The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #4

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"There are no suspects, but a half-dozen individuals remain under suspicion."
Columbia Daily Tribune (MO)
June 9, 2002


"Over the years investigators have whittled the list of potential suspects to about 10 names, which they declined to reveal."
Kansas City Star, The (MO)
June 7, 2002

Thanks for this find. It is my impression the K.C. Star is probably the most accurate. Additionally, it has also been reported by various sources that two of the original suspects have subsequently expired which if added to the remaining 10 suspects would equal 12. I have no idea who those might be but that is a very large list remaining even after 10 years. I'd be interested what the Star might have to say today on the subject. It is quite interesting that two newspapers could have such obviously conflicting numbers.

There is no known connection but recently the K.C. Star published a five part story on human trafficking. I wouldn't rule this motive out as part of the conclusion that "sexual assault" was the motive. This is the link for those interested.

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/1637831.html
 
Thanks for this find. It is my impression the K.C. Star is probably the most accurate. Additionally, it has also been reported by various sources that two of the original suspects have subsequently expired which if added to the remaining 10 suspects would equal 12. I have no idea who those might be but that is a very large list remaining even after 10 years. I'd be interested what the Star might have to say today on the subject. It is quite interesting that two newspapers could have such obviously conflicting numbers.

There is no known connection but recently the K.C. Star published a five part story on human trafficking. I wouldn't rule this motive out as part of the conclusion that "sexual assault" was the motive. This is the link for those interested.

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/1637831.html

I agree, K.C. Star probably is more accurate. However, the Jefferson City News-Tribune (MO) reported the same info as the Columbia Daily Tribune.
"Springfield police have followed more than 5,200 leads that have taken them to more than 20 states, Sgt. Mike Owen says. They have listened to numerous psychics -- one even attempted to elicit clues from Levitt's dog -- and called in a team of retired investigators to review the case. There are no suspects, but about a half-dozen individuals remain under suspicion."
Jefferson City News-Tribune (MO)
June 9, 2002

I wonder where these smaller newspapers got their info?
 
I've wondered the same thing whether it might have turned into a sexual assault case although the originating action was something else. That's a valid point although the article I quoted from an earlier poster does not lend itself to that interpretation. The article itself leaves no wiggle room so far as I can tell. It didn't say that the ultimate motive was sexual assault only that it was sexual assault. So one is left to wonder.

Well whatever reasoning behind the sexual assault motive I believe came from the investigation itself. They looked into the lives of the women and found little or no evidence to support drugs. This was documented. So if you take away the drug activity with the three what is left?

Let us stipulate that it played out as you posit. What does one make of the three week surveillance on the home? Would that be for the mere intention of burglarizing the home? Certainly that would be taking extreme measures to ensure a successful entry into the home, would it not?

One point I think should be made is this information came after a recanvassing of the neighborhood more than 2 months after the crime. It also stated that the white van CRUISED the neighborhood. SURVEILLANCE is not the right word. Is it reliable? I am not sure. I can tell you that working in a neighborhood for a long period of time is not unusual, I know this through my own work. If there were painters, roofers, construction workers doing a job in the area they could very well have been seen often driving by the house. With that said, they could have observed the two women coming and going and knew that there was no man at the residence. This activity could have started an obsession with one of the women? To take that further it would be possible that an encounter with the women could have taken place that no one knew about. There was some speculation that stalking could have played a part in the crime. During the AMW show the police revealed this.

"Investigators also have considered that stalking led to the women' disappearences, a theory revealed during friday's broadcast." NL March 6, 1993

I've heard two versions of the alleged confession to the location of the bodies. One comes from a much earlier poster who, as I said, appears almost certainly to have been involved in the search. He claims that NOTHING (presumably) Garrison provided regarding anything proved to have value. His credibility dropped to zero. That is, of course if this poster, was indeed who he implied he was. One would have to go back to Thread #1 to read his post. I believe he has made numerous posts here about this case and others. I attempted to make contact with him but it was not successful.

The other version I have heard is that a certain police officer, now retired, personally handled Garrison and somehow dropped the ball or didn't handle him skillfully. That implies that Garrison did have credibility.

