The state Rests in The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #11

[katiecoolady]

They are somewhere....I can't see her trashing them.

But where.

But I bet her online stalking would continue.

But yes, I do agree fully with what you said.

Communicating with people like her, arguing with people like her only fuels them.

ANY attention fuels them. Ugh.

 

[lil_buddy]

But I bet her online stalking would continue.

But yes, I do agree fully with what you said.

Communicating with people like her, arguing with people like her only fuels them.

This brings me to another question...
Did JA really have full access to all TA's email & social networking accounts?
His voice mail?
His ATM pin? His garage code? And TA was aware of this?

I don't know if this is true or something just made up by JA.
Why wouldn't he change his passwords?
Why would you let your psycho EX-gf have access to these things?

Makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

[Quester]

A little o/t but look at the 2nd carpet photo. The person standing there has one sock on and one sock off. :floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh: Jodi ... is that you in the photo? :floorlaugh:

 

[peedoffinny]

With crazy people you have to be SUPER-VIGALENT about boundaries.
If you told that women, "Do not ever come back to my home. If you do, I will contact the police and get a restraining order" I bet she would never come back.

Thanks. I just have such a hard time confronting people. She did call me at work and I told her I'm just too busy to take time for friends right now (lame I know). She wanted my cell phone number and I just cut her off and said I was in a meeting. I am a chicken!

 

[Laceybug]

I dont believe Jodi would have ever walked away from Travis. I also wonder if he was the only one who ever ended a relationship with her. Was it typically her when she grew bored or realized there was nothing more to gain for a man? Travis was everything Jodi wasn't. If she couldn't have him nobody would and how dare he reject her. IMO

I was playing the 48 hours in the back ground... Heard JA talk about how TA was suppose to go out and see her at the end of May....BUT he didnt go. (Proof that he no longer wanted to see her?) A week later... SHE goes to see him... and he ends up dead. Maureen Mahar says:" But when Travis postponed his trip... Jodi planned a trip of her own!" Imagine how furious she was when he didnt show... How dare he stand her up!! *chills*

 

[Laceybug]

I can speak somewhat to being on the receiving end (recently) of someone's unwanted attention. Professionally a married man reached out to me for some kind of "networking". It was all fine and good until he was emailing me constantly, never wearing a wedding ring around me, never speaking in terms of "we" or "our house". At first I didn't even know if he was married (I had zero interest in him as other than a professional connection so it wasn't something I was concerned about initially, if he was married or not). After about 2 weeks of a little too much attention for my comfort I inquired if he was married, assuming he was and let him know I was not comfortable with the amt. and type of attention I was receiving. His response was "yes I am married, it's a very low energy area of my life and not one I talk about often". He then escalated even more his daily emails and at one point calling me his best friend". It all got too much for me and I told him I wouldn't be communicating with him anymore on any level (which is only slightly weird as I will cross paths with him professionally at times). I very directly said I found his behavior disrespectful to his wife and clearly there was some kind of lack there but I wasn't interested being the person he tried to find relief from that with.

There was ZERO in me that was ever interested in him romantically or at that point, even friendship as I was disgusted at that point of his disrespect of his wife. I found myself being kind of blunt and mean (for me) in setting this boundary.

Yet he kept popping up in my emails for about 6 weeks with these clueless emails like "I want to hear how your Dad and brother are doing (who he'd never met but I'd been caring for)". "I'm hoping you have a wonderful Christmas...please let me know how things are going!". It was creepy as he was acting like I was somehow still in contact with him and had not set that boundary.

As I have read Gavin DeBecker and know that the only remedy is to ignore ignore ignore, I did that for six weeks. But after about 4 attempts at contact I now got pissed (and a little afraid) and wrote him one last time VERY clear, VERY concise and VERY detached not asking but telling him he would not be contacting me again on any level and that I found his behavior entirely disrespectful.

