The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #13 *ADULT CONTENT*

[lil_buddy]

Jodi's mother lives in Redding, according to her Facebook page. I think Jodi simply colored her hair at her mom's house, prior to picking up the rental car in Redding.

JA was blonde when she picked up the car. She bought the hair dye in Salinas.

 

[smart blonde]

JA was blonde when she picked up the car.

Well, never mind then. lol

 

[TorisMom003]

Here's the information I could get from the testimony and the receipts shown on the screen:

Budget *- Redding; 6/2/08, 8:04 am; MasterCard 2015 6/2 8:04 2834

Shell/Syskiou Food Mart - Yreka - 6/2, 5:37 am, Matercard 2015, Fuel $15.00

MacDonald's - Lodi, CA - 6/2, 7:32 pm; fries, water

Valero - 6/2, 8:41 PM - Mastercard 2015

WAMU - Monterey - 6/3, 10:10 am; deposit 400 cash, acct 8006

WAMU - Monterey, 6/3, 10:11 am, deposit 300 cash, acct 7148

WAMU - Monterey - 6/3, 10:15 am, deposit 100 cash, acct 7148

Walmart - Monterey/Salinas ? - 6/3, 3:22 pm (facial cleaner x2, brown hair color x2, 5 gal kerosene container), paid cash $45

CVS - Pasadena, CA - 6/3, 8:31 pm

Starbucks - Pasadena, CA - 6/3, 8:41 pm, Mastercard 2015, $10.85

Arco - Pasadena, CA, 6/3, 8:42 PM, Mastercard 2015, 8 gallons $35.06

Arco, Pasadena, CA, 6/3, 8:46 PM, 9.59 gallons, $40

Arco, Pasadena, CA 6/3; 2.77 gallons

In and Out Burger - Sparks, NV - 6/6, 10:38 am, mastercard $3.37

Tesoro, SLC Utah, 6/6 3:57 am, Mastercard 2015, 10.6 gallons, 41.18

Tesoro, 6/6 , 4:05 am, fuel $36.98, mastercard 2015, 9.58 gallons

Flying J - Winnemucca, NV- 6/6, mastercard 2015, 12 gallons,$ 49.91

7-11- Sparks, NV, - 6/6, 10:34 AM, 5 gallons, MasterCard 2015

Valero, Redding CA, 6/7 12:28 PM, Mastercard, gas $40

Budget - Redding 6/7 1:08 pm

Thank you Minor for doing this. I think it also proves that Jodi did in fact return to Yreka before heading to Lodi, Ca. Here's why: The trip from Yreka,CA to Redding,CA is 1 hour and 35 minutes. She paid for the rental at 8:04 am. If she had left Redding,CA and went straight to Lodi,CA the trip would take 3 hours and 33 minutes. She purchased something in Lodi,CA at 7:32 pm. There is about 8 hours unaccounted for between the time she rented the car and the time she purchased something in Lodi. Now, a round trip from Yreka to Redding would take 3 hours and 10 minutes. Then from Yreka to Lodi would take 5 hours and 3 minutes. There's the unaccounted 8 hours! Proof to me that Jodi did in fact travel back to Yreka before heading towards AZ.

Minor, can you put this list that you made in the thread for media, etc so that it is easier to locate later on? Please and thank you!

MOO

 

[TorisMom003]

It's only a three hour trip from Redding, CA to Lodi, CA her first stop for gas on the 2nd. She picked the rental up a about 9am and purchased gas in Lodi around 9pm. That's 12 hours and a tank full of gas later. Sounds as if she went home first. She purchased the hair color the following day. jmo

You beat me to it. Here I was checking mapquest, using my calculator, making sure everything was correct and you figure it out before I did! LOL.

 

[lil_buddy]

I really think if JA had gone to a lawyer and not agreed to talk to the cops, she could have had a good chance at getting 2nd degree murder.

 

[TorisMom003]

I really think if JA had gone to a lawyer and not agreed to talk to the cops, she could have had a good chance at getting 2nd degree murder.

I disagree. Having a lawyer and not talking is not going to take away what she did to Travis. The proof was there without her talking. This would have still been a first degree murder case no matter what, IMO.

MOO

 

[lil_buddy]

I disagree. Having a lawyer and not talking is not going to take away what she did to Travis. The proof was there without her talking. This would have still been a first degree murder case no matter what, IMO.

MOO

Lawyers know the right ways to lie.

 

[LinasK]

It's only a three hour trip from Redding, CA to Lodi, CA her first stop for gas on the 2nd. She picked the rental up a about 9am and purchased gas in Lodi around 9pm. That's 12 hours and a tank full of gas later. Sounds as if she went home first. She purchased the hair color the following day. jmo

I was thinking she colored it at The Flying J truck stop, I'm pretty sure they have showers, but that was on the return trip...

 

[Madeleine74]

Obviously she colored her hair somewhere on the way to TA's because she showed up with dark hair. So it was not only possible, it was done regardless of where she stopped on her 1,000+ mi road trip to his house.

We will never know where she stopped to color her hair unless she discloses that someday. Lots of places one can accomplish this task. In the end it doesn't matter. She did it, it was done to help hide her persona if she was seen, and that's that.

 

[TorisMom003]

Ok so after some more research, I figured out the following:

Jodi bought the hair color in Salinas @ 3:22 pm
There was a CVS purchase in Pasadena @ 8:31 pm

It takes around 5 hours to get from Salinas to Pasadena so no time to color hair in between the two.

