The weekend BEFORE Haleigh went missing-revisited

[lil momma]

Whatever auto accident Hank Sr was in, if he was in one. That also happened that weekend iirc. moo

Does anyone recall how cousin joe arrived in the area? Did he not have an auto of his own?[/QUOTE]

I heard during a weekly update on HC's case that Joe came and left Satsuma with a woman who drove a blue cadillac which leads us to believe Joe didn't have his own vehicle to drive around in. Her vehicle was apparently apprehended by LE and tested. It surprises me that a woman would have the time and money to chauffeur joe around for approximately 1 month. We don't have anymore information on this woman and no one including LE or members of the Croslin and Cummings family have mentioned her. I wonder where she stayed because it doesn't appear she stayed with Joe at Timmy and Chelsea's TMK.

Hi Bluesky!

I thought it was NayNay with the blue caddy. That had the big dent in the back. iirc, (and i could be wrong) but i think LE had to recover it from a junk yard or an impound.

 

[atherella]

Hi Bluesky!

I thought it was NayNay with the blue caddy. That had the big dent in the back. iirc, (and i could be wrong) but i think LE had to recover it from a junk yard or an impound.

I believe that JO traveled from TN with someone named "Jennifer". She also had a blue Caddy. (Lots of them in the area, I guess). :crazy:

I do recall hearing about LE recovering NayNay's car from a junk yard and running some tests on it. (That came out in the "jail house letters" that NayNay wrote to her mother & her mother).


This is snipped from NayNay's letter to her mother:

 

[Whisperer]

The reporting has been horrendous with Cobra and the media. I did not find that with Levi though.

I am about ready to contact these reporters but I am with family and we are having some difficulties right now with our beloved pet who I cannot leave for a minute. By next week I will have hoped to have contacted some of them, as I am totally confused on some of their reporting.

First with the van, Matt Saffer reported that van as if it belonged to Chelsea. She did the interview and never mentioned that it was not her van.

What ever happened to that battery charge Amber's mother filed against her. Chelsea and Misty must have been very close for Chelsea to go after Amber's mother like that.
This family sure has their share of scrappers.

I found nothing on the car accident involving Hank sr. I thought their would be a lawsuit by now. Lf could locate this stuff better than I.

 

[lil momma]

I believe that JO traveled from TN with someone named "Jennifer". She also had a blue Caddy. (Lots of them in the area, I guess). :crazy:

I do recall hearing about LE recovering NayNay's car from a junk yard and running some tests on it. (That came out in the "jail house letters" that NayNay wrote to her mother & her mother).


This is snipped from NayNay's letter to her mother:

Oy Vey...... another blue caddy..... Thanks atherella!

 

[lonetraveler]

http://www.youtube.com/user/artharrisdotcom#p/u/42/a1I6zOihOTw

In the video of NayNay at the 2:35 mark she describes the damage to her car.
Amber is the one who got it stuck in the sand. I've heard by the church in San Mateo.
WARNING-There is foul language in the video!!

Also, Whisperer, I have to correct you on 1 thing, the damage to Lindsy's blue van was on the drivers side-headlight and scratch down the side.

I just realized that the first words out of Nay Nay's mouth is that Ron threw Misty into a mirror and the mirror broke and Misty's arm was cut up. I have always assumed that the mirror was inside of the MH, now after viewing the video of the van damage (with broken driver's side mirror) I'm wondering if it wasn't the van mirror that Ron threw Misty into and the van mirror was the one broken in their fight.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Warning: fftopic:

Ok, just have to share a little funny with ya'll . . .

Got HLN on in the background and Richelle just started talking about some horse named Misty. But when she started the story off with "Misty the HORse" . . . Boy, did I think she was going somewhere else with that story :angel:

 

[lonetraveler]

The reporting has been horrendous with Cobra and the media. I did not find that with Levi though.

I am about ready to contact these reporters but I am with family and we are having some difficulties right now with our beloved pet who I cannot leave for a minute. By next week I will have hoped to have contacted some of them, as I am totally confused on some of their reporting.

First with the van, Matt Saffer reported that van as if it belonged to Chelsea. She did the interview and never mentioned that it was not her van.

What ever happened to that battery charge Amber's mother filed against her. Chelsea and Misty must have been very close for Chelsea to go after Amber's mother like that.
This family sure has their share of scrappers.

I found nothing on the car accident involving Hank sr. I thought their would be a lawsuit by now. Lf could locate this stuff better than I.

So sorry about your pet. I hope everything goes well.

 

[debs]

I just realized that the first words out of Nay Nay's mouth is that Ron threw Misty into a mirror and the mirror broke and Misty's arm was cut up. I have always assumed that the mirror was inside of the MH, now after viewing the video of the van damage (with broken driver's side mirror) I'm wondering if it wasn't the van mirror that Ron threw Misty into and the van mirror was the one broken in their fight.

A very astute observation, Lone.

 

[Whisperer]

LT...Great Thinking going on there. I bet that is what happened too. I had no idea the van mirror was also broken.

If misty were driving that van that weekend, you can bet rc found her. She went to Crescent City...Everyone involved in this case with the exception of Tommy lives there. Very likely rc was there looking for her all weekend. It would be very interesting to know the real story.

