The Talent show

[BeanE]

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My gut feeling was that Kyron wasn't scheduled to be in the talent show. Because, I would think by now, some reporter would have asked what was Kyron going to do for the talent show and we would have read about some teacher,or parent or youngster saying he was going to do such and such.

But, if he wasn't signed up then why would Schreiber, Vicki Coghill and other parents say he was? They must have had some knowledge of his participation somehow. Bugs me.

BBM. Are you sure they said he was signed up, Billylee? I can't actually recall any of them saying how they knew Kyron was supposedly going to be in the talent show. That being the case, all I can think is that their kids told them. And that leads me to believe that Kyron said it to the three kids.

 

[Billylee]

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BBM. Are you sure they said he was signed up, Billylee? I can't actually recall any of them saying how they knew Kyron was supposedly going to be in the talent show. That being the case, all I can think is that their kids told them. And that leads me to believe that Kyron said it to the three kids.

No, I don't know if he was signed up. If he was signed up he had to perform a rehearsal a day or two before (if they did it like they did it in the 2009 newsletter, up thread), so someone, somewhere would have seen that. Which makes me wonder if he was signed up why we haven't heard about his routine or skit or whatever. And if he wasn't signed up why on earth would these people be saying he was? That's my question, hope I'm clear.

 

[Billylee]

Just occurred to me, if TH knew the people that are saying he was supposed to be in the talent show, she could have told them he was signed up to be in it, in order to further emphasize that Kyron would be in school all day. Oh my, I wonder if that's why we've heard no more about the talent show from media, school or LE. Could this have been a TH lie? If Schreiber an Coghill were told by TH he was signed up to be in it and he was not.

 

[Jo in Calif]

IMO if the teacher marked Kyron absent at 10:00, and IMO she did so because he was not in class. She would not therefore expect him to be in the talent show, because he was absent. IMO LE has questioned Terri if Kyron was supposed to be in the talent show. IMO I can't see how the school would be CYA, regardless if Kyron was scheduled to be in the talent show or not, he was marked absent, because he was, at 10:00 at the time roll was taken, why would there be a question as to why he was not present for the talent show?

 

[Donjeta]

No matter who had the truck that day, and this is O/T because it's not about the talent show, Why was Kyron supposed to take the bus home when TH or KH could have picked him up in the truck along with the sci project? I still have yet to hear a reporter ask him that question, and I'd love to hear his answer. I think the reporters have missed the boat a lot in this saga, but that's a whole 'nother story.

If we go that route we could ask why he took the bus any day because I figure that with two vehicles in the family, flexible hours and a SAHM, one or both of them, Kaine or Terri, could have arranged to pick him up pretty much every day. Maybe they just figured that it was unnecessary for them to drive to the school and back every day when there was a perfectly good school bus going their way anyway that all his friends were taking as well. It makes sense to me.

It is a good point about nobody ever asking what Kyron was supposed to do in the talent show. It could be that the parents of the other children weren't quite sure and IMO the other children might not be quite sure either unless they were in the same talent performance with him or had seen him practicing.

I think this is something in which rumors could be playing a pretty big part. No one has confirmed anything that I know of and even Desiree referred to the talent show talk as rumors and if the Skyline parents talk among themselves things like "I wonder if Kyron was supposed to be in the talent show" might eventually morph into "Kyron was going to be in the talent show".

Dunno. I wish someone from the school could confirm it. Not that I think it would solve the case, it would just be one thing that could be known for sure.

 

[i.b.nora]

So far it seems like the only ones mentioned by name, who say Kyron was signed up for the talent show are Schreiber and Coghill. Schreiber does have a student in the school, we know that. So, it is possible that her son told her that Kyron was to be in the Talent Show. Or, since she seemed to be hanging around the school that day, it is possible she saw a list of the participants? Now, Schreiber also hangs out at the church buidling across the street. The building that Coghill manages. There is no indication that Coghill has a child who is or was a student at Skyline last June.

