The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #17 *ADULT CONTENT*

[wenwe4]

Ms. Desiree Freeman - college student @ BYU - was on a mission in England 18 months - volunteer talkn to people about LDS (Mormon) religion - sister of Dan Freeman = now lives in Utah but lived in Gilbert Jan 2001 - Jan 2008 when moved to Utah to go to school -raised inthe church . . . . knew TA thru bro Daniel - knew JA thru TA .. .

Attended same church activities - JA, TA, Daniel and Desiree . . . . others present as well -from begin of 2007 to beg of 2008. . .. .hung out w/bro, JA and TA . . . a few times that year - larger church and other activities with other people. . ..went to Havisu, Sedona and Calif. . . . mostly just travel or watch movies . . saw TA, JA together when just 4 ofthem . . TA treated JA well - affectionate w/ea other- he was clingy and very veryhappy when together . . . larger group setting -TA treated JA about the same while dating - he would talk to others. ... after trip to Grand Canyon and Sedona - he didn't ignore her but were not together -JA was just someone in the background . .. .
He was flirtatious w/other girls.

GrandCanyon an Sedona was June 07 - JA, TA, brother and Desiree went - TA and JA got along very very well on that trip, other trip was 13th thru 15th Sept to Havisu Lk . .. . 4 ofthem went . . . . they acted like they were datin . . . . . no change in TA - Desiree thought TAwas datin Lisa in 9/07 . . .. findthat odd that TA brought JA? object

In church 2 people sleeping together - law of chastity . ... . 2 single people travel- it looks odd - we don't put ourselves in place of temptation . ... notviewedwell especially ifyou are dating.

TA made jokes about being a virgin . .. . happy and proud to be a virgin

Havisu 2 nights . . . ever see arguement between TA & JA . . . . . JA wanted to get out to takepics . . . when she went to get in car - TA started moving the car forward .. . JA said not funny . ... .


TA response was very stark . . . . seemed a little over the top for the encounter . .. .raised his voice . .. . joking before - Desiree was shocked by TA' over the top reaction . . .. .response that shockd you - Jodi stayed quiet and stared out window


Cross. . .

Mormon - passionate kissin, lying ontop of another, touching private parts, with or without clothing -2 people are not to arrouse sexual feelings in self or others - prohibited watching sexual aroused females . . .

Trip to Havisu Falls , Grand Canyon/Sedona trips . ... very very well got along - no conflict except one incident when he did't let her get in the car

Did yo

Incident involving defendant backpack - don't recall
Driving up to Havisu . . . .first 30 min of that trip no talking between JA and TA - just don't recall

Havisu stayed in Hammocks . . . . . Trek the 4 of them took . . . . don't remember that arguement about JA being too clingy . . .

Issue of takin photos - TA stopped car .. ...JA upset he got too close to edge. . don't remember . .. . . went to get back in ... . moved car . ... TA made an over the top remark - but can't remember

Grand Canyon trip or Havisu trip over the top comment?

Havisu trip.

Comment - it was how itwas made not the comment itself

 

[m00c0w]

This witness doesn't remember a lot of things .....

She seems kind of team jodi. I'm a little shocked.

Or maybe she was 13 at the time and it was a long time ago.

 

[Curious Me]

Gosh, this witness can't remember enough for either side to be there really!

 

[wyome]

finally, off the stand, thank God

 

[ohiogirl]

Why is he allowed to continue constructing this narrative that the witness keeps saying she doesn't remember?

I assumed he was reading from their statements that were made shortly after TA was killed. Now, they don't seem to remember what their statements were. But, you know what they say about people who assume!:waitasec:

 

[Frigga]

Well, I guess we are gonna see if Dan Freeman was really a good friend to Travis or not! I don't think his sister was.

 

[m00c0w]

To prove that she really can't remember much at all.

Or that Martinez is stating things that didn't happen?

 

[TigerBalm]

Let's hope Daniel Freeman has a better memory then his sister!

 

[Jetaime]

This witness has selective memory depending on who's asking the questions, imo...

 

[KMouse]

<missing the virgin questions/testimony due to a telephone call>

DEFENCE CALLS DESIREE FREEMAN

--On the Grand Canyon trip Jodi wanted to take some photos and Jodi got upset that Travis parked the car too lose to the edge. When Jodi got out she took photos. Jodi went to get back in and Travis went to take off and when she got back in Travis made a remark that shocked Desiree, she says it "was over the top",, but she cannot remember it today.

