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The question for the jury to decide is why that happened. In closing arguments Monday, Harris’ defense attorney said his client was “clueless” and forgetful. But a prosecutor called Harris a murderer with a “malignant heart” who killed his child to escape his family commitments as he sank deeper into a double life of sexual flirting and affairs with women he met online.

“It’s not a case of an adult hating his child,” prosecutor Chuck Boring told the jury. “It’s just that he loved himself and his other obsessions more than that little boy.”
 
Not meaning to sound snarky. But what is he suppose to be doing that would be acceptable.

Just like when Leanna was on stand, if she smiled looking or thinking of a happier time she was wrong, when she was emotional, she was fake. I just don't understand. JMHO,

Well, it is not about what is acceptable. It is about what is understandable, imo. The jury was just moments ago, given the green light to begin deliberations for his malice murder charges of his baby boy. And as they walk out he looking so grief stricken and broken.' Minutes later he is laughing really hard, not just smiling, but lots of laughter, and it continues for quite awhile, as he jokes with someone at the table. I just find it very odd. It is not unacceptable, just hard for me to understand.
 
Not meaning to sound snarky. But what is he suppose to be doing that would be acceptable.

Just like when Leanna was on stand, if she smiled looking or thinking of a happier time she was wrong, when she was emotional, she was fake. I just don't understand. JMHO,
Right? Remember when she sipped some water and someone proclaimed it a sign of being uncomfortable? Couldn't just be thirst...

Some people just look for the worst in everything and even embellish with things they can't possibly know.

I remember my toddler once had a lil melt down in a convenience store, right at the counter, over a bag of candy... A woman in line behind me loudly proclaimed," Somebody doesn't have Time Out at their house!" ( seriously!)

I whipped around and said,
Looks like you don't have Mind Your Own Bussiness at yours!

We can't know what other people's lives are truly like, even (and perhaps especially!), if we read about them in the news...

People can be so cruel. meh.
 
Wow watching him (Ross) laugh and chatting-no words.


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I know. :no:

I can totally understand a quick smile, a laugh at an offhand comment or something like that. But he was laughing loud and long like ehe was at The Comedy Store or something.
 
Right? Remember when she sipped some water and someone proclaimed it a sign of being uncomfortable? Couldn't just be thirst...

Some people just look for the worst in everything and even embellish with things they can't possibly know.

I remember my toddler once had a lil melt down in a convenience store, right at the counter, over a bag of candy... A woman in line behind me loudly proclaimed," Somebody doesn't have Time Out at their house!" ( seriously!)

I whipped around and said,
Looks like you don't have Mind Your Own Bussiness at yours!

We can't know what other people's lives are truly like, even (and perhaps especially!), if we read about them in the news...

People can be so cruel. meh.

So are you saying it is cruel for some to feel it is odd for Ross to be belly laughing and goofing around minutes after the jury began deliberating in his Malice Murder case?
 
If the jury had just been charged and about to deliberate on if I killed my son or not and if I was about to be a convicted sex offender, I'd likely be shaking and puking with nerves.

I probably would be too. But doesn't matter what any one does here it seems not appropriate to someone. Just like the witnesses changing their statements from their orig, it like have feel or say what others thing should. They had to be reminded of their orig. Or then have some who down right don't tell truth, like HD Security Wesley Houston, said he did but then was impeached by both Stoddard and Leanna. JMHO
 
Top that off with the incontrovertible fact that he will be convicted of the sex charges, he will be a felon, he will be a registered sex offender, he will never be able to vote again (irony that tomorrow is election day--can he vote via absentee ballot at this point--is this Ross's last election?), he will never be CEO of a company (like he dreamed), and if he gets out of prison, he will likely be spending the rest of his life living in his mama's basement in Tuscaloosa. Seriously, he exchanged nudes with adolescent girls and got caught---that's enough to be puking.

Depends if he is convicted on those (I have no doubt there) but then possible could get overturned on appeal. JMHO
 
Well, it is not about what is acceptable. It is about what is understandable, imo. The jury was just moments ago, given the green light to begin deliberations for his malice murder charges of his baby boy. And as they walk out he looking so grief stricken and broken.' Minutes later he is laughing really hard, not just smiling, but lots of laughter, and it continues for quite awhile, as he jokes with someone at the table. I just find it very odd. It is not unacceptable, just hard for me to understand.

Without knowing what they are laughing at or talking it is hard to know and easy to assume. Just like when Jim Persinger was up there saying all that mess about what he FOUND.. that was about RH Client... yes I saw Lumpkin and Rodriguez and RH crack a smile faint... they let them go... and then Evans again had to tell the court oops we were wrong again. Could be nervous laughter. Who knows. Who cares.
 
a belly laugh while the jury deliberates. even scott peterson didn't sink that low.
 