I need to review this particular part of the crime, I know there was a split in credibility of the information by the police. Now as far as the officer I have heard this also. I have heard Garrison "lawyered up", but I can find nothing that leads me to believe this to be the case. Does he tell the truth or is he leading the police estray? I personally think that it does not benefit him to lead them estray. He inserted himself into this case for what? He is now a suspect. He also was much more specific than Cox was.

" His status as a missing women suspect began in mid-1993, about a year after the vanishings, as he sat in Greene County jail, charged with a weapons offense." NL June 7, 1997

This to me does not make sense. If he was not a suspect before he has nothing to gain if he is lying.

Another interesting bit of information is the Webster county search was not the only place he revealed.

"Garrison, 38, told reporters in the past that he knew where the women were taken, how they died, and where they were buried. His tale included an alleged trip to Lake Springfield, and burial sites in Webster county and between here and Kansas City." NL June 7, 1997



The other factor we have to deal with is with Cox. Leaving aside Cox's credibility for a moment, is the very real effort that went into attempting to coax out of Cox the location of the remains. As I recall the officers (one now a major with the SPD) may have made up to two trips to visit with Cox in Texas but he wouldn't budge off his non-denial denial. What we are left to ponder are two letters to the N/L and a taped interview on KY3 with Cox (which I have not viewed) which strongly imply he was the best suspect they had. So far as I know, Cox has been stated to be the number #1 suspect in the case. His history is all too sordid to repeat here again but there is no good reason to summarily discount him since he "beat the rap" in Florida and walked off death row and alleged to have had had contact with Ted Bundy, the master serial murderer on death row, who, if memory serves me correctly, gave advice to the effect never to allow the bodies to be found. And when Cox was finally brought to justice he had a "kill kit" in his vehicle which implies he had evil intentions. We may never know what he has done unless at some point he decides to come clean. There is no indication he will do that.

Cox is just an unknown in my book, I do not believe he had ties to Garrison. I see his vague non-denial denying as a red herring to the game he is playing.

So we are left with Cox and Garrison; known predators, and we have a news report from 1995 which clearly states this was a case of sexual assault and not drug related. In view of what we believe we know to be the likely circumstances of the exit out of town, we can probably extrapolate that there was a connection with Rogersville and meth has been brought up time and time again although not proven, and even discounted, by the news article, which as I said, leaves no wiggle room.

I have heard some of theories about Rogersville and think that some of the research is flawed and some of the information is hearsay. I do not believe there is a drug connection directly attached to the women.

Having said all of this, it does make eminent good sense that the abductions were carried out to prevent Suzie's testimony which may have brought bigger fish into the case. Whoever they may have been would have had ample motive to prevent her testimony. If, as someone believe, this was because of a drug connection then the news article or the information provided to the news media was fabricated in order to throw off the perpetrators. That cannot be ruled out. Since none of us, to my knowledge, has seen the actual police file, we don't know where the truth lies.

In my opinion if Suzie's testimony was that troublesome, they would not have had to go to this length to keep her quiet. It would be just as easy to inrimidate her and not risk the death penalty.

If a gun were held to my head to come up with one correct answer, I would say that Cox and Garrison are somehow connected and this was indeed sexual assault which comports with the news article. That being the case, there is no police conspiracy to cover up the truth. They just can't bring the case to trial not having the physical evidence to get a conviction. Since the prosecutors in this area have been burned badly by two very high profile cases we can assume they are exercising extreme caution having only one bite at the apple.

I have one final point which I have raised previously. Where is it written that we must somehow ASSUME that either Suzie or Sherrill was or were the intended targets? Why is the assumption written in granite that Stacy was not the intended target? Certainly that does not rule out the sexual assault motive. We know very little of Stacy when all is said and done.[/quote]

I think it is entirely possible that Stacy could be the target. This could go along with the stalker theory.
 