What i got back? "Thank you so much. Understood and respected".

And then a week or so later I took my family to a concert that I had once mentioned to him I went to every year, walked in and there he was walking toward the door at the exact moment we were (late) with this creepy smile. I had no doubt he'd been standing at the door waiting for me. I rushed in to the concert hall completely ignoring him.

Now this guy is a VERY successful (multi millionaire) who dabbles in my line of work as a "hobby" and...may I add, devout MORMON. (not bashing the Mormon faith whatsoever, just finding the link here interesting).

I was kind of embarrassed I let it go on as long as I did but it took a few weeks to realize just how strange it all was and extract myself. So I can on some level understand how it was confusing and awkward for Travis and let's face it, what red blooded 30 year old man is going to turn away "easy" sex? I mean...

I had a Stalker on facebook... He was convinced that God had ordained us to be together... He somehow found out where I work and when I blocked him and deactivated my facebook (because of his stalking) he sent me a letter to my work and called several times leaving messages on the ans machine. It was so creepy! He is an older man and ex police force so I figured he used the system at the PD to get my info... but talked to a friend who is a dispatcher and he said you cant get work info on the system at the PD... that freaked me out... I was furious when he sent me mail... So I got back on facebook (about a month later) I unblocked him and sent him an angry message about how rude it was for him to send me mail and leave msgs at my work. I wasn't really sure how to handle it... so I felt confronting him would show him that I wasn't scared of him. He continued to send me msgs on facebook professing his love for me, talking about how he cares about me and my family and friends... OMG... I was furious again.. so I deactivated my account AGAIN... and this time he sent a letter to my HOUSE!! At this point I contacted the police dept and asked what I could do... unfortunately there was nothing I could do... Uggghh! Again I got back on facebook and sent him a message. I told him this time if it continued I would let everyone I knew on facebook and the internet know what kind of horrible person he was. I threatened to contact the police dept he was retired from. It stopped for a while... I have him blocked but I'm convinced he views my page from a fake page or uses someone elses page to view. I'm not on facebook much anymore because of him. I havent received any more mail from him. Im hoping he has moved on to another interest... Stalkers are NUTS and no fun!

 

[Quester]

I was playing the 48 hours in the back ground... Heard JA talk about how TA was suppose to go out and see her at the end of May....BUT he didnt go. (Proof that he no longer wanted to see her?) A week later... SHE goes to see him... and he ends up dead. Maureen Mahar says:" But when Travis postponed his trip... Jodi planned a trip of her own!" Imagine how furious she was when he didnt show... How dare he stand her up!! *chills*

BBM - I agree!

In that 48 Hours piece [Thank you, David_Lohr], the statement made by JA that was showcased was:

“It was hard to tell Travis no.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HelfB6s-Raw&feature=youtu.be
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I think what JA really meant and the piece implied was it was hard to tell JA “no” or JA did not accept “no” answers from TA.

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Same theme:

ARIAS: I don't – I wouldn't use obsession. I would say – I don't know. I think that when more evidence comes out, it'll be very telling that it was a two-way street.

And Travis was a wonderful person, but he was also a very persuasive and he was hard to say no to. And it was hard – you know, he wouldn't allow me to not answer his text message. If I didn't respond, he would keep calling and keep calling until I did. And so to me, that wasn't obsessive behavior on his part, it was just – I took it as a compliment. He wanted to talk to me, OK, that's great.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you obsessed with him? Those are the allegations they made.

ARIAS: No.
1/4/13: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1301/04/ng.01.html
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Holy moly! She's quite a piece of work!

 

[Curious Me]

:floorlaugh: Jodi ... is that you in the photo? :floorlaugh:

:seeya: Good one!

 

[PASA]

I'm assuming none of her CVS,Walmart receipts had hair color on them...?? She would have had to purchase it and take it along for her joy ride. Along with a gun, a knife, whatever else a killer makes for her little "murder kit". :furious:

PS I recently dyed someone's hair with one of the "foam" ones and managed to make a total mess of that too. But that's just me.

