The weekend BEFORE Haleigh went missing-revisited

[titanfan62702]

I imagine rc went off in his customary fashion when they told him he was fired and that is why they had security. People know ron and are afraid of him...with good reason, I may add.

Amazing that the only people/company that actually knows RC's work shift and when he supposedly there that night (I know for a fact that people can/do leave work area without permission) is the same ones that fired him and then had security 'cause of it.

 

[News Junkie]

I believe this is why they tore up someones yard - possibly GGS??? It was property belonging to one of the family members. IIRC, there was a fire there the night or within a couple of Haleigh going missing.

YellowSubmarine, I remember hearing about this in passing, was it at a place where Church furnishing were being stored? I really hope they checked this out.

 

[Whisperer]

lol - I don't think I'd even make it to voie dire [or however you spell that.]

OT: Hi LF,

Why am I not surprised? I mean that in the nicest possible way. The attorney for the defense wants a very liberal person who would only think, or try to think that their defendent could not have done the crime.

Any connections or leaning towards LE thinking....you're history. Proscecution wants you and Defense gets rid of you. If defense wants you, prosecution will get rid of you.

LF, you have to do a study on who gets chosen...lol...I have never seen anyone picked with LE relatives or psych backgrounds. Both of these types can confuse a typical juror's way of thinking.

 

[lonetraveler]

I have spent hours searching for any news of a car accident for Hank Sr. There is NOTHING out there--just the family's comments. Hmmmmmmmm

I'm beginning to think that he had an accident all by himself and just told the story about the hit and run. JMO.

 

[lonetraveler]

Good thought! Considering this is someone he loved, would he put her near a rented mobile home, though, or on some property where he could go "visit" her at Christmas and her birthday? In someone's garden or such? Just another thought.

There were reports at one time that Marie G. Haleigh's grandmother searched Seven Sister's Island, located directly across the water from the dock where the dogs tracked. I think that Ron has Haleigh close by so that she can be visited by loved ones later when the heat is off.

 

[lonetraveler]

BBM

When I first heard about PDM hiring security I thought to myself "HUH?" To me that just didn't sound right. The first thought that came to mind was that something happened at PDM the night Haleigh went missing and PDM felt that if they had security it would've never happened. So I was thinking maybe Ron left the property that night, maybe he brought something onto the property that night, or maybe he stole something from PDM that night, or maybe there was an altercation at PDM that night. I was just trying to think of reasons PDM would later hire security.

Reasons to hire security:

THEFT
LEAVING THE PREMISES WHILE ON THE CLOCK
BRINGING UNIDENTIFIED ITEMS/PERSONS ONTO THE PROPERTY W/O PERMISSION

These are my top picks. If they had security neither of these would happen.

BBM
I still have a problem with Ron's work hours but maybe he was clocked in for his shift. That doesn't mean that he was there on the property during his entire shift. PDM hires SECURITY and RON hires a DEFENSE ATTORNEY. Go figure.

I have always wondered if Ron used equipment in an nonauthorized area, ie., bobcat or small front end loader and could not be found when he was suppose to have been working. That could get you fired in a hurry. I really wish that Tim Miller could search the PDM property.

 

[lonetraveler]

IMHO..There is no reason for anyone to be afraid of him..Personally, I view him as a coward...JMO

Emeralgem, I agree with you about Ron's preception of being a coward but believe it or not there are people who would definitely be afraid of a Billy Bad A** waving a gun and threatening to kill them. Me, I'm not afraid of him either. I could speak a language that Ron could definitely understand if I had too.

 

[lonetraveler]

Has there been any information published on Ron's activities during the three or four days prior to Haleigh's reported disappearance? There has been an abundance of information out regarding Misty, Nay Nay, Amber, WBG, but what about Ron? Teresa? and GMS? What do we know about these people? As facts?

 

[Emeralgem]

I have always wondered if Ron used equipment in an nonauthorized area, ie., bobcat or small front end loader and could not be found when he was suppose to have been working. That could get you fired in a hurry. I really wish that Tim Miller could search the PDM property.

IMHO..PDM property should have been checked by LE eleven months ago. Thats my stance on the subject..JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

Emeralgem, I agree with you about Ron's preception of being a coward but believe it or not there are people who would definitely be afraid of a Billy Bad A** waving a gun and threatening to kill them. Me, I'm not afraid of him either. I could speak a language that Ron could definitely understand if I had too.

BBM.. Me too and for the record I'm considered a senior citizen and would love to have the opportunity to confront GGMS...JMO

 

[LFlorida]

IMHO..PDM property should have been checked by LE eleven months ago. Thats my stance on the subject..JMO

Since media was camped out in Satsuma the first month, we don't know that LE didn't search PDM's property. It's not on a well-travelled road except for the people who work down there. I don't recall ever seeing media video from around that area.

FWIW - IHNI if they searched it.

 

[Kimster]

Let's knock off the chats about confronting the players in this case. I know everyone is frustrated. We still need to refrain from going down the path of attacking the players.

Thanks!

 

[Emeralgem]

Let's knock off the chats about confronting the players in this case. I know everyone is frustrated. We still need to refrain from going down the path of attacking the players.

Thanks!

Will do Kimster..

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I posted this in the areas that have been searched thread and felt it could belong here as well in the "Monday Night Clothe" thread. Because this is what was reported by LE. Mod's please move as needed. TIA

I know many have questioned what LE was doing at Tyler st. the day Haleigh went missing.
In this transcript it states the reason there was to Verifying the last time Haleigh was seen which was, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours from time of the 911 call at 3:27AM. Which would of been around 2:00AM, not 10PM.
If I understand this correctly. If I am wrong please correct me. This was mentioned around 6min into the 911 call.

