The SODDI Defense (Some Other Dude Did It)...If not KC, who?

[Brini]

I am equally amazed to read posters stating that they are certain of Casey's guilt and that she murdered her daughter. in this country, a defendent is innocent until proven guilty.

I think it is important to remember that ALL of the evidence that has been revealed thusfar to the public is the PROSECUTION'S case. Of course it is going to make Casey look guilty!!! That is the entire point of the prosecution's case - to prove Casey's guilt! The prosecution would NEVER have ANY evidence that points to a different murderer other than Casey!

The question should be, what evidence do we have that could indicate another person was responsible for this crime. As with any case, there is a mixture of facts and possibilities. We do know that there are innocent people who have been convicted of crimes under the United States Justice system. It's an unfortunate fact.

As to whether or not Casey is guilty, I have no way of knowing. I don't know what her attorney knows. I don't know what facts and evidence that the Prosecution has left out of their case in developing the case against Casey. Which is why people should wait for the trial to be complete BEFORE making up their mind about a defendants guilt or innocence. Yes, the Prosecutors case makes Casey look guilty, which is as it should be, but as far as what has been released it is entirely circumstantial AND entirely the prosecutor's case. Without any direct evidence linking Casey to Caylee's death at this point, it is impossible to know for certain at this time if Casey is innocent or guilty.

Well, here's what's hanging up a lot of us. Most people who lose a child not delay reporting it out of existence, and do not drive around with the evidence of said child's death and decomposition in the trunk.

Please forgive run-on sentence.

 

[Brini]

Ah but I have to disagree here, a good SOD defense may also be so ridiculous that some, just one juror is left to wonder if it is plausible. Great examples of this have already been put forth in this thread. No relation to evidence is needed, only the ability to fantasize. Remember, only one juror need be fooled.

But, that ONE juror might be convinced would not result in an acquittal. It would result in a hung jury and a retrial.

It's highly improbable that all 11 other jurors would overlook the evidence against KC, to go with a single SODDI-convinced juror.

 

[Brini]

I did not see the show so thank you for this update, it is very interesting to me.
I will not convince you that you are off base because all of out thoughts a valid and helpful if veering off the "Open and Shut Guilty line of thinking" While that may be the verdict in the end.
From the start I did not subscribe to Casey is evil kill her.
I do not believe that. And the one thing Tonie did say that jumps out at me is: he couldn't reconcile the KC in jail with the KC he knew. I am sure the investigators did already check the playhouse for any residua of any kind.
But like you his involvement has also crossed my mind.
Thank you for this report.
Untill this case is over all of your thoughts are good.

TonE cooperated with LE, to the point of allowing himself to be wired in discussions with LA.

 

[Gaia713]

Well, here's what's hanging up a lot of us. Most people who lose a child not delay reporting it out of existence, and do not drive around with the evidence of said child's death and decomposition in the trunk.

Please forgive run-on sentence.

That's it in a nutshell. AND I disagree with only the prosecutions side being put out there. Mr. Baez has not hesitated to put his opinion and his so-called "facts" outthere.

Somehow, knowing SODDI and not pursuing that publically seems like defense negligence. Just like Cindy"s claima that they KNOW who did it. It would help the defense a lot more IF they would name this mysterious person who did it and get KC out of jail NOW, not after a long, expensive trial.

Does Floridea law have reciprical discovery? If so, why isn't the defense providing same to the prosecution. I'm sure the prosecution would LOVE to investigate these guilty people.

 

[Brini]

The defense could say that KC's emotions, or lack of, have been due to her subconscience "guilt" of not being able to protect her child. Many family members (parents especially) feel guilty that they could not protect their children from harm, i.e. a playground accident, a child runs into the road and parent can't react quickly enough to save them, a daughter is raped as an adult and the father couldn't protect her.... All of these feelings of guilt cause normal people to react in strange ways. Just a thought of how the defense may try to counter some of KC's actions after Caylee went missing. JMO.

But, said guilt does not cause them to drive around with a dead child in the trunk. The only other mother who DID drive around with her child's remains also killed he child.

 

[Brini]

Here, how'bout this SOD:

KC had sold herself into marriage with a Saudi prince to cover GA's gambling debt. When she tried to back out, the powerful Arabs kidnapped Caylee. Then when the brave KC still refused marriage, the powerful Arabs killed Caylee and framed KC to teach her a lesson. Since they control the Orange County sheriff's office, this was made all the easier. This is what CA meant when she said KC would receive "Mother of the Year," for what she has done for Caylee.

Oh if the public only knew how brave KC had been in trying to protect both Caylee and her family!

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Gaia713]

But, that ONE juror might be convinced would not result in an acquittal. It would result in a hung jury and a retrial.

It's highly improbable that all 11 other jurors would overlook the evidence against KC, to go with a single SODDI-convinced juror.

A hung jury only allows the defense atty to claim a "victory" and give the prosecution a chance to fill in the holes that caused a hung jury.

It never fails to amaze me how a defense atty claims a "win" with a hung jury. It's only a win if the prosecution chooses not to redo the trial. In the meantime, the defendent remains in jail w/o bail until the second atty. I think KC would rip Baez a new one if he gets a hung jury. She NEEDS to party.
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[Brini]

Of course, the Arabs are quite unpopular right now... perhaps... The jilted prince story?

Or... Isn't JB of spanish decent? Perhaps the Mexican mafia here, and they are paying JB?

I love you!:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[Gaia713]

Yes, and as I just responded to someone else, the defense may build a foundation of subconscious guilt for KC (to justify her actions) for simply NOT being able to protect her daughter. Not that she had anything to do with her demise or even could have prevented it, but that she, as a loving parent, would feel guilty regardless, as would any normal parent in this situation. Therefore, setting the stage that she may not care what happens to her at this point, so why speak up about what she knows. They would go on to say that it is their job to speak for her now. This is just what I think the defense may try to say, not that I think they are right or that it will work. JMO....