I never saw what was bought, just the names like McDonald's, Starbucks, CVS, Walmart, and various gas stations. Oh, and the bank deposits.

Wish I could find copies of what she bought.

 

[LadyEdith]

As I have read Gavin DeBecker and know that the only remedy is to ignore ignore ignore,

THIS is why Travis was not successful in breaking up with Jodi. Unfortunately, any attention is attention, and constitutes a "relationship" in the pursuer's eyes. As long as Travis continued to talk to Jodi or see her for any reason, in Jodi's mind they were in a "relationship".

Something else that makes me squirm, Jodi said they "both" had trust issues. Jodi broke trust by hacking into his accounts, stole his diaries, crawling in his dog door, etc. When Travis found out he was furious and lost trust in her---She doesn't "trust" him, so trespasses his personal boundaries, he doesn't "trust" her, BECAUSE trespassed his boundaries. In her mind, they BOTH have trust issues. She paints them with the same brush, but his were brought on by her inappropriate behavior.


As Katiecoolady noted, with certain "types" the only workable method is "NO CONTACT". It is a concept, theory, and practice used by people who are attempting to end relationships that won't end. Imaginary relationships (like katiecoolady's "friend") or real relationships. I've read a lot about it in relation to Domestic Violence. As long as there is ANY communication to the pursuer from the pursued, the pursuer feels successful. So angry texts, threats, name-calling, explanations, whatever, as long as pursued acknowledges the pursuer, the pursuer considers they are "having a relationship" with the pursued.

Of course, to normal people, "no thanks" means "no thanks", and nothing further is needed. This should be a warning to us all. Someone who cannot hear "no" has big, deep, problems and if our "no thank you's" are ignored, we need to call in reinforcements.

Katiecoolady, how were you eventually successful with this guy?

 

[danzn16]

Hi All, I'm new here. I first saw the case on Dr. Drew and then found websleuths as I was looking for more information on the case. I've probably read 40% of the trial thread. Since we are in delay until the end of the month, I can catch up. Now that my account is set up I can add my two cents. Below I address the psychological motivations I see in the case (MOO).

My theory for MOTIVE lies in the rejection she experienced from Travis. Jodi did everything in her power to BECOME the woman of Travis' dreams, and when that was not successful in winning his love, she felt sufficiently destroyed to destroy him. Her personal devastation was illustrated by the bloody mess she made of Travis and his life.

When she joined his church AND became his sex partner--conflicting behaviors in Travis' mind. She pretty much guaranteed her own rejection. Travis could not reconcile both those urges in himself ("I want to experience my sex drive fulfilled/I want to exemplify the values of my church). Her ability to have unrepressed sex AND espouse Mormonism without experiencing the conflict Travis did points to her moral ambiguity, and the lack of serious commitment she had for his ("their") religion.

From her description of their break up (due to "BOTH" of their trust issues--her statement), her inability to observe appropriate boundaries was established quite early in their relationship BEFORE any break up. Their relationship in name was "over" in 5 months time. In those short five months they went from an "in love" or "in lust" state, developed a very involved sexual relationship, (she) developed (or already had) a chronic insecurity she could not ignore, that led to her trespassing all of the boundaries of healthy relationships. Hacking multiple accounts is never ok. There is no justification for it. An emotionally normal person breaks up with someone they are chronically suspicious of, it is a very different kind of person who makes it their life's work to infiltrate the most private areas of another persons psyche (stealing journals) and life. These disrespectful and boundary-trespassing behaviors led to arguments and bad feel ings and a "break up". For all of this to happen in five short months shows how intense the relationship was. Most couples are in the "in love" period for 9, 12, or 18 months before ugly or uncomfortable things start to happen. That's when the "work" of the relationship begins.