Her last purchase in Pasadena was around 8:46 pm
She arrived at Travis's around 4 am

It takes 6 hours to get from Pasadena to Mesa so there is about an hour unaccounted for. Time to color hair before getting to Travis's house.

I think this shows that between Pasadena and Mesa is when Jodi colored her hair brown.

MOO

 

[lil_buddy]

I disagree. Having a lawyer and not talking is not going to take away what she did to Travis. The proof was there without her talking. This would have still been a first degree murder case no matter what, IMO.

MOO

Maybe you're right. I don't really know. I just can't believe how much crap she's saying to Flores and how guilty it makes her sound.

 

[TorisMom003]

Lawyers know the right ways to lie.

It does not matter if she lied the "right way" or not. The proof is in the photos, DNA evidence and handprint in mixed blood at the scene. No matter what lie was told this case would not be a second degree murder case with the evidence they have against her.

MOO

 

[Madeleine74]

I think Juan Martinez is a much smarter lawyer than he's given credit for. He knows exactly what he has to prove and he's tried many, many cases in his career. This isn't his first rodeo. He knows that you don't have to throw every little piece of evidential flotsam down to prove the charges. Why spend more time than is necessary? Why would that be a good idea to add details and information that isn't required to prove your case?

I trust him and I trust his methods. It helps that the defendant admitted to the killing--she can't take that back.

 

[Madeleine74]

It does not matter if she lied the "right way" or not. The proof is in the photos, DNA evidence and handprint in mixed blood at the scene. No matter what lie was told this case would not be a second degree murder case with the evidence they have against her.

MOO

It could have been a possibility that 2nd degree murder was part of the charges, which is still not self-defense. 2nd degree lacks the premeditation aspect of 1st degree. Had she gone right to a lawyer after the killing she *might* have been able to have 2nd degree murder part of the charges. Not saying definitely, but certainly more of a chance than she did not having a lawyer. I won't be surprised if her lawyers argue for the judge to add that charge at the end of the trial, before the jury gets the case for deliberations. It happened in 2 murder cases in my area. Neither killer benefited by it since in each case the jury decided 1st degree murder.

 

[bobloblaw]

I think Juan Martinez is a much smarter lawyer than he's given credit for. He knows exactly what he has to prove and he's tried many, many cases in his career. This isn't his first rodeo. He knows that you don't have to throw every little piece of evidential flotsam down to prove the charges. Why spend more time than is necessary? Why would that be a good idea to add details and information that isn't required to prove your case?

I trust him and I trust his methods. It helps that the defendant admitted to the killing--she can't take that back.

I don't think we will see much of a fight from the defense in the guilt phase. I think they will concentrate their efforts on fighting the sentencing phase to save her life.

 

[Madeleine74]

I don't think we will see much of a fight from the defense in the guilt phase. I think they will concentrate their efforts on fighting the sentencing phase to save her life.

Agree! Notice they are lining up mitigation witnesses. That's in preparation of receiving a 1st degree murder conviction and going on to the death penalty phase of the trial. And that is where I believe witnesses like the cell mate would be called. They would be used to bolster the idea that Jodi has been and could continue to be of service to others behind bars--that her life should be spared because of her behavior and good deeds to fellow inmates.

 

[LinasK]

It could have been a possibility that 2nd degree murder was part of the charges, which is still not self-defense. 2nd degree lacks the premeditation aspect of 1st degree. Had she gone right to a lawyer after the killing she *might* have been able to have 2nd degree murder part of the charges. Not saying definitely, but certainly more of a chance than she did not having a lawyer. I won't be surprised if her lawyers argue for the judge to add that charge at the end of the trial, before the jury gets the case for deliberations. It happened in 2 murder cases in my area. Neither killer benefited by it since in each case the jury decided 1st degree murder.

Except that there is premeditation evidence- the light colored (inconspicuous) rental car, rented 90 miles away, the gun theft, the hair color, the upside down license plates, the alibi of visiting Ryan in Utah, and leaving voicemails and diary entries as if he was still alive.

 

[Madeleine74]

Except that there is premeditation evidence- the light colored (inconspicuous) rental car, rented 90 miles away, the gun theft, the hair color, the upside down license plates, the alibi of visiting Ryan in Utah, and leaving voicemails and diary entries as if he was still alive.

I agree with you. However, a talented defense attorney can argue those things--or at least try to. Doesn't mean s/he will win the argument, but it's never in a person's best interest to agree to be interrogated by LE without legal council. I'm glad she did, don't get me wrong, but I personally would never do such a thing, innocent or no. Answer questions, yes. But if I had any involvement in a crime, no way.

 

[Love Never Fails]

But they DO have to do with premeditation.

1. Who colors their hair on the road? And why, if not to appear as someone else she was setting up for the crime?

2. No gas receipts while she is ON THE WAY to T's. Let alone the way back. It's the way there (premeditation) that counts.

3. Money to spend while she's in AZ with no trace - premeditation. Why would she care if she uses cash or cc if she hadn't planned the whole thing in advance?

1. She most likely stopped at a truck stop. They have showers, as well as restrooms.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Right here is Leslie's testimony regarding her husband (Mark) sitting next to the defendant at Chili's and asking about an injury to her hand.

http://youtu.be/XY5lvxGFgpU?t=26m25s

(Raphael Columbo is with Budget Rent A Car ... not the same person)

I am going to read her testimony again but I saw it and don't remember anything about Mark also being the rental car guy.