I agree, K.C. Star probably is more accurate. However, the Jefferson City News-Tribune (MO) reported the same info as the Columbia Daily Tribune.
"Springfield police have followed more than 5,200 leads that have taken them to more than 20 states, Sgt. Mike Owen says. They have listened to numerous psychics -- one even attempted to elicit clues from Levitt's dog -- and called in a team of retired investigators to review the case. There are no suspects, but about a half-dozen individuals remain under suspicion."
Jefferson City News-Tribune (MO)
June 9, 2002

I wonder where these smaller newspapers got their info?

It is not inconceivable that the reporters were working together. Jefferson City and Columbia are only 32 miles apart. Jefferson City is the political center of gravity in Missouri while Columbia is the larger with about twice the population and where the University of Missouri is located, which is somewhat interesting in that they are famous for their school of journalism. It is possible the newspapers are owned and operated by the same people which might account for the same number of suspects reported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_School_of_Journalism
 
I agree, K.C. Star probably is more accurate. However, the Jefferson City News-Tribune (MO) reported the same info as the Columbia Daily Tribune.
"Springfield police have followed more than 5,200 leads that have taken them to more than 20 states, Sgt. Mike Owen says. They have listened to numerous psychics -- one even attempted to elicit clues from Levitt's dog -- and called in a team of retired investigators to review the case. There are no suspects, but about a half-dozen individuals remain under suspicion."
Jefferson City News-Tribune (MO)
June 9, 2002

I wonder where these smaller newspapers got their info
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Off the Associated Press Wire Service, I would expect. They didn't have their own reporters there to cover the daily press conferences held by LE.

The ten year, 2002 review done by Laura Bauer of the N-L is mostly a rehash of what was published previously.
 
I've wondered the same thing whether it might have turned into a sexual assault case although the originating action was something else. That's a valid point although the article I quoted from an earlier poster does not lend itself to that interpretation. The article itself leaves no wiggle room so far as I can tell. It didn't say that the ultimate motive was sexual assault only that it was sexual assault. So one is left to wonder.

Well whatever reasoning behind the sexual assault motive I believe came from the investigation itself. They looked into the lives of the women and found little or no evidence to support drugs. This was documented. So if you take away the drug activity with the three what is left?

Let us stipulate that it played out as you posit. What does one make of the three week surveillance on the home? Would that be for the mere intention of burglarizing the home? Certainly that would be taking extreme measures to ensure a successful entry into the home, would it not?

One point I think should be made is this information came after a recanvassing of the neighborhood more than 2 months after the crime. It also stated that the white van CRUISED the neighborhood. SURVEILLANCE is not the right word. Is it reliable? I am not sure. I can tell you that working in a neighborhood for a long period of time is not unusual, I know this through my own work. If there were painters, roofers, construction workers doing a job in the area they could very well have been seen often driving by the house. With that said, they could have observed the two women coming and going and knew that there was no man at the residence. This activity could have started an obsession with one of the women? To take that further it would be possible that an encounter with the women could have taken place that no one knew about. There was some speculation that stalking could have played a part in the crime. During the AMW show the police revealed this.

"Investigators also have considered that stalking led to the women' disappearences, a theory revealed during friday's broadcast." NL March 6, 1993

I've heard two versions of the alleged confession to the location of the bodies. One comes from a much earlier poster who, as I said, appears almost certainly to have been involved in the search. He claims that NOTHING (presumably) Garrison provided regarding anything proved to have value. His credibility dropped to zero. That is, of course if this poster, was indeed who he implied he was. One would have to go back to Thread #1 to read his post. I believe he has made numerous posts here about this case and others. I attempted to make contact with him but it was not successful.

The other version I have heard is that a certain police officer, now retired, personally handled Garrison and somehow dropped the ball or didn't handle him skillfully. That implies that Garrison did have credibility.

I need to review this particular part of the crime, I know there was a split in credibility of the information by the police. Now as far as the officer I have heard this also.
I have heard Garrison "lawyered up", but I can find nothing that leads me to believe this to be the case. Does he tell the truth or is he leading the police estray? I personally think that it does not benefit him to lead them estray. He inserted himself into this case for what? He is now a suspect. He also was much more specific than Cox was.