No matter what is reported by JA (unfortunately, we only get her take on their relationship), JA and TA continued their relationship until the day he was murdered. Although Travis wanted to "break up" with in June of 2007, he didn't do "breaking up" behavior. His intention was to break-up, but his behavior didn't match his intentions. He continued to talk to her, see her, have sex with her, and plan trips with her. All of these behaviors gave Jodi hope that she was still a candidate for Travis' life partner.

Clearly, Jodi was still doing the "stalking" behavior of hacking into Travis' accounts even after Travis' death. In the interview with Flores she talks with animation of their 1000 places to see project, and how he was planning to come to California at the end of 2008 to see the Oregon coast. When she became aware that Travis was planning ANOTHER trip with someone else (Cancun), and it was on the 1000 list. This was more behavior that really did support a "breaking up" intention. Also, Travis very likely canceled the trip to the Oregon coast (it isn't likely he would be off again as soon as he was back from Cancun). My guess is that Jodi's plan to destroy Travis began when she received the news that he was planning the trip to Cancun with another woman. I see it as confirmation that he was willing to have sex with her (as long as she was willing to provide it) but was not willing to share the most special moments of his life with her. She was not Cancun material---this knowledge was unbearable to Jodi.

In discussing the manner of Travis' murder, there are people who think the messy overkill was not planned. I disagree with this. I think everything Jodi did was purposeful. She stabbed him in the heart, slit his throat and shot him because she was enraged by his rejection. When she says "if I were going to kill him I would shoot him, t least it would be humane". But that is not what she did because she did not want it to be humane. She was not trying to do it quick and neat. She was fully prepared to literally slaughter, and that is exactly what she did.

Something more I've noticed is the total lack of anxiety, anguish, tension, or fear in any photo or video of her. Her face is extraordinarily youthful and unlined---as if the normal anxieties of humanness do not wash over her face. It is an utterly serene countenance. I do think she is without conscience or empathy. I do not know the differentiation of antisocial, psychopath, sociopath, etc., but she appears utterly, utterly without the normal twitchiness, fidgetiness and expression of most people.

I'm excited to talk more about evidence, etc. but I wanted to get on the board with my observations and thoughts thus far.


Oh, one more thing. I think the BRAIDED pigtails are not an accident but an attempt to keep her hair contained for what was coming.

Wow. You are such an asset here at WS. Welcome and thanks for the post!

 

[PASA]

I thought the same thing so I googled Kool Aid stains. Interesting to see the images that are shown for that phrase.

Interesting. Every stain photo that showed up was red.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Hi All, I'm new here. I first saw the case on Dr. Drew and then found websleuths as I was looking for more information on the case. I've probably read 40% of the trial thread. Since we are in delay until the end of the month, I can catch up. Now that my account is set up I can add my two cents. Below I address the psychological motivations I see in the case (MOO).

My theory for MOTIVE lies in the rejection she experienced from Travis. Jodi did everything in her power to BECOME the woman of Travis' dreams, and when that was not successful in winning his love, she felt sufficiently destroyed to destroy him. Her personal devastation was illustrated by the bloody mess she made of Travis and his life.

When she joined his church AND became his sex partner--conflicting behaviors in Travis' mind. She pretty much guaranteed her own rejection. Travis could not reconcile both those urges in himself ("I want to experience my sex drive fulfilled/I want to exemplify the values of my church). Her ability to have unrepressed sex AND espouse Mormonism without experiencing the conflict Travis did points to her moral ambiguity, and the lack of serious commitment she had for his ("their") religion.