Therefore, it is likely, in my opinion, that Coghill got her info from Schreiber, who was passing on something her son said, or she saw a list, or she just assumed. Who knows?

So two people, basically, one who heard it from the other. That's how I size it up.

Oh, and then there is the church building owner who ordered people not to talk with the press.

 

[Donjeta]

Just occurred to me, if TH knew the people that are saying he was supposed to be in the talent show, she could have told them he was signed up to be in it, in order to further emphasize that Kyron would be in school all day. Oh my, I wonder if that's why we've heard no more about the talent show from media, school or LE. Could this have been a TH lie? If Schreiber an Coghill were told by TH he was signed up to be in it and he was not.

It crossed my mind but wasn't there some parent who said her child was supposed to do a number with Kyron? If true it implies that it was not just a lie by Terri. She could nevertheless have emphasized Kyron's upcoming part in the show to make it look like she expected him to be there in the afternoon, IMO, and it would have been safer for her if he really was signed up to do something.

 

[pdx]

BeanE, you so clever.. that is the extra bonus quote I wanted to add but forgot.

 

[BeanE]

Donjeta, the GJ kid's parent. Can't remember the name.

 

[Billylee]

Well, wasn't the GJ kid Schreiber's son J?

 

[Donjeta]

Found this quote on several discussion forums but the original Koin link doesn't work for me:

This comes at the same time that a Multnomah County grand jury continues to meet, with a 9-year-old classmate of Kyron’s being the latest to appear. The mother of the boy said she was not allowed inside and did not ask him about the secret proceeding. Her son and Kyron were scheduled to perform together in the school talent show the afternoon of his disappearance.

 

[BeanE]

Well, wasn't the GJ kid Schreiber's son J?

I dunno. Like I said, I don't know the name for the GJ kid.

 

[Billylee]

I dunno. Like I said, I don't know the name for the GJ kid.

LOL yep, that's what you said alrighty!

 

[Billylee]

I think I just assumed it was Schreiber's son due to his age, 9 and the fact that she had already been interviewed by LE.

Schreiber said she and her son, J, 9, were interviewed Sunday by a federal agent. She said she told the agent that Friday was an especially hectic day at Skyline.

"On a normal day, seeing a stranger will make you go, 'Hmm. I wonder who that is?' On such a hectic day as Friday, there was such a lot going on. To tell you the truth, I was focused on looking at the (science) project and helping J fill out his (evaluation) form and not on the faces around me."

Schreiber said Kyron was supposed to perform in the school's talent show at 1 p.m. but she didn't see him there.


So, if it is J that was called before the GJ, it's interesting that Schreiber herself was not called before the GJ, but her son J was. Why do we think that he was called? I always figured it was because he was the last one to see Kyron at 9:00. But maybe there's some other reason??

 

[i.b.nora]

There are a bunch of 'J' kids.

 

[Donjeta]

I think I just assumed it was Schreiber's son due to his age, 9 and the fact that she had already been interviewed by LE.

Schreiber said she and her son, J, 9, were interviewed Sunday by a federal agent. She said she told the agent that Friday was an especially hectic day at Skyline.

"On a normal day, seeing a stranger will make you go, 'Hmm. I wonder who that is?' On such a hectic day as Friday, there was such a lot going on. To tell you the truth, I was focused on looking at the (science) project and helping J fill out his (evaluation) form and not on the faces around me."

Schreiber said Kyron was supposed to perform in the school's talent show at 1 p.m. but she didn't see him there.


So, if it is J that was called before the GJ, it's interesting that Schreiber herself was not called before the GJ, but her son J was. Why do we think that he was called? I always figured it was because he was the last one to see Kyron at 9:00. But maybe there's some other reason??

BBM. The bolded paragraph sounds like Ms. Schreiber wasn't very observant that morning and didn't notice much about what was going on around her in which case she wouldn't have much pertinent information to share with the GJ but who knows, it might not apply to her son.

