The state Rests in The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #11

[jevipo74]

She did everything she could -- but she couldn't grow a new hymen.

Maybe her rage increased when she realized not only was she not "marriage material", she wasn't even "Cancun material".

LOL, but ewwwww!

 

[KMouse]

Alot of people mention that TA kept talking to JA even after the breakout, and it's assumed he was leading her on. Is there any facts that support that? I think that he may have been trying to just get rid of her and talked to her to let her down gently, or assumed they could just be friends. I know he had sex w/ her that last night, but, IMO, she just showed up unexpectedly and he decided to just go for it - why not? She was ready and willing and he was available. I think he probably spent alot of time talking and trying to get rid of her. IMO

I think TA was possibly nice to a fault. Him and Jodi had "the talk" where they broke up and he would have had no idea that she would stalk him, slash his tires and keep showing up unexpectedly.

People like her don't take a hint. Don't take no for an answer and do not go away even when told. It wears a person down. With Jodi throwing herself at Travis I can see how they were broken up but still remained in contact.

 

[katiecoolady]

What you said gave me chills.... Maybe she dyed her hair back to brown so that SHE wouldnt recognise herself... in her mind.. she became someone else...it was 'someone else' who committed the crime.

Ya know...I think you're on to something here. Her "dark passenger".

 

[Bravo]

As to the question of why we have heard so little of Jodi's past. I wonder if we will hear lots. After a Conviction (which i believe we will see). I mean if i had known her or related there is no way i would say anything until she was tucked away forever. I would value my life :what: I'm sure there is much to learn. Not too many Sociopaths go thru life without making life miserable for others. With some that's all they do. Some go on to kill. MOO

 

[popsicle]

She did everything she could -- but she couldn't grow a new hymen.

Maybe her rage increased when she realized not only was she not "marriage material", she wasn't even "Cancun material".

ouch!

 

[KMouse]

It would be a gold mine to have those journals of his that were stolen...

They are somewhere....I can't see her trashing them.

But where.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Hi Sleuthers,
Here is a pg with some extra segments of the 48Hrs and other shows.

http://www.cbsnews.com/1770-5_162-0.html?query=JODI+ARIAS&tag=srch&searchtype=cbsSearch

 

[PASA]

Welcome to Websleuths Lady Edith! Great post, btw.

 

[Angelo]

Isn't it funny that hearing "Koolaid stains" I think most of our minds automatically go to a red color. But it could have been GREEN koolaid for all we know. More information please!

I thought the same thing so I googled Kool Aid stains. Interesting to see the images that are shown for that phrase.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Alot of people mention that TA kept talking to JA even after the breakout, and it's assumed he was leading her on. Is there any facts that support that? I think that he may have been trying to just get rid of her and talked to her to let her down gently, or assumed they could just be friends. I know he had sex w/ her that last night, but, IMO, she just showed up unexpectedly and he decided to just go for it - why not? She was ready and willing and he was available. I think he probably spent alot of time talking and trying to get rid of her. IMO

IIRC, TA's friends acknowledged that the sexual relationship continued up until just a couple of months before the murder. And there were some texts from TA to JA that were definitely sexual in nature.

But by all accounts, he had told JA there was no future for them as a couple. So JA wasn't being lied to about that. She knew he only had sexual feelings for her.

 

[Jax49]

It would be a gold mine to have those journals of his that were stolen...

Wanta bet he didn't lie in them like JA did. MOOOOOOOOOO

 

[lil_buddy]

I know a girl who scared me and I think was a psychopath. She latched on to guys and would not let them go. She would call, show up at their houses at all hours of the night, and literally just force herself on to the one she was involved with at the time. I swear this one guy just got so tired of trying to get rid of her, that he just gave up and stayed with her. I don't talk to her anymore (Thank God), so I'm not sure what happened. By the way, I met her through a neighbor and before I knew it, she was coming over my house all the time. If I left it unlocked she'd walk in. If I didn't answer, she'd sit out front in her car and call me until I finally had to let her in. She also conned me out of money every time she came by, her kids need milk, she needed cigs,she needed gas, it goes on and on and on. People like that are persistant and don't give up until they get what they want.

With crazy people you have to be SUPER-VIGALENT about boundaries.
If you told that women, "Do not ever come back to my home. If you do, I will contact the police and get a restraining order" I bet she would never come back.

 

[jevipo74]

I think TA was possibly nice to a fault. Him and Jodi had "the talk" where they broke up and he would have had no idea that she would stalk him, slash his tires and keep showing up unexpectedly.

People like her don't take a hint. Don't take no for an answer and do not go away even when told. It wears a person down. With Jodi throwing herself at Travis I can see how they were broken up but still remained in contact.

