The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #15 *ADULT CONTENT*

[Linda7NJ]

Frankly I'm surprised the defense doesn't just throw their arms up and say, "yeah...we got nuttin." They know their client is not only guilty but deserves a 1st degree murder conviction. The only thing they can do is try to save her life. This defense portion is a dance until the penalty phase.

If she doesn't get the DP, the defense will consider it a win. IMO


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[Madeleine74]

So...is this to say that we should take the opinion of your 33 year old male co-worker over the evidence of the photos? I'm gonna call foul on that one!

His opinion on what? He agrees a murderer must be convicted and sentenced appropriately and this murderer most definitely! But he also sees the gray area that makes so many people squirm -- that Travis made some choices in continuing a relationship of sorts that all agree was dysfunctional and that was terribly tragic and he did continue a sexual relationship with Jodi. Even if it was her showing up and never by invitation, he did engage in the behavior and that was playing with fire. THAT is what my coworker is able to see as a male--that is the "gray area" he talked about. It doesn't excuse murder and that's not what he said.

 

[Sleuth13]

So what's worse...

Chris Hughes asking to see the entirety of an email exchange prior to answering under oath?

or...

Gus Searcy refusing to answer a question when ordered to do so by the judge?

Chris is entitled to see an entire document already entered into evidence, just FYI

 

[Linda7NJ]

His opinion on what? He agrees a murderer must be convicted and sentenced appropriately and this murderer most definitely! But he also sees the gray area that makes so many people squirm -- that Travis made some choices that were terribly tragic and he did continue a sexual relationship with Jodi. Even if it was her showing up and never by invitation, he did engage in the behavior and that was playing with fire. THAT is what my coworker is able to see as a male.

There are no perfect victims. IMO he did nothing to get what he ultimately got.


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[m00c0w]

Here are a couple of things I learned today:

JA is accusing Travis (the dead victim) of making her do anal sex, yet according to her ex, she is very experienced in this "area".

Having done it maybe once is "very experienced"?

JA not only took pictures of Travis in the shower (which I firmly believe he did not know), right before she stabbed/sliced/got him to death, she took pictures of her ex in the shower. He did state (in so many words )he wasn't aware of it. I believe his words were something like...he didn't ask her to take them.

Yeah, he didn't ask her to take them. That doesn't mean he cared one way or the other. He did not solicit the picture-taking. He stated he did not ask her to delete them, which implies he didn't care they existed.

The problem JA has, after today, is SHE has the pattern. You can't claim someone made you do a certain sexual act, claim it's so vile you had to kill them...yet, you did the same thing with your ex.

I think you may be misstating things a little. But it's your opinion, so okay.

The gas cans...now, that just sunk her for premeditated murder.
JMO

I do agree that she's in a pretty deep hole at the moment...

 

[nursebeeme]

Nursebeme, just wanted to thank you for all of your hardwork in keeping the media thead updated with pictures, trial pseudo-transcripts, and the funny comments! We really do appreciate you!

You are welcome!

But

The thanks really go to you guys. You have done all the work and been such a great group down here in the trials forum.

My hat is off to all of you... nearly 400 people at a time reading and posting and hardly a need at all to remind about the rules.

 

[TigerBalm]

Well that was informative "this time she's charmed her way with the same sex, with a female."

Glad we straightened THAT out.

I wonder who that source is and if this is a different girl then 'R'

'R' mentioned in the comments by this person who spent time in jail with the defendant.
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/413559372053544

 

[LotusPawprint]

I haven't decided if I'll wear my wig or not yet. It will be easy to see me...I'll be the person with the pursed lips trying to suppress some kind of inappropriate outburst.:cold:

How about coming up with a WS "gang sign"? Something to flash when you know the camera's on you. Something discreet. Like flapping your arms 6 times and clapping once. Let me know. Keep it simple.

 

[lonetraveler]

Help me here, please. How can you "save yourself for marriage" when you have already been around the block and then some?

 

[m00c0w]

He's not a witness. The jury will never hear from him unless the defense calls him, and I don't think they will.