From her description of their break up (due to "BOTH" of their trust issues--her statement), her inability to observe appropriate boundaries was established quite early in their relationship BEFORE any break up. Their relationship in name was "over" in 5 months time. In those short five months they went from an "in love" or "in lust" state, developed a very involved sexual relationship, (she) developed (or already had) a chronic insecurity she could not ignore, that led to her trespassing all of the boundaries of healthy relationships. Hacking multiple accounts is never ok. There is no justification for it. An emotionally normal person breaks up with someone they are chronically suspicious of, it is a very different kind of person who makes it their life's work to infiltrate the most private areas of another persons psyche (stealing journals) and life. These disrespectful and boundary-trespassing behaviors led to arguments and bad feel ings and a "break up". For all of this to happen in five short months shows how intense the relationship was. Most couples are in the "in love" period for 9, 12, or 18 months before ugly or uncomfortable things start to happen. That's when the "work" of the relationship begins.


No matter what is reported by JA (unfortunately, we only get her take on their relationship), JA and TA continued their relationship until the day he was murdered. Although Travis wanted to "break up" with in June of 2007, he didn't do "breaking up" behavior. His intention was to break-up, but his behavior didn't match his intentions. He continued to talk to her, see her, have sex with her, and plan trips with her. All of these behaviors gave Jodi hope that she was still a candidate for Travis' life partner.

Clearly, Jodi was still doing the "stalking" behavior of hacking into Travis' accounts even after Travis' death. In the interview with Flores she talks with animation of their 1000 places to see project, and how he was planning to come to California at the end of 2008 to see the Oregon coast. When she became aware that Travis was planning ANOTHER trip with someone else (Cancun), and it was on the 1000 list. This was more behavior that really did support a "breaking up" intention. Also, Travis very likely canceled the trip to the Oregon coast (it isn't likely he would be off again as soon as he was back from Cancun). My guess is that Jodi's plan to destroy Travis began when she received the news that he was planning the trip to Cancun with another woman. I see it as confirmation that he was willing to have sex with her (as long as she was willing to provide it) but was not willing to share the most special moments of his life with her. She was not Cancun material---this knowledge was unbearable to Jodi.

In discussing the manner of Travis' murder, there are people who think the messy overkill was not planned. I disagree with this. I think everything Jodi did was purposeful. She stabbed him in the heart, slit his throat and shot him because she was enraged by his rejection. When she says "if I were going to kill him I would shoot him, t least it would be humane". But that is not what she did because she did not want it to be humane. She was not trying to do it quick and neat. She was fully prepared to literally slaughter, and that is exactly what she did.

Something more I've noticed is the total lack of anxiety, anguish, tension, or fear in any photo or video of her. Her face is extraordinarily youthful and unlined---as if the normal anxieties of humanness do not wash over her face. It is an utterly serene countenance. I do think she is without conscience or empathy. I do not know the differentiation of antisocial, psychopath, sociopath, etc., but she appears utterly, utterly without the normal twitchiness, fidgetiness and expression of most people.

I'm excited to talk more about evidence, etc. but I wanted to get on the board with my observations and thoughts thus far.


Oh, one more thing. I think the BRAIDED pigtails are not an accident but an attempt to keep her hair contained for what was coming.

:wagon: HELLO and WELCOME !

:goodpost::goodpost: Great First Post !

:seeya:

 

[Chester_from_THM]

Great post, Lady Edith! I completely agree with your observations.

Respectfully snipped to comment on this piece:

Something more I've noticed is the total lack of anxiety, anguish, tension, or fear in any photo or video of her. Her face is extraordinarily youthful and unlined---as if the normal anxieties of humanness do not wash over her face. It is an utterly serene countenance. I do think she is without conscience or empathy. I do not know the differentiation of antisocial, psychopath, sociopath, etc., but she appears utterly, utterly without the normal twitchiness, fidgetiness and expression of most people.

This! If this weren't such a heinous crime, it would be unintentionally hilarious how out of touch she is emotionally. When she started telling the new 'ninja' story to the detective, at one point he asks about the supposed attacker's demeanor. She says the attacker (I think it was the female) was being very stern with her. Rrrriiiiggggghhhhtt. Someone threatens to kill you with a knife or gun to your head, your boyfriend has been shot already, and your impression is what you might equate to a parent's reaction to a child acting up.

