The state Rests in The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #12

[Linda7NJ]

Maybe he tried and the Judge ruled it too prejudicial. One Judge can rule one way and another will rule the opposite.

There is a valid reason why he didnt enter it. imo

Remember in the Scott peterson case, evidence wasn't allowed in about all the camping gear and his Viagra pills were excluded for the same reason.

IMO prejudicial evidence is oftentimes the most damaging.


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[Madeleine74]

Imagine the emptiness of the soul of a person who does that. No inner light - just darkness.

It comes from a place very deep down in which the fear of abandonment is primal. She wouldn't even be conscious/aware of it without a lot of psychoanalysis. That's not an excuse, but it is part of the psychology of the 'why.' Travis represented something much more than "boyfriend," "potential mate" or "future sugar daddy." The issues are much deeper than that. The rage that built up over the feelings of abandonment built to a toxic level. Probably was connected in some way to her relationship with her parents when she was very young. Again, not an excuse and not to elicit any sympathy, but it wasn't just jealousy as a trigger. This was much, much more. IMO.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm saying it is POSSIBLE. Who really knows for sure. You don't and neither do I. Some people on here seem sure TA was a virgin. I say that 's possible of course--but not likely.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if he had 0 previous sexual experience before Jodi or 100 sexual partners. He was single and IMO its irrelevant .


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[somethinghere]

I don't have an opinion as to whether TA was a virgin or not, but with lady parts in that state it kind of makes sense if she was looking for Mormon men who weren't supposed to have engaged in premarital sex or , and might not know that is not your typical VJJ! She should have looked for a virgin to marry her before he saw the thing. Or gotten VJJ surgery before her implants.

And for any young readers who may worry about the appearance of their lady parts, and if looking at her's don't make you feel better (it should!), you are still beautiful & normal. This is a psychopath murderess, which justifies our saying she has a Venus fly trap eating a Venus flytrap eating a cone-shaped caterpillar.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I apologize if this has already been discussed.
What exactly am I seeing in the second inadvertent shot? I see the baseboard of the hall, and I see something raised off the floor, but I can't make out what I'm seeing.
Here's the link for that shot:
http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/u...edia/Camera Photos/hall2_zps7fe02f0e.jpg.html

 

[MandyLeigh]

I ran into a news report and found some answers for myself and maybe it will help others? It's about why The DA is not putting in about Jodi's stalking. I was really confused and a little irritated as to why he was not letting them know she stalked him and wrote crzy John Doe emails, broke into accounts and on and on...

In defending himself, Martinez said he has purposefully not introduced the stalking claims to avoid a mistrial or an overturned verdict since Arias is not charged with stalking.

But he went on to state that Andrews was seeing Alexander in 2007 after Alexander and Arias broke up. While Alexander was visiting Andrews, he found his car tires slashed, Martinez told the court with the jury absent. He replaced the tires and visited Andrews again the next evening and found his new tires slashed, the prosecutor said. Martinez never said who was responsible for cutting the tires.

Andrews' tires were also subsequently slashed and she received a "John Doe" letter accusing her of "a number of religiously based sins, you're a , things like that," Martinez told the judge.

Martinez recommended that Andrews not be called as a witness to avoid tainting the record.

Link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-mistrial-motion-highlighted-stalker-claims/story?id=18236699

Her defense of course insists on wanting to call those who had to deal with Jodi's craziness head on all because he was supposedly sleeping with Jodi while dating her. "Let the chips fall where they may" he claims. I can't decide if Nurmi has had his ego bruised too much by Martinez or if he is just that bad.

 

[Justme84]

So just to clarify
They did not talk about the stalking because they could
not prove it. Good thing too because honestly it
would have just played into the defense saying that
he said she stalked him but it was just a way of
isolating and disrespecting Jodi.

If he would have tried to prove it with nothing
but hearsay from a dead man then it would have looked
desperate. The prosecution doesn't need to look desperate
they have plenty of legit evidence.

 

[Justme84]

Could someone please define "temple worthy" for me? TIA

Temple worthy is pretty much living to a higher standard as a Morman
such as no caffeine, cigarettes, alcohol or sex.