REDIRECT
--re: first trip, is when Travis made the "over the top comment", Desiree remembers how the comment was made because the how was over the top.
--Desiree says that she knew that Travis wanted to bring Jodi.

 

[hindsight2020]

Defense calls Daniel Freeman

 

[Jax49]

I thought Lisa testified that she felt pressured by Travis to have sex and that he touched her bottom inappropriately. Sounds like he was trying to get in there to me. And Lisa was there so she oughta know.

MOO

Thought I watched the entire testimony and I sure didn't hear that.

 

[darcedarce]

Wow, did that witness love Jodi or what.

 

[Boodles]

What a cast of characters...

 

[JSR]

Or maybe she was 13 at the time and it was a long time ago.

Or it's selective since she was able to answer all the defenses questions.

 

[callyn]

Oh heavens! On a roadtrip with four people in the car and got irritated. Well, I can see why she had to kill him.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Ms. Desiree Freeman - college student @ BYU - was on a mission in England 18 months - volunteer talkn to people about LDS (Mormon) religion - sister of Dan Freeman = now lives in Utah but lived in Gilbert Jan 2001 - Jan 2008 when moved to Utah to go to school -raised inthe church . . . . knew TA thru bro Daniel - knew JA thru TA .. .

Attended same church activities - JA, TA, Daniel and Desiree . . . . others present as well -from begin of 2007 to beg of 2008. . .. .hung out w/bro, JA and TA . . . a few times that year - larger church and other activities with other people. . ..went to Havisu, Sedona and Calif. . . . mostly just travel or watch movies . . saw TA, JA together when just 4 ofthem . . TA treated JA well - affectionate w/ea other- he was clingy and very veryhappy when together . . . larger group setting -TA treated JA about the same while dating - he would talk to others. ... after trip to Grand Canyon and Sedona - he didn't ignore her but were not together -JA was just someone in the background . .. .
He was flirtatious w/other girls.

GrandCanyon an Sedona was June 07 - JA, TA, brother and Desiree went - TA and JA got along very very well on that trip, other trip was 13th thru 15th Sept to Havisu Lk . .. . 4 ofthem went . . . . they acted like they were datin . . . . . no change in TA - Desiree thought TAwas datin Lisa in 9/07 . . .. findthat odd that TA brought JA? object

In church 2 people sleeping together - law of chastity . ... . 2 single people travel- it looks odd - we don't put ourselves in place of temptation . ... notviewedwell especially ifyou are dating.

TA made jokes about being a virgin . .. . happy and proud to be a virgin

Havisu 2 nights . . . ever see arguement between TA & JA . . . . . JA wanted to get out to takepics . . . when she went to get in car - TA started moving the car forward .. . JA said not funny . ... .


TA response was very stark . . . . seemed a little over the top for the encounter . .. .raised his voice . .. . joking before - Desiree was shocked by TA' over the top reaction . . .. .response that shockd you - Jodi stayed quiet and stared out window


Cross. . .

Mormon - passionate kissin, lying ontop of another, touching private parts, with or without clothing -2 people are not to arrouse sexual feelings in self or others - prohibited watching sexual aroused females . . .

Trip to Havisu Falls , Grand Canyon/Sedona trips . ... very very well got along - no conflict except one incident when he did't let her get in the car

Did yo

Incident involving defendant backpack - don't recall
Driving up to Havisu . . . .first 30 min of that trip no talking between JA and TA - just don't recall

Havisu stayed in Hammocks . . . . . Trek the 4 of them took . . . . don't remember that arguement about JA being too clingy . . .

Issue of takin photos - TA stopped car .. ...JA upset he got too close to edge. . don't remember . .. . . went to get back in ... . moved car . ... TA made an over the top remark - but can't remember

Grand Canyon trip or Havisu trip over the top comment?

Havisu trip.

Comment - it was how itwas made not the comment itself

THANK YOU WENWE! :seeya:

 

[m00c0w]

Or it's selective since she was able to answer all the defenses questions.

What motive would she have to lie or support JA?

 

[passionflower]

JA eyes lit up when she saw this guy come in.......notice that???

 

[Melanie]

OMG - he made a bad comment to JA. That happens in 100% of relationships (intended or not). Poor widdle Jodi.