that information would come out.....if the powers that be didn't want it too...

I believe conspiracies happen, but I don't imagine them to be occurring any time I need a theory to be supported.
If it were that important to keep the info secret, MP and JB, along with the "drifter", would be dead.

 

[Puggle]

Free for all......not sure if it amounts to anything.

226 Higbie Lane .... Higbie Wine and Liquor. .226 Higbie Lane speakeasy ...also known as the establishment " Someplace Else"

Lyndsay i am fairly certain this is where the arrest took place...a search of Bartenders and bouncers for underage serving of alcohol will proove this............still trying to find out where Mr Brewer was once a bouncer........cough!!

Who realy owns this place?

This place is Really well liked by a brother of the *major now deceased drug dealer from oak beach.....Really Liked!!!!! Seems he got himself arrested .. (thanks lyndsay)......Mmmm wonder if such an establishment might have been good for Mr H Feingold to peddle his wares prior to his conviction...?

Same brother who likes to go party on Ocean Beach Park Fire Island...22nd May 2010 says "Fire Island season has began..lets get ready to party".... going by his current FB account (print screen save..sure it won't last long)

I believe there is little chance Mr Brewer and this person didn't know each other as they share mutal close friends....and the 226 Higbie Lane connects them.

FB connections show mutual close FB friends between the two......so I have NO DOUBT they know each other. Ant...Sca, Ed...Wal, Edd..Cas, Jo...Mc Ca..., Ro...Ono,.

When the brother of this drug dealer mentions going to a pool party at Harrahs in Atlantic City.....that peaked my interest....check out 9n google earth the proximity. ..

SO there is a possible way to connect an ex cocaine importer/dealer on long island associated with a producer...friends with the last possible known victim...an escort whose body is found amongst a graveyard of other escorts....what does it all mean??

What other corruption was going down...to allow a serial killer to thrive...Blackmail?.....covering ones own arse because your too deep in ...

 

[Puggle]

I believe conspiracies happen, but I don't imagine them to be occurring any time I need a theory to be supported.
If it were that important to keep the info secret, MP and JB, along with the "drifter", would be dead.

I dont have any theory...nor have I ever pushed...suggested one... A simple search of my profile and posts will show that.

I am only interested in adding.....facts that I can find....Occasionally addding opinion....

Like now....


IMO that's not how loyalty works...

Pak and Brewer have kept their mouths shut.....hence they are not dead...

See...there are codes of loyalty even in worlds most wouldnt understand......providing that argument to me is farcical....and naive in this world of so many variables of what is and isnt acceptable.

 

[zero dinh]

I was gonna just quietly slip out of the comments, I see that isn't gonna happen, so please bear with me. I should have just let the comment on Bittrolff go, that's my fault. I probably should have never brought it up in my blog. But I did so I will do my best to explain why I don'nt discuss it deeper. First off over all I have looked into the case and all the people I have talked to, it is obvious that early on real info and possibly leaked info was shared with those who used the inside info to mix with crap. Some of these are crazy, some are attention seekers, some have serious issues with their neighbors, again I have to point out that many here accuse me of looking to much at that part of all this while I still hear those names and their ideas discussed here ( flukeyou and Candyce in just the last few pages) well regardless of what you think of my blogs, I know quite a bit about all these people and the fact they are still discussed here... well I'll leave that to each of you to understand. This is gonna get long so I'll break it up into a couple comments, again, please bare with me. So let's say Bittrolff didn't know anyone in oak beach and the info I was given was false. It would just be more false info to waste time on.if it's legit, and I do believe it is, then maybe it is something that shouldn't be leaked out so fast and confused with wrong info by those out there doing there best to do so. And just because its not illegal to work on a house or know people in oak beach. It might be something that is being looked at. moo Trust me I obviously want to blog about it. But then I really would be no better than those I blogged about, something I heard a lot over the years.

 

[zero dinh]

And just to elaborate... LL6, you keep implying that Colletti changed his story because of different articles out there. Which is kind backwards thinking to me. Maybe he was misquoted or different articles got info from unreliable places... that echo chamber I was talking about. Let me give an example. LL6, you and I were mentioned in an article recently, I'm guessing you read it. The writer says I told him I contacted Dorothy at a bank via phone. Not true. What I said was I contacted Dorothy's husband at the bank he worked at, then later I had called Dorothy via the cell phone number she gives out to every one. He confused th 2 calls. Simple mistake made by the author of the article and not his fault, he was dealing with lots of info at once. Point is, articles make mistakes and some times get the info wrong, I would think anyone sleuthing open cases on the internet would understand that. Here's another example, that article we are both mentioned in also says one of my best friend's mother was killed by a serial killer. This is true. It's also something I don't blog about, out of respect for my friend and his family. But to expand on what I'm trying to say I will discuss it a little. I was 16 when it happened. It was devastating times for many people I knew. Years later after the guy was caught and there was the internet to look up info about it I googled it. there was all sorts of mistakes in the things I read including wrong dates of deaths and when bodies were found. They had my friends mom's death in the wrong year! So just want to point out, just because an article says something does not mean it is accurate. And it definitely doesn't mean people changed their stories or lied. Articles are written on hearsay a lot of the time.