I just read what you wrote about not taking a hint and it reminded me of what one TA's friends said during an interview. Apparently, JA went to the house of one of TA's friends to find out why they didn't like her. They broke it down for her and then asked her to leave. Instead, JA sat down at the kitchen table silently for 15 minutes and TA's friend was upset that she wouldn't leave. I don't remember which friend it was, but he was on NG.

 

[bobloblaw]

I know he had sex w/ her that last night,

There's no proof they had sex that night.

 

[Laceybug]

Ya know...I think you're on to something here. Her "dark passenger".

"The woman with the knife" that she talked about in her interrogation...

 

[katiecoolady]

I can speak somewhat to being on the receiving end (recently) of someone's unwanted attention. Professionally a married man reached out to me for some kind of "networking". It was all fine and good until he was emailing me constantly, never wearing a wedding ring around me, never speaking in terms of "we" or "our house". At first I didn't even know if he was married (I had zero interest in him as other than a professional connection so it wasn't something I was concerned about initially, if he was married or not). After about 2 weeks of a little too much attention for my comfort I inquired if he was married, assuming he was and let him know I was not comfortable with the amt. and type of attention I was receiving. His response was "yes I am married, it's a very low energy area of my life and not one I talk about often". He then escalated even more his daily emails and at one point calling me his best friend". It all got too much for me and I told him I wouldn't be communicating with him anymore on any level (which is only slightly weird as I will cross paths with him professionally at times). I very directly said I found his behavior disrespectful to his wife and clearly there was some kind of lack there but I wasn't interested being the person he tried to find relief from that with.

There was ZERO in me that was ever interested in him romantically or at that point, even friendship as I was disgusted at that point of his disrespect of his wife. I found myself being kind of blunt and mean (for me) in setting this boundary.

Yet he kept popping up in my emails for about 6 weeks with these clueless emails like "I want to hear how your Dad and brother are doing (who he'd never met but I'd been caring for)". "I'm hoping you have a wonderful Christmas...please let me know how things are going!". It was creepy as he was acting like I was somehow still in contact with him and had not set that boundary.

As I have read Gavin DeBecker and know that the only remedy is to ignore ignore ignore, I did that for six weeks. But after about 4 attempts at contact I now got pissed (and a little afraid) and wrote him one last time VERY clear, VERY concise and VERY detached not asking but telling him he would not be contacting me again on any level and that I found his behavior entirely disrespectful.

What i got back? "Thank you so much. Understood and respected".

And then a week or so later I took my family to a concert that I had once mentioned to him I went to every year, walked in and there he was walking toward the door at the exact moment we were (late) with this creepy smile. I had no doubt he'd been standing at the door waiting for me. I rushed in to the concert hall completely ignoring him.

Now this guy is a VERY successful (multi millionaire) who dabbles in my line of work as a "hobby" and...may I add, devout MORMON. (not bashing the Mormon faith whatsoever, just finding the link here interesting).

I was kind of embarrassed I let it go on as long as I did but it took a few weeks to realize just how strange it all was and extract myself. So I can on some level understand how it was confusing and awkward for Travis and let's face it, what red blooded 30 year old man is going to turn away "easy" sex? I mean...

 

[KMouse]

With crazy people you have to be SUPER-VIGALENT about boundaries.
If you told that women, "Do not ever come back to my home. If you do, I will contact the police and get a restraining order" I bet she would never come back.

But I bet her online stalking would continue.

But yes, I do agree fully with what you said.

Communicating with people like her, arguing with people like her only fuels them.

 

[Quester]

Re: Kool-Aid stains:

http://www.apexcarpets.com/stainremoval.html

Kool-Aid stains can be the death of a carpet, but not if you use “Red Relief.”
This unique treatment converts the stain into crystals, which are then easily extractable.

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Kool-Aid colors:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3439/3915876764_41642f63da.jpg

 

[popsicle]

Re: Kool-Aid stains:

http://www.apexcarpets.com/stainremoval.html

Kool-Aid stains can be the death of a carpet, but not if you use “Red Relief.”
This unique treatment converts the stain into crystals, which are then easily extractable.

* * *

Kool-Aid colors:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3439/3915876764_41642f63da.jpg

A little o/t but look at the 2nd carpet photo. The person standing there has one sock on and one sock off. :floorlaugh:

 

[Bravo]

I dont believe Jodi would have ever walked away from Travis. I also wonder if he was the only one who ever ended a relationship with her. Was it typically her when she grew bored or realized there was nothing more to gain for a man? Travis was everything Jodi wasn't. If she couldn't have him nobody would and how dare he reject her. IMO