I will try once again to post...I am glad to see other people are having trouble staying on WS. There are many following this case and others. Thanks to the mods for all they do.

Watching RH today, I saw a lot to me...and this is MOO. I felt he faked the tears. I saw times when he appeared to be mad, times when he actually spaced out, tuning out the proceedings and sometimes just too happy when the jury was gone over the past days in chatting with his team. I for one could not be happy if I was on trail. I do not think he ever thought he would be caught. Infact, the sexting charges I would bet he never even thought of. He never thought LE would take his cell phone.

On all the sex charges that pertain to this trial, I would vote guilty. If there is another trial on remaining sex charges, I would vote guilty again.

On the murder charge....this is MOO. RH and his ex wife did talk many times about 'leaving a child in the hot car'. They may have even researched it. Too much of this has happened and I can see a research being done. I do believe at one time RH did leave Cooper in the car, forgetting him....but somehow Cooper was remembered. LH remembered that time. I cannot get over thought that RH though he would be now a spokesperson....that to me is thinking ahead! Premeditation? I think so.

RH job performance was going down hill fast. I am surprised HD did not fire him. I bet they were building a case against him so they would not be sued or have to pay out to him any monies. How can a person work 8 hours a day, which he did not, get their work done and sext so much? No wonder he never got his assignments done.

I think most of us that have children, adults or other major responsibilities understand how sometimes that can be very stressful. We remember the times we were free to do what we wanted. With that said, I think most of us know we accepted the responsibility to have children, take in elders, commit to other issues and knew that our free time was no longer ours. If we wanted to change that, we would have done what we could legally, whether it be, divorce and split child care, find another solution for the elders, quit the other issues if possible, share them or solve them. Children are a joy, an extension of our families, but they take time, commitment love and work. When a couple have a child, some do not think ahead....just what they will be giving up. I believe that neither parent thought ahead that children would impact their lives so much and they would have to give up so much, especially RH. It was a surprise to him!

RH had the choice to divorce is ex wife to have his freedom. LH would have taken on almost ALL of the responsibility for Cooper. RH did NOT want to pay alimony or child support....he wanted his money, his freedom and no responsibility. If RH had not been spending monies on sexting they would have had a down payment on a house. I just wonder how much he did spend!? I wonder how much LH was asking about where all of RH income was going?

LH knew RH had affairs or sex issues in the past while they were married since RH had been to some sort of counseling. Why oh why did she not leave? So many reasons. She knew that there was a chance RH would forget Cooper again. We do not know what they actually talked about, but my feeling is LH had a terrible feeling that RH just may leave Cooper in a hot car again....and on purpose. She just hoped he never would.

The day RH left Cooper in the car....I do not think he thought 'this is the day', but I do think RH did think this, "What if Cooper is left in the car by accident if it happens it happens. I would be free. I don't plan on doing it but if it happens, okay what can I do so it really looks like a accident and I am not blamed.'' That morning after breakfast something made him snap....sexting that night, a comment from someone he was 'chatting' with, an argument with LH....but at the moment he left ast food, he decided that was the morning.

There is no way RH did not know, did not see, did not hear (yes he heard), Cooper in the too small car seat. RH did put the light bulbs in the car to check on Cooper. I have no doubt about that. When RH discovered Cooper....his actions afterwards were just bizarre....I do not need to go into them....everyone here has read them. Then his actions at the station....again bizarre. Those actions do not mean he is guilty but they sure make him look strange.

So even though RH did not preplan the day and time Cooper would die, he though about it a lot. Then in an short matter of time, he made the decision that morning to leave Cooper in the car....the end of a beautiful boy.

I do not know if he will get Murder 1.....but I hope if not, that any charge of sexting in connection with this murder will mean RH will go away for a long time....and then IF there is another trial on the other sexting charges, I hope he is committed to jail for the rest of his natural life. His life in jail will be hell, not the fun and free time he thought he would have with no child and divorcing his wife.

I have read all of Hope4More's posts....she was there is bring out the other side and make us think, 'what if then maybe this happened, this is what was actually said' and so much more. I know there are other posters too that did that, but I kept following her, reading what she wrote. Sometimes I agreed, sometimes not. We all read but interpret some things differently. I am glad those posters were there, to present and remind us of the other side, that maybe RH is not guilty of murder. I am glad the other posters were there to say, RH is guilty of murder and why. In going over everything, I still feel through all this RH is guilty of murder he never thought he would be caught, he thought because he worked in an area of LE, he had some buddies who would not question Coopers death, he thought he was free and was shocked he was put in jail immediately. RH never went home again. RH you messed up big time, never to be free again.