" His status as a missing women suspect began in mid-1993, about a year after the vanishings, as he sat in Greene County jail, charged with a weapons offense." NL June 7, 1997

This to me does not make sense. If he was not a suspect before he has nothing to gain if he is lying.

Another interesting bit of information is the Webster county search was not the only place he revealed.

"Garrison, 38, told reporters in the past that he knew where the women were taken, how they died, and where they were buried. His tale included an alleged trip to Lake Springfield, and burial sites in Webster county and between here and Kansas City." NL June 7, 1992



The other factor we have to deal with is with Cox. Leaving aside Cox's credibility for a moment, is the very real effort that went into attempting to coax out of Cox the location of the remains. As I recall the officers (one now a major with the SPD) may have made up to two trips to visit with Cox in Texas but he wouldn't budge off his non-denial denial. What we are left to ponder are two letters to the N/L and a taped interview on KY3 with Cox (which I have not viewed) which strongly imply he was the best suspect they had. So far as I know, Cox has been stated to be the number #1 suspect in the case. His history is all too sordid to repeat here again but there is no good reason to summarily discount him since he "beat the rap" in Florida and walked off death row and alleged to have had had contact with Ted Bundy, the master serial murderer on death row, who, if memory serves me correctly, gave advice to the effect never to allow the bodies to be found. And when Cox was finally brought to justice he had a "kill kit" in his vehicle which implies he had evil intentions. We may never know what he has done unless at some point he decides to come clean. There is no indication he will do that.

Cox is just an unknown in my book, I do not believe he had ties to Garrison. I see his vague non-denial denying as a red herring to the game he is playing.

So we are left with Cox and Garrison; known predators, and we have a news report from 1995 which clearly states this was a case of sexual assault and not drug related. In view of what we believe we know to be the likely circumstances of the exit out of town, we can probably extrapolate that there was a connection with Rogersville and meth has been brought up time and time again although not proven, and even discounted, by the news article, which as I said, leaves no wiggle room.

I have heard some of theories about Rogersville and think that some of the research is flawed and some of the information is hearsay. I do not believe there is a drug connection directly attached to the women.

Having said all of this, it does make eminent good sense that the abductions were carried out to prevent Suzie's testimony which may have brought bigger fish into the case. Whoever they may have been would have had ample motive to prevent her testimony. If, as someone believe, this was because of a drug connection then the news article or the information provided to the news media was fabricated in order to throw off the perpetrators. That cannot be ruled out. Since none of us, to my knowledge, has seen the actual police file, we don't know where the truth lies.

In my opinion if Suzie's testimony was that troublesome, they would not have had to go to this length to keep her quiet. It would be just as easy to inrimidate her and not risk the death penalty.

If a gun were held to my head to come up with one correct answer, I would say that Cox and Garrison are somehow connected and this was indeed sexual assault which comports with the news article. That being the case, there is no police conspiracy to cover up the truth. They just can't bring the case to trial not having the physical evidence to get a conviction. Since the prosecutors in this area have been burned badly by two very high profile cases we can assume they are exercising extreme caution having only one bite at the apple.

I have one final point which I have raised previously. Where is it written that we must somehow ASSUME that either Suzie or Sherrill was or were the intended targets? Why is the assumption written in granite that Stacy was not the intended target? Certainly that does not rule out the sexual assault motive. We know very little of Stacy when all is said and done.[/quote]

I think it is entirely possible that Stacy could be the target. This could go along with the stalker theory.


The other version I have heard is that a certain police officer, now retired, personally handled Garrison and somehow dropped the ball or didn't handle him skillfully. That implies that Garrison did have credibility.

I need to review this particular part of the crime, I know there was a split in credibility of the information by the police. Now as far as the officer I have heard this also.

I have always thought that this refers to Davis allowing Garrison to escape after lowering his bond so that he could make bond and would perhaps talk to them in a "more friendly setting" than the jail house.
 
There is no known connection but recently the K.C. Star published a five part story on human trafficking. I wouldn't rule this motive out as part of the conclusion that "sexual assault" was the motive. This is the link for those interested.