 

[angelmom]

I think I just assumed it was Schreiber's son due to his age, 9 and the fact that she had already been interviewed by LE.

Schreiber said she and her son, J, 9, were interviewed Sunday by a federal agent. She said she told the agent that Friday was an especially hectic day at Skyline.

"On a normal day, seeing a stranger will make you go, 'Hmm. I wonder who that is?' On such a hectic day as Friday, there was such a lot going on. To tell you the truth, I was focused on looking at the (science) project and helping J fill out his (evaluation) form and not on the faces around me."

Schreiber said Kyron was supposed to perform in the school's talent show at 1 p.m. but she didn't see him there.


So, if it is J that was called before the GJ, it's interesting that Schreiber herself was not called before the GJ, but her son J was. Why do we think that he was called? I always figured it was because he was the last one to see Kyron at 9:00. But maybe there's some other reason??

I wonder if her son was the one who told her that Kyron was supposed to be in the talent show. In that case, she wouldn't really be able to testify to the truth of it; however, a child who had been in the rehearsal or pre-screening with Kyron could testify to that.

 

[ami]

We only have Kaine's assertion that Terri demanded the truck on that day. And since, again by his assertion, Terri set up the display on Thursday, the day before, needing the truck then to carry the display over to the school, why it was that Kaine, who planned on being home around 2 that day anyway, didn't just say "hey, no worries. Here's what we'll do. I'll take the car, and when I get home, we'll drive over to the school and get Kryon for ice cream and picking up the display to take down so Des can see it."

Instead, all we hear is that Terri insisted, and it doesn't make sense. What doesn't make sense for me is why an analytical thinker wouldn't think it through immediately and come up with what I did above.

because the minute I heard about the truck, that was my first thought.

I've never heard that Terri "insisted" or "demanded" - I heard Kaine say she said she needed it to pick up the project, and that was a normal thing for them to do (trading cars) when she had something big to carry. Also, if the sci fair was over at 10 am or whenever, Kaine probably (logically) assumed she'd bring it home then, hours before he got home. He only seemed to rethink that when he realized post-abduction that she'd never brought it home. It's the most logical scenario, so not sure why there would be any fuss about it or why he should have thought of your more round-about scenario.

About the talent show, I still wonder if many parents attended. Surely LE has that information. The science fair seemed to draw a crowd.. if the talent show did as well, then it would have been odd if in Terri's timeline she was at the gym rather than at the show.

 

[DreamyEye]

My head is swimming from reading about Kyron, and I've barely made a dent in the information that's here--so please pardon me if this point has already been covered:

If Kyron is like most kids, and he's been told that he's going to to have to leave school early for a doctors appt--and he knows he's scheduled to perform in a talent show with one or more classmates at that same time, then he would probably feel that he needed to say to someone else involved in his number "say look, I'm not going to be able to do the talent show. I've got to go to the doctor."

If the co-performer didn't know in advance that Kryon would miss the talent show, then Kyron must not have told him. What this says to me is that Kyron expected to be in school for the full day, and expected to perform in the show. MHOO.

 

[DreamyEye]

Also, something about Kyron being characterized as "shy" is bothering me a little bit. We have seen that he was front and center for one talent show on the small clip of the video that the media has shown, and while he isn't grandstanding, he doesn't appear to be so shy that he was unable to perform.
The other clip of him also, where he is reading something about his Bridge project, yes, somewhat shy/quiet, but again, not so withdrawn that the thougt of a public appearance terrified him.
I'm not sure if I am misinterpreting him or not, but I think we may have attributed more shyness to him than he really exhibits.
MOO...

Thank you for saying this, Nurse. I've had the exact same impression--a kid really involved in his school work, having his share of friends, proud of his science project--happy to have his picture taken in front of it, and happy to have other people looking at it.