"Snip" http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5173311.php
FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.
OP: 10:4. Verifying the last time she was seen ____address.
FLE2: She was seen within her residence, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours ago..

 

[twall]

~snip~ from Greg Page interview-

We were just riding around, typical Friday and Saturday night. Just riding around having fun, just me, Misty and Nay Nay.

I don’t remember the last day, but I’m sure I like seen her Sunday.And that was the last day I seen her. But Monday, I did talk to Misty. And she told me she was at the hospital with her Dad, because her Dad had been in a car a wreck. And she said, ‘I’ll call you back, and never heard from her again.”

But I haven’t tried to contact her since because I want to stay the hell away from her.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/11/exclusive-white-boy-greg-on-the-bald-truth/

G. Page is stating he saw Misty on Sunday...make that maybe cuz he says "I don't remember the last day". Really, I can't imagine why? Was he in a drug haze?

He is sure he spoke to Misty on the phone on Monday-she told him she was at the hospital visiting her Dad. hmmmmmmm......was she lying to Greg or was she really at the hospital? If she did go to the hospital on Monday she failed to mention that detail while describing the days events before the hypnosis.

BBM-I had to laugh at this statement-it didn't take Greg long to figure out that wherever Misty goes trouble follows her so he should distance himself from her-smart guy!

MOO

 

[Whisperer]

IMHO, greg knows more than what he told AH. I do not think the partying ended Sunday morning either. He also said it was "just a fling". Well, he was still pursuing her after Sunday morning as he just said he only talked with her on Monday...

I also think misty was smittin with WBG. I would think Nay would have been in touch with WBG on monday also. Remember Nay sais misty asked her to stay with her while she watched her brother's kids on monday? Another conflicting story....

I believe ron had a big hecka fight with misty about her watching her brother's kids on monday and he wanted her home on Green lane.

For some reason, I get the impression that ron's family were putting their foot down about him starting to get more involved with taking care of these kids. He may have been trying to prove to his GMA that he could do it on his own and misty was messing everything up with her shenanigans.

 

[Emeralgem]

~snip~ from Greg Page interview-

We were just riding around, typical Friday and Saturday night. Just riding around having fun, just me, Misty and Nay Nay.

I don’t remember the last day, but I’m sure I like seen her Sunday.And that was the last day I seen her. But Monday, I did talk to Misty. And she told me she was at the hospital with her Dad, because her Dad had been in a car a wreck. And she said, ‘I’ll call you back, and never heard from her again.”

But I haven’t tried to contact her since because I want to stay the hell away from her.

I also recall reading he wished he had never met or heard of her...JMO

 

[Concerned Papa]

I pretty much stay confused about which thread something should post in, but I'll try this one. If it needs moving I'm sure Kimster will take care of the issue, lol.

First, I wanted to make you aware of a site I ran across while looking for something unrelated to this post. The link below is a great resource for old information. The site has no editorials, no comments, just articles with links posted. Something you have been trying to find may be here:

http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=123974&threadid=2011638&page=1

While at this site, I read 3 or 4 articles with info about the RC/JO fight, gun, etc. There were apparently several people talking about a fight that RC decided to deny ever happened. What was new information, at least to me, was that the alleged fight happened, or didn't happen, on Sunday February 8th, the day before Haleigh went missing:

Family members of Ronald Cummings say he got into a fight with another man over a gun one day before his daughter disappeared.

A relative told First Coast News Cummings accused the other man of stealing a gun. The relative could not remember the name of the man or where the fight happened.

The relative said the man disappeared the next day and the gun was found in a ditch.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=131661&catid=3

IIRC, Misty said she found the gun in a culvert at her brother's house through some type of an amazing "OMG there it was" revelation.

My point is this, why would anyone "steal" a gun only to hide it in a culvert at a relative's house and leave town?

It would seem that RC was not a happy camper the weekend before Haleigh disappeared with his "true luv" out on a whirlwind romance with WBG. I think it is completely possible that a concerned relative of Misty just might have spanked RC's little hiney and took the gun away from him, particularly if he was making threats towards MC.

I just can't buy into the theory that RC makes the ground shake and grown men quiver when he's around.

That would explain his, *ahem*, "reluctance" to be forthcoming about such an altercation that everyone else said occured.

Cummings also dodged questions about his home life and a possible fight between him and a cousin over a gun the night his daughter disappeared.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18743397/detail.html

 

[ladonna]

Papa..

Speaking of Joe Overstreet, I just read that he has turned his life around and has been in the military for awhile. I hope its ok to post that here, and with your great sleuthing is there anyway this info can be confirmed?

 

[doobiedoo52]

When Misty was on her 3 day binge, I wonder if Ron could have gotten drunk (like Fri night) and went into work late and was beligerant (sp). Perhaps he was sent home from PDM that night and told to report in Mon. for disciplinary action. He might have gone out looking for Misty after he left the plant. He dumped her clothes sometime at Nay Nay's mom's house. He may have also been carrying his gun around and threatening her (sort of like the roadrage thing with Mr Jones).

If something like that was witnessed by Tommy and/or cousin Joe over the weekend, it would be logical that one of them might steal the weapon from RC and hide it in the culvert as protection for Misty. It also is reasonable that HC & JR were at GGS's house during this whole weekend while Ron was on his rampage.

I think NayNay must have dropped her off at Tim & Chelsea's sometime Sunday so she could babysit on Monday. HC & JR stayed at GGS yet because Misty wasn't home to get HC ready for school. That explains Ron speeding to GGS to get HC to school on time. If Ron & Misty finally got together on Monday sometime to "make up" I imagine Misty got the gun back for him after he cooled off because Tommy/Joe told her where they put it for safekeeping.