Why do you think that? They appear to have some e-mails that they may want to have him read to the jury. He's been on the defense's witness list for a while, apparently.

 

[dgfred]

Here are a couple of things I learned today:

JA is accusing Travis (the dead victim) of making her do anal sex, yet according to her ex, she is very experienced in this "area".

JA not only took pictures of Travis in the shower (which I firmly believe he did not know), right before she stabbed/sliced/got him to death, she took pictures of her ex in the shower. He did state (in so many words )he wasn't aware of it. I believe his words were something like...he didn't ask her to take them.

The problem JA has, after today, is SHE has the pattern. You can't claim someone made you do a certain sexual act, claim it's so vile you had to kill them...yet, you did the same thing with your ex.

The gas cans...now, that just sunk her for premeditated murder.
JMO

I'll try an opposing view... try.

- there will be other aspects to the supposed abuse (mainly only verbal/txt evidence IMO) and the anal aspect probably too.

- the pics in the shower are not important to the defense IMO except they show she didn't kill him. The defense should/could say that he didn't verbally abuse her or physically attack her... just saying.

- it seems to me (I may be wrong of course) that Travis sees her at one point taking pictures before being shot/stabbed. This guy obviously saw her too. I still can't understand the sitting down part... but that may have just been resting since he couldn't fall asleep with psycho over.

- IMO the vile part may be something in addition to the anal.

- The gas cans are TUFF to argue... but I will try.

* Didn't want anyone/family/payor to see any gas charges somewhere she shouldn't be or didn't tell him/her/them.
* Wasn't sure if would have money at a certain point on her card(s)... unless she or someone made a deposit.
* Paranoid (in addition to psycho) about gas. Always have to have extra gas in her car because doesn't trust gas gages and might be in desert.

Any of those any good?

Her defense is getting slapped around... but then again she left them with nothing but red flags and poison arrows.

 

[Madeleine74]

If she doesn't get the DP, the defense will consider it a win. IMO

As well they should. She's certainly not ever getting out of prison either way.

 

[katiecoolady]

I don't get the feeling she's intimidated by her husband at all and I can't imagine she'd be alone with a sleazehead like this guy. I don't think anyone was there. And Juan Martinez knows it.

I agree completely!

 

[HarvestMoon]

:floorlaugh:"a renewable resource" :floorlaugh:

 

[lonetraveler]

How about coming up with a WS "gang sign"? Something to flash when you know the camera's on you. Something discreet. Like flapping your arms 6 times and clapping once. Let me know. Keep it simple.

Yeah, don't just shoot the bird, the judge might take it personally.

 

[m00c0w]

Help me here, please. How can you "save yourself for marriage" when you have already been around the block and then some?

People do it all the time. You're a "born again" virgin. Doesn't really mean you are... but I guess in a spiritual way? I think TLC even had a show revolving around older virgins for a while, and this was something a lot of the people on the show did. It's not really a Jodi Arias thing.

 

[indicat]

I know you guys hate when T's behavior is singled out. But 2 weeks ago I told my male coworker (who is the same age as Travis) about this case, the stalking, the crazy, the sex, and then the murder and it was HIS opinion (his, NOT mine), that if a guy plays with "crazy/obsessive" then something bad is gonna happen. Not usually murder of course, but it can and does happen and my male coworker saw the "gray area" of Travis continuing to have sex with someone who was stalker/obsessive. Just throwing it out there cause this is coming from a straight 33 yr old dude who never heard of this murder and has no idea who any of these people are and no bias one way or the other.

Madeleine I just wanted to say I respect your posts. I have followed other trials with you and find them very enlightening. I question the general tone that usually follows these sentiments about Travis but sadly, no one regrets continuing having sex with Jodi more then Travis.

 

[Curious Me]

NG said a good one - she didn't know you could save yourself for marriage (after losing your virginity)...she didn't know that was a renewable source.

 

[dgfred]

Help me here, please. How can you "save yourself for marriage" when you have already been around the block and then some?

Sounds like one of those 'anything is possible' mentalities. Or lack of mental anything.

 

[LotusPawprint]

They play Twister in jail.


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