She seems to have no idea how 'normal' people react to situations. It is tough to fake emotions when you don't actually experience them. People sense emotional fakiness, even if they can't articulate what exactly is off. Nothing fazes her, and that even, monotonal, little good girl voice never shows a bit of stress or fear or hurt or anger, just nothing.

 

[danzn16]

I thought the same thing so I googled Kool Aid stains. Interesting to see the images that are shown for that phrase.

Just did the same. They were all red! Bright red at that.

 

[katiecoolady]

THIS is why Travis was not successful in breaking up with Jodi. Unfortunately, any attention is attention, and constitutes a "relationship" in the pursuer's eyes. As long as Travis continued to talk to Jodi or see her for any reason, in Jodi's mind they were in a "relationship".

Something else that makes me squirm, Jodi said they "both" had trust issues. Jodi broke trust by hacking into his accounts, stole his diaries, crawling in his dog door, etc. When Travis found out he was furious and lost trust in her---She doesn't "trust" him, so trespasses his personal boundaries, he doesn't "trust" her, BECAUSE trespassed his boundaries. In her mind, they BOTH have trust issues. She paints them with the same brush, but his were brought on by her inappropriate behavior.


As Katiecoolady noted, with certain "types" the only workable method is "NO CONTACT". It is a concept, theory, and practice used by people who are attempting to end relationships that won't end. Imaginary relationships (like katiecoolady's "friend") or real relationships. I've read a lot about it in relation to Domestic Violence. As long as there is ANY communication to the pursuer from the pursued, the pursuer feels successful. So angry texts, threats, name-calling, explanations, whatever, as long as pursued acknowledges the pursuer, the pursuer considers they are "having a relationship" with the pursued.

Of course, to normal people, "no thanks" means "no thanks", and nothing further is needed. This should be a warning to us all. Someone who cannot hear "no" has big, deep, problems and if our "no thank you's" are ignored, we need to call in reinforcements.

Katiecoolady, how were you eventually successful with this guy?

First of all, I love your posts, love how you think. I hope you keep posting. Delving in to the personality dynamics is what is most interesting to me.

Well, the last contact was seeing him at the concert then I've heard nothing from then. I'm on a teaching team for a course in Feb that he'd signed up for months ago so if he's still registered and goes, the course will be very large and I will just continue ignoring him. I've told my associates about him so I will have backup.

The email he wrote me was , like a preteen, using an excuse to try and get me to reply...asking me for information about the course. As it was the 4th unresponded contact in 6 weeks and I am a Scorpio () I just got mad and territorial I guess and looked back at the exact wording of my final email to him and found it far too soft. DeBecker says give one very clear instructive demand for no contact then GO IN TO IT (no contact as you say). I didn't think my prior email was strong enough so I wrote him a VERY strong instruction, did not even address the request for info (it was all bs, he had received registration instructions and didn't need MY info) and just told him there would be no further contact on any level. Then I get the "thank you so much" response. I figured he was thanking me for finally replying to him. CREEP.

Then he showed up at the concert with his creepy smile (this guy has a non profit organization in the health and healing field and fancies himself a leader of sorts in the healing realm so his creepiness is kind of masked with all of that do-gooderness). I literally bolted from my family and rushed in the door to avoid "colliding" with him at the entry way and my Dad sat down later and was like "what was THAT about?" and I said "oh that was ****" (he knew the story) and my Psychologist Dad burst out laughing saying "oh the drama!". It was actually hilarious at the time. I glanced around briefly just to survey where he was sitting and he was across the room, sitting on the edge of his seat turned facing us and staring with his creepy bug eyed smile. I never looked back.

That's the last contact there has been. So I don't feel afraid or anything anymore. He seems to have backed off but I will still ignore him and I frankly don't even feel the need to be cordial to him. Indifference is the only way to go.