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/1637831.html

This was a five part series about foreigners wanting to come to America for a better life, and do so in servitude to other foreigners already here who pay their passage. Once here they are condemed to long hours at menial jobs with little or no pay. The women are often forced into prostitution for a debt that will never be repaid. How could this be seen as leading or contributing to the conclusion by LE that the 3MW case was one of sexual assault?
 
A lot of stuff but nothing really new. This case has haunted me because it seems to be the type of crime that should have been solved. I think it was somewhat "simple" yet the perp got lucky. I have nothing new to offer but a few points that might be worth mentioning.

1) Hurricane, you have suggested that the "removal" of the women from the initial crime scene represented a "change of plan" that a sexually motivated perp found necessary when he found himself confronted with more women than he expected. I just don't see your reasoning. I am aware of many cases where a rapist enters a house and is confronted with people other than the target and deals with the situation without abducting anyone. I have never heard of a case that played out the way you suggest. It is extremely rare for a rapist, who breaks into a target's home, to abduct the target when the house itself is a suitable "rape site". (Women are far more likely to be abducted from the street, a parking lot, outside bar etc; places that are not suitable rape sites.) I have no idea what, if any statistics there are on the subject but I would venture to guess that there is a strong correlation between abduction/disappeared bodies from the victims home and a perp known to the victim.
Actually the only "triple abduction" from a home (actually a hotel room) was the Yosemite Murders, and it that case, the Perp didn't know the victims but he had close ties to the hotel where it happened.

2) It seems to me that the issue of the Suzie's "testimony" against the Grave robbers has been settled. There was no trial scheduled so I don't see under what circumstances there would be any testimony. If anyone knows otherwise, please let us know. It looks like that was just a piece of mis-information. While it wouldn't "clear" them, it just doesn’t seem that they had much of a motive.

3) Throughout the investigation, the best evidence has always been Porch Lady's sightings. The fact that the van was never found suggests that either the van came from a long distance away and no one from the Springfield area recognized it OR it never existed in the first place. It is possible that the sighting was not valid and it set the whole investigation off the rails.
 
A lot of stuff but nothing really new. This case has haunted me because it seems to be the type of crime that should have been solved. I think it was somewhat "simple" yet the perp got lucky. I have nothing new to offer but a few points that might be worth mentioning.

1) Hurricane, you have suggested that the "removal" of the women from the initial crime scene represented a "change of plan" that a sexually motivated perp found necessary when he found himself confronted with more women than he expected. I just don't see your reasoning. I am aware of many cases where a rapist enters a house and is confronted with people other than the target and deals with the situation without abducting anyone. I have never heard of a case that played out the way you suggest. It is extremely rare for a rapist, who breaks into a target's home, to abduct the target when the house itself is a suitable "rape site". (Women are far more likely to be abducted from the street, a parking lot, outside bar etc; places that are not suitable rape sites.) I have no idea what, if any statistics there are on the subject but I would venture to guess that there is a strong correlation between abduction/disappeared bodies from the victims home and a perp known to the victim.
Actually the only "triple abduction" from a home (actually a hotel room) was the Yosemite Murders, and it that case, the Perp didn't know the victims but he had close ties to the hotel where it happened.
There are numerous cases where the woman is taken from the home and never seen again. If rape was the motive we do not know because these are unsolved crimes. Yes multiple women makes this a crime that is unusual and suggests to me that it didnt start out as a triple abduction.

2) It seems to me that the issue of the Suzie's "testimony" against the Grave robbers has been settled. There was no trial scheduled so I don't see under what circumstances there would be any testimony. If anyone knows otherwise, please let us know. It looks like that was just a piece of mis-information. While it wouldn't "clear" them, it just doesn’t seem that they had much of a motive.

Well during the 48 hours interview there was something scheduled and dropped. I believe the charges were refiled at a later date.