I think the verdict will be reached by Thursday before the long week end.

Got to go....doggies are hungry!!!

Hi Josie. :)

On just one point. There is no evidence that RH had ever left Cooper in a car before. That is inaccurate. The "I've only done that once" referred to RH forgetting-once- to pick Cooper up from daycare.
 
Not meaning to sound snarky. But what is he suppose to be doing that would be acceptable.

Just like when Leanna was on stand, if she smiled looking or thinking of a happier time she was wrong, when she was emotional, she was fake. I just don't understand. JMHO,

He is supposed to sit there, quietly, respectfully. There's appropriate behavior for every situation and a belly laugh at that moment in time was inappropriate at the very least. His attorney should've lead by example.
 
Who cares? People posting here do.

I heard the jury instructions loud and clear when it came to prior testimony and changes in that testimony. IMO the detectives gave very reasonable explanations as to why they said what they said at the time (at the probably cause hearing). I suspect the jury understands this as well.

I hope they paid attention to all of Leanna's lies. She was after all the star witness.


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Without knowing what they are laughing at or talking it is hard to know and easy to assume. Just like when Jim Persinger was up there saying all that mess about what he FOUND.. that was about RH Client... yes I saw Lumpkin and Rodriguez and RH crack a smile faint... they let them go... and then Evans again had to tell the court oops we were wrong again. Could be nervous laughter. Who knows. Who cares.

Did you see his laughing and his banter? It does not even matter what it was about, imo. It just seems so odd that he could laugh and joke around at such a serious moment in his life.

It did not seem like nervous laughter. Have a look at see what you think...
 
Did you see his laughing and his banter? It does not even matter what it was about, imo. It just seems so odd that he could laugh and joke around at such a serious moment in his life.

It did not seem like nervous laughter. Have a look at see what you think...

See it? I not only saw it I heard it. It was loud. He has a distinctive voice and laugh. I take issue with him acting differently in front of the jury-


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Right? Remember when she sipped some water and someone proclaimed it a sign of being uncomfortable? Couldn't just be thirst...

Some people just look for the worst in everything and even embellish with things they can't possibly know.

I remember my toddler once had a lil melt down in a convenience store, right at the counter, over a bag of candy... A woman in line behind me loudly proclaimed," Somebody doesn't have Time Out at their house!" ( seriously!)

I whipped around and said,
Looks like you don't have Mind Your Own Bussiness at yours!

We can't know what other people's lives are truly like, even (and perhaps especially!), if we read about them in the news...

People can be so cruel. meh.

Just makes no sense. I know people who have lost children and they laugh and cry and cry and laugh. Or when my grandparents or other family members have passed. Grief was horrible but there were still times we laughed about stuff. I have had 2 sister in laws pass away YOUNG, both had health problems and both had a teenage son. Each one of those boys reacted differently. I will never forget the older one telling his young cousin it was ok to cry. OR Laugh. He didn't do either, his mom had a lot of health issues and was in hospital a lot. It has been 3 years and it just not really hitting him hard. People react different.
 
Ross is the master of compartmentalization. I don't find him laughing to be surprising.
 
Without knowing what they are laughing at or talking it is hard to know and easy to assume. Just like when Jim Persinger was up there saying all that mess about what he FOUND.. that was about RH Client... yes I saw Lumpkin and Rodriguez and RH crack a smile faint... they let them go... and then Evans again had to tell the court oops we were wrong again. Could be nervous laughter. Who knows. Who cares.

No matter how the jury votes on the core charges, they're going to vote guilty on charges that will keep Ross locked up for many years. I remember thinking on the JA- 🤬🤬🤬's final day of trial.....this is the last day for the rest of her life she'll ever wear street clothes, the last day she'll be around free people doing normal things, like thinking about what to cook for dinner, and where to go vote tomorrow.

I bet RH is drinking it all in, while he still can.
 
Who cares? People posting here do.

I heard the jury instructions loud and clear when it came to prior testimony and changes in that testimony. IMO the detectives gave very reasonable explanations as to why they said what they said at the time (at the probably cause hearing). I suspect the jury understands this as well.

I hope they paid attention to all of Leanna's lies. She was after all the star witness.


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when miss he ruined my life was on the stand i wanted to vomit. forget ruining her life. he ruined his child's life and i don't see that she did such a wonderful job either.
 
He is supposed to sit there, quietly, respectfully. There's appropriate behavior for every situation and a belly laugh at that moment in time was inappropriate at the very least. His attorney should've lead by example.

Well when the laugh was done, was when the Attorneys were getting the exhibits together. Everyone was informal and it was to the Jail person and the the court bailiff that he was speaking with. I sure if it was not okay then they wouldn't have been talking with him. He acted appropriately during court.
 
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