 

[Linda7NJ]

The witness from Budget Rent A Car did testify that the floor mats were missing when she returned the car. (I'm assuming they were tossed, along with the weapons and bloody clothes.) Her clothing was also likely quite wet if the shower was running the entire duration of the murder--and I think it was--so it is possible that bloody water droplets could have also left stains that resembled Koolaid. (I also believe it possible that the stains came from a temporary hair dye.)

How I wish the witness, when asked what color the stains on the seats were had answered in a REAL color, not just "Koolaid." Koolaid, as we know, comes in all kinds of colors/flavors. A real color would have been a more helpful answer.

IMO blood dries on fabric and turns a brownish color doesn't it?


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[katiecoolady]

I had a Stalker on facebook... He was convinced that God had ordained us to be together... He somehow found out where I work and when I blocked him and deactivated my facebook (because of his stalking) he sent me a letter to my work and called several times leaving messages on the ans machine. It was so creepy! He is an older man and ex police force so I figured he used the system at the PD to get my info... but talked to a friend who is a dispatcher and he said you cant get work info on the system at the PD... that freaked me out... I was furious when he sent me mail... So I got back on facebook (about a month later) I unblocked him and sent him an angry message about how rude it was for him to send me mail and leave msgs at my work. I wasn't really sure how to handle it... so I felt confronting him would show him that I wasn't scared of him. He continued to send me msgs on facebook professing his love for me, talking about how he cares about me and my family and friends... OMG... I was furious again.. so I deactivated my account AGAIN... and this time he sent a letter to my HOUSE!! At this point I contacted the police dept and asked what I could do... unfortunately there was nothing I could do... Uggghh! Again I got back on facebook and sent him a message. I told him this time if it continued I would let everyone I knew on facebook and the internet know what kind of horrible person he was. I threatened to contact the police dept he was retired from. It stopped for a while... I have him blocked but I'm convinced he views my page from a fake page or uses someone elses page to view. I'm not on facebook much anymore because of him. I havent received any more mail from him. Im hoping he has moved on to another interest... Stalkers are NUTS and no fun!

See? When someone is sort of "hiding" behind religion or in your case law enforcement , etc. it's hard to sort all of this out. Your situation sounds far scarier than mine. I was more fixated on how disrespectful he was being toward his wife trying to bond with me in the ways he was. It was just so inappropriate and I let him know. He did admit it and apologize sort of..but still was clueless. It's a weird dynamic but dang this guy got you off Facebook..that in itself should be a crime! :jail:

 

[Linda7NJ]

How tiring it must have been for her to constantly put up a fasade? I look at the pictures of TA's house... and the pictures of her room... and the contrast is just wow... her accommodations were so meager.. and his so much. Who is the real Jodi? Will we ever know?

IMO there is no real Jodi, she's an empty shell that uses and mimics those around her to get her needs met.


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[Laceybug]

BBM - I agree!

In that 48 Hours piece [Thank you, David_Lohr], the statement made by JA that was showcased was:

“It was hard to tell Travis no.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HelfB6s-Raw&feature=youtu.be
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I think what JA really meant and the piece implied was it was hard to tell JA “no” or JA did not accept “no” answers from TA.

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Same theme:

ARIAS: I don't – I wouldn't use obsession. I would say – I don't know. I think that when more evidence comes out, it'll be very telling that it was a two-way street.

And Travis was a wonderful person, but he was also a very persuasive and he was hard to say no to. And it was hard – you know, he wouldn't allow me to not answer his text message. If I didn't respond, he would keep calling and keep calling until I did. And so to me, that wasn't obsessive behavior on his part, it was just – I took it as a compliment. He wanted to talk to me, OK, that's great.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you obsessed with him? Those are the allegations they made.

ARIAS: No.
1/4/13: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1301/04/ng.01.html
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Holy moly! She's quite a piece of work!

Thanks for the transcript link!!!