3) Throughout the investigation, the best evidence has always been Porch Lady's sightings. The fact that the van was never found suggests that either the van came from a long distance away and no one from the Springfield area recognized it OR it never existed in the first place. It is possible that the sighting was not valid and it set the whole investigation off the rails.
Possible that a van was not used. I know another case that they debate the van use
 
After several years of research and various theorys that have evolved, and keeping with the K.I.S.S. Principle, and with the statistically proven fact that most violent crimes perpatrated upon people, are committed by people that are close to them, as opposed to total strangers..............I believe that if it can be PROVEN that Susie Streeter was going to testify agains't the Grave Robbers...and again I state, if it CAN BE PROVEN....then I would have to put the Grave Robbers and their Known Associates at the TOP of the suspect list. It just make common sense.

I agree with the part that this crime was committed by someone who knew Suzie and Sherrill. Maybe they weren't that close to them but only
knew them vaguely. Not sure I agree it was part of the grave robber thing. I just can't seem to get around to the thinking that Stacy was the target. I still think this was something planned against either Suzie, Sherrill or both, and Stacy just happened to be there. I don't know what the motive was other than sexual assault. Or, since I believe it could have been committed by someone known to the two women, something personal that we just don't know about.

This is just my opinion after reading posts and articles about the case.
 
What IF it was NOT RCC OR Garrison, but a close Neighbor that was WATCHING ? HHMMM

02-08-2010 Thread 4
What IF it was NOT RCC OR Garrison, but a close Neighbor that was WATCHING ? HHMMM (Mr. Electric)

07-22-2008 Thread 2
Maybe the girl driving was not one of the 3MW. Maybe a girl that did not like Suzanne or Stacy. may be (Mr.Electric)

Did you mean a close female neighbor who didn't like Suzanne & Stacy or did you mean an electrician who lived/worked in the neighborhood and had previously done electrical work at Sherrill's house after Sherrill moved in and so knew the layout of the house and that there were no locks on the door/window in Suzie's room and thus knew how to get in without leaving a trace?

That converted garage on East Delmar St. (Suzy's room) needed electrical work done, didn't it? Do electricians use vans? Isn't there a Mr. Electric out near Rogersville? Do their service records go back to 1992?
Would a broken globe from an electrical light be some kind of signature/taunt left by the perp that wasn't picked up on in the initial investigation?

Could a neighbor girl have carried out a triple kidnapping and murder as compared to a male electrician? Please clarify. Thank you.
 
No, I don't think a neighbor girl or any girl could carry out a triple kidnapping and murder, alone. I think there are so many maybe's and what if's regarding this case that we may never know what really happened. I also think there are some in the community that would like it to stay that way and that saddens me.
 
No, I don't think a neighbor girl or any girl could carry out a triple kidnapping and murder, alone. I think there are so many maybe's and what if's regarding this case that we may never know what really happened.
I also think there are some in the community that would like it to stay that way and that saddens me.
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I have sometimes wondered about the younger generation who were born after this happened, and new residents who moved into the area later. They may not have the interest or the fortitude to care about the resolution of a crime that happened before their time. For them it might be as if this crime isn't real or never happened because of their distance from it; like an urban legend or something.

You must live in the area. Are you speaking of such an attitude in general or one associated with those who might be suspects or otherwise close to the victims?
 
Yes, I do live in the area. When this happened it was on the the news daily.As days turned to weeks turned to months turned to years and now,NOTHING.Three people don't just disappear around here every day and not then either.

You are right about younger people and new people moving here and not familiar with the case but there are still a lot of people around who remember. I think the general attitude is they are dead, the police have given up,so lets move on. I don't think we should just move on like they,whoever they may be,want us to.

I just don't think every thing that could be done has been done.Just DIG at least and prove that theory right or wrong so we can move on!
 
Yes, I do live in the area. When this happened it was on the the news daily.As days turned to weeks turned to months turned to years and now,NOTHING.Three people don't just disappear around here every day and not then either.

You are right about younger people and new people moving here and not familiar with the case but there are still a lot of people around who remember. I think the general attitude is they are dead, the police have given up,so lets move on. I don't think we should just move on like they,whoever they may be,want us to.

I just don't think every thing that could be done has been done.Just DIG at least and prove that theory right or wrong so we can move on!


Alright...Wait a minute here, all of a sudden we're back to "Digging Up the Cox Parking Garage" again.