Allow me to toss this in - where is the "script" that KC was given to follow? Even if he is able to get her acquitteed (darn, pig just flew by my window), she still has neglect charges to face, There's no way in h***, they can EVER prove KC was a responsible parent.

 

[Brini]

Yes, I see it now, in an effort to rid the US of the Mexican mob, poor KC was working undercover, has been framed, and can't speak in her own defense without betraying her government who sent her into dangerous waters in the name of national defense!

Powerful forces at work here!

Boy, this SOD stuff is hard work!!!

STTTTOOOOPPPPP!

My sinuses are full of coffee! (Why can't I find the floorlaught smiley, when I REALLY need it!)

 

[Gaia713]

Of course, the Arabs are quite unpopular right now... perhaps... The jilted prince story?

Or... Isn't JB of spanish decent? Perhaps the Mexican mafia here, and they are paying JB?

Isn't Jose Puerto Rican? Wouldn't it be the Puerto Rican mafia?

 

[songline]

That's it in a nutshell. AND I disagree with only the prosecutions side being put out there. Mr. Baez has not hesitated to put his opinion and his so-called "facts" outthere.

Somehow, knowing SODDI and not pursuing that publically seems like defense negligence. Just like Cindy"s claima that they KNOW who did it. It would help the defense a lot more IF they would name this mysterious person who did it and get KC out of jail NOW, not after a long, expensive trial.

Does Floridea law have reciprical discovery? If so, why isn't the defense providing same to the prosecution. I'm sure the prosecution would LOVE to investigate these guilty people.

I have said it before I think JB is going to throw the case.
I think GA is not being a good father.

 

[songline]

Allow me to toss this in - where is the "script" that KC was given to follow? Even if he is able to get her acquitteed (darn, pig just flew by my window), she still has neglect charges to face, There's no way in h***, they can EVER prove KC was a responsible parent.

Right on about that part :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[songline]

TonE cooperated with LE, to the point of allowing himself to be wired in discussions with LA.

You are right, My thoughts about TonE are still vague.
I myself do not know what I am about to say; Just thoughts:
It comes from his position in the club, and if she sold drugs there and if he knows that,
then he may know more.
I am not suggesting that he did anything.

 

[Brini]

Hi Brini,
Lucky for KC, JB won't be allowed to stand in front of the jury to present the case...not DP qualified. I guess it depends of who (new DP attorney) they get to represent her case.

Tru dat!

 

[doobiedoo52]

No, the best SOD so far is CA did it. She so hated KC that to get back at her, she killed little Caylee and framed kc.

How about this one---The real nanny's name was not ZG--that's just what she told KC. Hence, all searches for the real ZG have been in vain and she's still running around out there pleased with herself. KC even sent LA to Puerto Rico looking for her. She had been abusing Caylee since she started babysitting and the child was getting old enough to tell so she had to be disposed of. In all honesty I pictured KC selling her to begin with. Money was so up her alley

 

[Brini]

That's it in a nutshell. AND I disagree with only the prosecutions side being put out there. Mr. Baez has not hesitated to put his opinion and his so-called "facts" outthere.

Somehow, knowing SODDI and not pursuing that publically seems like defense negligence. Just like Cindy"s claima that they KNOW who did it. It would help the defense a lot more IF they would name this mysterious person who did it and get KC out of jail NOW, not after a long, expensive trial.

Does Floridea law have reciprical discovery? If so, why isn't the defense providing same to the prosecution. I'm sure the prosecution would LOVE to investigate these guilty people.

There IS that!:clap::clap::blowkiss:

 

[Brini]

A hung jury only allows the defense atty to claim a "victory" and give the prosecution a chance to fill in the holes that caused a hung jury.

It never fails to amaze me how a defense atty claims a "win" with a hung jury. It's only a win if the prosecution chooses not to redo the trial. In the meantime, the defendent remains in jail w/o bail until the second atty. I think KC would rip Baez a new one if he gets a hung jury. She NEEDS to party.
,

Yes, JB will have at LEAST one new oriface!;-)

His little sweetheart will morph into all three of the Greek Furies!

 

[Rumpole]

Isn't Jose Puerto Rican? Wouldn't it be the Puerto Rican mafia?

What if with all KC’s involvement with event planning etc there is a political involvement in fund-raising events, voter registration etc?
Florida is a key electoral state, and June 2008 was an absolute critical time in the build up to the Presidential election. The Hispanic vote hugely important and obviously KC is involved with Baez, Zanaida, Ricardo and many others and organising mysterious trips to Puerto Rico.
I reckon; where there’s left-wing political fund-raising, and Hispanic voter registration, there is bound to be corruption and some VERY shady characters! (perhaps a Cuban involvement). Perhaps KC knew something that would have been an embarrassment to one of the campaigns (Say Obama and his radical associates), and so she had to be silenced? First with the abduction of Caylee by agent Zanny, and the “script” that KC had to follow. Obviously things went horribly wrong and Caylee was killed, but with all the national and international resources at their disposal it was no trouble to plant the body and other evidence to falsely implicate poor KC!
I think the Anthonys are on to it with there private investigators concentrating on Puerto Rico and the left-wing groups.

 

[Gaia713]

Yes, JB will have at LEAST one new oriface!;-)

His little sweetheart will morph into all three of the Greek Furies!

Personally, I would welcome a hung jury. Look at retials successes (high-profile) for a hung jury....Phil Spectre, Menendez Brother, Betty Broderick - all three convicted the second time around. I'm sure it's even more true in non high-profile cases.