 

[zero dinh]

One last thing, your story of someone knocking on the Brewers house is a story I have heard. It comes from one of flukes flunkies, Jen. She posts here but I know I'm not supposed to discuss stuff like that. I have heard the story of her in a group going an knocking on the door. So if this is where the story of "Lenny" comes from... I would put it up there with all the other crazy stories Jen has told. Man I'm gonna get it for that. But it's true, Jen tells stories of her friend speaking to the serial killers wife, stories her phone being spoofed and cranked, stories of weird images appearing on her tv, and yes stories of going up knocking on the door. Again, you guys chase the same things I have, and it hasn't lead anywhere anywhere.

 

[zero dinh]

I seemed to comment to quickly. I apologIse. So I decided to look at a few old emails about the time Jen and others walked up and knocked on the door, and I have from a different credible source that the so called drifter did in fact answer. This would either imply that the author of the book was still there or it is a different person. You may be n to something there ll6

 

[zero dinh]

Again, LL6 my bad, I now have found emails mentioning that the guy who answered the door that day was known to be there the night Shannan went missing.But again this is where real info possibly leaked info got all mixed up with the author of the book and other things. But from reading through my old emails I see you are correct that a group did knock on that door and the guy who answered was believed to be the so called drifter and people close to the case think he was there that night. I did not see his name mentioned in my emails though

 

[LindsayLohan6]

I know some of them casually as neighbors and community members.
It's not that I don't trust the Post, I read that rag daily. It's the lack of supporting info with the story. Considering how big it would be if there actually was a third person there that night, no other news source dug deeper or corroborated it by adding a name to the mother, police source or "drifter". I feel it was either made up or spoofed to the Post writer who jumped on the chance to be printed, and once nothing could be verified, all other news outlets dropped it as incredible.
I also believe MP's and JB's stories support one another, including their phone records, and both would jump at the chance to add a third person who's story matched and helped exonerate them.

And yet there are so many other aspects of the case you never see mentioned in the few news article that aren't just copy and pasted. No mention of any male victims from manorville. Maybe the third person's story doesn't match

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Again, LL6 my bad, I now have found emails mentioning that the guy who answered the door that day was known to be there the night Shannan went missing.But again this is where real info possibly leaked info got all mixed up with the author of the book and other things. But from reading through my old emails I see you are correct that a group did knock on that door and the guy who answered was believed to be the so called drifter and people close to the case think he was there that night. I did not see his name mentioned in my emails though

His name was Lenny

 

[zero dinh]

Well those who knocked on the door that day know who he is, which means others do too. Which I'm guessing is how the name lenny came out. Still the people who knocked on the door were with Mari, so that would mean she knows as well, so that would mean le knows as well, so it's known. Maybe there is reason good or bad his name isn't out there.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Perhaps but just because Mari knows something doesn't mean that LE has thoroughly looked into it. But if you read between the lines from post article from April 8 and April 9...they implications are that the drifter is LE's suspect

 

[zero dinh]

I totally agree ll6. Plus it's still unclear which part of LE was actually looking into it. Like I said you might be on to something. And from what I can tell people do know who it was. So it's up to them to make it known.

 

[marble]

Interesting.

(I have nothing more to offer, sorry)

 

[Puggle]

Why does Marc Feingold have an interest in 226 Higbie lane......brother owns home on fire Island....Lyndsay...ipad keeps crashing.....

Trips yo Atlantic city.....even kim says Cocaine is involved.........

 

[deedee21]

Why does Marc Feingold have an interest in 226 Higbie lane......brother owns home on fire Island....Lyndsay...ipad keeps crashing.....

Trips yo Atlantic city.....even kim says Cocaine is involved.........

I disagree. KO was applying her own experiences. Ex. Maureen went to NYC because she was facing an eviction. She escorted because she needed rent money. Amber escorted because she was a heroin addict. Seems like MW would have been more than happy to get out of the life. But she had someone by her side who was not going to let that happen. Different reasons for different folks. Escorts and johns dont turn to adds because they are looking for someone to share a line of coke with.

 

[Puggle]

Yeah de...I agree what your saying.... Ill will try to expand On what I was trying to type only to have my post dissapear five times...