First of all, you have to stop and really think about the FACT that the parking garage theory was the product of one man's "Psycic Vision".

Second, the man who scanned the parking garage clearly said that the anomoly that he was detecting was similiar to old graves, and TREEs and Root Systems...."Something to that effect".

Third, have you really....and I mean really....looked at the Web Site where I'm sure you read about the "Parking Garage" theory. No offence, but it's a little "Out There"...if you know what I mean! I mean please, look at the part in which the lady trys to explain that in one of the pictures she sees a "Police Utility Belt Rig"...you know, the belt system that police wear that holds their equipment and weapon. Give me a Break! Thats all I have to say about that.

Now, I will agree with one thing. I would definatly like to see them do a "Core Sample" drill. At least that would put the issue to rest....hopefully....ONCE AND FOR ALL!
 
Alright...Wait a minute here, all of a sudden we're back to "Digging Up the Cox Parking Garage" again.

First of all, you have to stop and really think about the FACT that the parking garage theory was the product of one man's "Psycic Vision".

Second, the man who scanned the parking garage clearly said that the anomoly that he was detecting was similiar to old graves, and TREEs and Root Systems...."Something to that effect".

Third, have you really....and I mean really....looked at the Web Site where I'm sure you read about the "Parking Garage" theory. No offence, but it's a little "Out There"...if you know what I mean! I mean please, look at the part in which the lady trys to explain that in one of the pictures she sees a "Police Utility Belt Rig"...you know, the belt system that police wear that holds their equipment and weapon. Give me a Break! Thats all I have to say about that.

Now, I will agree with one thing. I would definatly like to see them do a "Core Sample" drill. At least that would put the issue to rest....hopefully....ONCE AND FOR ALL!

Well clearly what is needed concerning the parking garage is some line of circumstantial evidence that would place the 3MW there. That has never been developed. Rumor and the GPR scan alone are not convincing enough in my opinion. Following are some comments and answers to questions by Norland taken from the GPR scan video as seen on Youtube. The time counter marks and his statements may not be exact quotes but close enough that you won’t have any trouble finding his comment for yourself in the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8DKyRK27pM&feature=player_embedded

~0.24 mark: talking about the soil Norland says whatever it is has….”set in it long enough that the salts from the soils are starting to migrate into whatever it is.”

~2:20 mark: He says that what he is seeing is….”very similar to what we see when we are over old graves.”

~2:25 mark: He adds….”the other anomaly that can show up similar to that is tree roots.”

~3:00 mark: Speaking of older graves, Norland says….”what we see over time the bones will absorb salts from the soil.”

~4:00 mark: When Kathee asks “when you say old graves?” Norland cuts her off and answers….”1740’s to 1790’s.”

~4:30 mark: When Kathee tries to ask, “How old do you think?” he again cuts her off and answers….”No, there has been enough time in there that reflectors in places are starting to get similar to the soil. So it’s not recent.”

~5:10 mark: Norland says….”It could be wood that’s soaking up the salts.”


From his comments alone I find it hard to believe that this anomaly could be 12-15 yr old graves.
 
I wish our "Psycic Friends" would go away somewhere, put their noggins, or whatever they use, together and actually find some real bodies. Until they do, they should stay out of these cases. Law enforcement, the media and the discussion groups should ingnore them until they deliver the goods. They put law enforcement in situations where they must waste resources on wild goose chases in order to Cover ther own Arses.
 


Please don't think that we are talking about you. None of this is really directed at you. For me and probably everyone else that posts on the 3MW forum, it is directed at the whole "Parking Garage Theory" in general, and the ever increasingly bizarre web site that is associated with it.

I think that most people that have seriously devoted time to studing the details and theorys of this case would agree that there are a lot more plausable theorys than the parking garage.

I think that you were really just trying to say the same thing that everyone else here has.....which is:

"Someone please core sample the parking garage area in question, and either prove or put this theory to rest once and for all"

I personally think that at this point police probably have an idea what probably happened to the women. They may even have some legitimate suspects. I think that they just don't have enough "HARD EVIDENCE" to bring anyone to trial.

Just my personal opinion.
 
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