So Amber got stuck in San Mateo....now I have to wonder if it is near the store where rc stopped that fateful night.

Any word on the clothes found in San Mateo last week or so?

 

[LFlorida]

I believe that JO traveled from TN with someone named "Jennifer". She also had a blue Caddy. (Lots of them in the area, I guess). :crazy:

I do recall hearing about LE recovering NayNay's car from a junk yard and running some tests on it. (That came out in the "jail house letters" that NayNay wrote to her mother & her mother).


This is snipped from NayNay's letter to her mother:

That was a weird link, ath. [at least on my computer, so who knows?]

NayNay had a lt blue Lincoln, IIRC.

 

[lonetraveler]

Good find! Not sure when the 2nd picture was taken, but it looks like there could be some damage to the left back bumper.

Somebody please let me know if I've gone blind or not. Does it look like the back glass is out of this car and plastic has been taped over the back glass area? Looks as though there is a tear on the plastic?

 

[LFlorida]

The reporting has been horrendous with Cobra and the media. I did not find that with Levi though.

I am about ready to contact these reporters but I am with family and we are having some difficulties right now with our beloved pet who I cannot leave for a minute. By next week I will have hoped to have contacted some of them, as I am totally confused on some of their reporting.

First with the van, Matt Saffer reported that van as if it belonged to Chelsea. She did the interview and never mentioned that it was not her van.

What ever happened to that battery charge Amber's mother filed against her. Chelsea and Misty must have been very close for Chelsea to go after Amber's mother like that.
This family sure has their share of scrappers.

I found nothing on the car accident involving Hank sr. I thought their would be a lawsuit by now. Lf could locate this stuff better than I.

The battery charges filed by Amber vs. Misty, and Lindsy [or Chelsea] vs. Amber's mom were all announced as No Information, iirc.

If Hank Sr was injured when his [or Chelsea's] vehicle was struck by another vehicle driven by an uninsured driver, I'm not sure there would be a lawsuit or other public record. No PI atty would take a case vs. someone with -0- assets [and I have no idea if that's the case, but most peeps w/a pot to pi$$ in have insurance] nor an insurance company to pay out any damages. [sorry, poorly written.]

If the other driver was at fault and was charged, I don't know where [or why] there would be a public record that would include Hank Sr's name.

AND

I have so little faith in that balled guy's reporting, whisp.

 

[LFlorida]

Oh and I forgot to mention,

ITA whisperer re: Levi's reporting.

 

[Whisperer]

I don't know LF,..if there was a serious injury as Hank claimed, wouldn't that drunk driver be in jail? I would think Hank would still press charges regardless if he has insurance or not..no?

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Insurance or no insurance, if some drunk person hit Hank, I GUARANTEE we'd be hearing more about it. I never thought about it before, but there's no way he wouldn't be suing. What I'd like to know, is were there any unbiased witnesses? Did LE talk to this supposed drunk driver? Was there a police report? OR did someone just drive Hank to the ER and say a drunk driver hit him but he didn't have insurance, so they didn't bother with calling the police . . . .

I hadn't given this a second thought before, just assuming LE was involved in this incident. But now, knowing how violent and volitile these people are and all the issues they seem to have with vehicles, I'd like to hear more.

Cars and laundry. What is it with these families and cars and laundry???

 

[Whisperer]

Was he walking when he got hit? Oh..nevermind. He was driving Chelsea's new car...that's right.

 

[Whisperer]

Insurance or no insurance, if some drunk person hit Hank, I GUARANTEE we'd be hearing more about it. I never thought about it before, but there's no way he wouldn't be suing. What I'd like to know, is were there any unbiased witnesses? Did LE talk to this supposed drunk driver? Was there a police report? OR did someone just drive Hank to the ER and say a drunk driver hit him but he didn't have insurance, so they didn't bother with calling the police . . . .

I hadn't given this a second thought before, just assuming LE was involved in this incident. But now, knowing how violent and volitile these people are and all the issues they seem to have with vehicles, I'd like to hear more.

Cars and laundry. What is it with these families and cars and laundry???

Is there a newspaper story?

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Is there a newspaper story?

You'd think there would be, being it's a small town and all - you know, not much else to report on. I'm going to go search some archives of the local news

 

[Whisperer]

It appears LE is making a connection of that weekend and haleigh missing...

We have damaged vehicles that one (blue van) says they have no idea and obviously did not try to find out either. We have rc's car which looks like back bumper damage..don't know when it occurred. Now we have Hank involved in a major collision. Amber allegedly driving Nay's car getting stuck in San Mateo and receiving major damage geting pushed.All of these coming together the weekend of Haleigh disappearing.

Points to remember:

Charlie clamis rc backed into him...I believe him
Crystal says rc backed her in before also.

....may be a pattern or MO of rc and his behaviour...IDK.

 

[lonetraveler]

Hi Bluesky!

I thought it was NayNay with the blue caddy. That had the big dent in the back. iirc, (and i could be wrong) but i think LE had to recover it from a junk yard or an impound.

Nay Nay's car was a blue Lincoln Towncar.