 

[lil_buddy]

done & done

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Her defense of course insists on wanting to call those who had to deal with Jodi's craziness head on all because he was supposedly sleeping with Jodi while dating her. "Let the chips fall where they may" he claims. I can't decide if Nurmi has had his ego bruised too much by Martinez or if he is just that bad.[/QUOTE]

But the defense themselves brought it up in their opening. How will Juan handle the cross examination if defense brings it up with a witness they bring?

Is the defense trying to go for a mistrial, or is it ok if they are the only ones who bring it up?
I wondered too, if that childish, "I'll do it I want to nanaananan" will come back to bite the defense.




BTW, thanks for the link, Mandy

 

[Hatfield]

I apologize if this has already been discussed.
What exactly am I seeing in the second inadvertent shot? I see the baseboard of the hall, and I see something raised off the floor, but I can't make out what I'm seeing.
Here's the link for that shot:
http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/u...edia/Camera Photos/hall2_zps7fe02f0e.jpg.html

I am not sure, but I think it is either her shoe, boot, or part of the lower pant leg. The PA tried to claim that Jodi had a pair of pants like in some of the photos I think.

To me, the photos are very scary. My theory about how they happened is she somehow inadvertently set the camera to take a series of automatic photos and she didnt realize when the camera dropped, it was shooting all the photos. When she deleted the photos, she thought they were deleted forever.

Someone said that instead of her throwing the camera in the wash, she may have gathered it up by accident along with all the other clothes. Then when she left, she couldnt find the camera. Either way, so glad LE got the photos. They are hard to make out to me, but LE seems convinced they show her in the photos.

 

[polleypockets]

I apologize if this has already been discussed.
What exactly am I seeing in the second inadvertent shot? I see the baseboard of the hall, and I see something raised off the floor, but I can't make out what I'm seeing.
Here's the link for that shot:
http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/u...edia/Camera Photos/hall2_zps7fe02f0e.jpg.html

that pic they think is her dragging his body wrapped in a sheet down the hall

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Hatfield,
I mean the second shot. It's mostly the hall wall, you can see the baseboard, then something to the left that is raised off the floor.
Can't figure it out.

 

[Justme84]

that pic they think is her dragging his body wrapped in a sheet down the hall

Do you mean the duvet? I see a hole that could be a button hole on the top that you can see the trim through. I don't take Travis for one with holes in his sheets.

 

[LegalEye]

Just watched the 48 hours episode and I must say it makes me sick to my stomache. Her calm demeanor seems that of someone who knows exacly what she has done and has accepted her fate.

 

[Justme84]

Just watched the 48 hours episode and I must say it makes me sick to my stomache. Her calm demeanor seems that of someone who knows exacly what she has done and has accepted her fate.

That's a new view. Most people see it as she thinks she can
lie her way out of it so she isn't concerned. Either that or they think she's void of emotion.

 

[polleypockets]

Do you mean the duvet? I see a hole that could be a button hole on the top that you can see the trim through. I don't take Travis for one with holes in his sheets.

oohh... could be and if it is the duvet cover - then jodi did stay and wash 2 loads - because some were thinking maybe TA washed his bedding b4 shower, but i think the duvet was in the dryer - any one remember??

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Legal eye,
Accepting her fate????
She's willing to fight dirty, unethical, and everything else to make sure she does NOT get the fate that's due her.
(I agree with the rest of your post.)

 

[Hatfield]

Hatfield,
I mean the second shot. It's mostly the hall wall, you can see the baseboard, then something to the left that is raised off the floor.
Can't figure it out.

The black item to the left of the baseboard and slightly raised I think is part of the boot. If you use the left arrow in middle and go to the first 3 photos. One of them is clearly a boot. I think the same boot is showing in the baseboard photo.

The sheet one is clearly white and not black which is why I think the boot is shown near baseboard.

clear as mud to me. LOL

 

[JusticeJunkie]

oohh... could be and if it is the duvet cover - then jodi did stay and wash 2 loads - because some were thinking maybe TA washed his bedding b4 shower, but i think the duvet was in the dryer - any one remember??

Polly,
Yes the bedding was in the dryer.
Thanks for the tip, and I do see the shiny thing that may be a snap or something on a duvet, but I still can't make it make sense.