The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #17 *ADULT CONTENT*

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Ok have to get a number - doesn't look good :)
 
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When a defendant asserts the affirmative defense of self defense the victim most certainly is "on trial". The defense MUST impugn TA's character in order to make "believable"" their assertion that TA is 1) deceitful 2) sexually aggressive 3) used to a wide latitude of sexual maneuvers 4) usually "getting what he wants" with respect to love and romance and 5) effectively persuasive to the point that he subsequently functions to JA as a sort of Rasputin.

That is NOT to say that any of that supports a "justifiable self defense" resulting in homicide
 
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I'm number 38 - and guess they let 5 in this am
 
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I agree OBE, in addition I believe that most men mature much later than women do, although some never do, lol. At 30, his testosterone level had to be off the charts.

Was Jodi his first?
 
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Courtroom door is locked - a few people outside - not sure what he protocol is for getting in

not sure if you saw Linda's request... to work your heart necklace like a hoolahoop!!
 
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It could be defense is trying to show he won't take no for an answer but is persistent in getting what he wants? They are trying to profile him as an abuser IMO.
Welcome bodyfx! Yep, I totally agree.
 
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I haven't heard anything that equates to domestic abuse/violence yet. Where is it?

It's in a different trial with different accused and victim in it.
 
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Was Jodi his first?

Unknown. My guess is no, but others here vehemently disagree. I bet we'll find out before this trial is over.
 
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Was Jodi his first?

There are many opinions. However, the only person who knows was TA and anyone he may have done it with, if any such person exists.
 
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Ok, so even if the defense can come up with some alternate explanation for every one of the circumstances that suggest premeditation --

-- rented inconspicuous car 90 miles from home: defense could say she is not a flashy person and didn't want a flashy car. She rented from the airport 90 miles from home because she was visiting her brother who lives there

--dyed her hair after renting car: her roots were showing and she was sick of dying it blond..or whatever

--her phone was off for 20 hours while traveling to Arizona: her phone died and she didn't get a charger til after she was leaving AZ

--she borrowed gas cans and stocked up: she was going to be driving at night and didin't want to have to stop in unfamiliar territory

--she brought a gun (and maybe a knife): she was traveling 100's of miles alone and wanted to be able to protect herself; the knife was already present

--she took off her license plates to avoid detection: some prankster did that, it wasn't Jodi

--she used credit cards in CA but not in AZ: She had cash and not enough money on credit card

--she told no one that she was going to AZ: it was a last minute decision that she was ashamed of because she knew the relationship was wrong

Even if there's some explanation for each individual circumstance, these circumstances are taken as whole, and together they all look like premeditation and planning. Then when you consider her actions after the fact, she went to great lengths to conceal the fact that she was ever in Arizona -- lots of evidence of consciousness of guilt.

I just don't know how there can be any reasonable doubt about premeditation.


There's also the theft of the 25 handgun from the grandparent's home, that she just happened to be staying with at the time. This is also coincidentally the caliber of the murder weapon.

IMHO, hopefully in the closing, the pros will be sure to explain reasonable doubt and being able to throw out, entirely someone's testimony, ie Jodi's. If a witness, or def, is caught in a lie, the jury can completely disregard ANYTHING they've said that could be exculpatory. Where as if they haven't proven to be a liar, and circumstantial evidence is presented, one must give the benefit of the doubt to the def. NOT so if they've LIED.

Thus we have TWO previous stories by the def ................1. I wasn't there. Haven't seen T since April.
2. Well, yes I was there but it was a home invasion or whatever.

IMHO, she's toast, HOPEFULLY!

JMHO
fran
 
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So, do we know what happened to Gus? Was he held in contempt? Is he coming back? Is his testimony being thrown out?

There seems to be no mention anywhere of any resolution.
 
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for real...

Gus: "irrelevant"

Juan: "that's not how this works."

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

OMG priceless!

Just wait for exchange with Gus and the Judge!!
 
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