Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #3

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Neither of Jaycee's children were born with congenital health issues that need constant monitoring.

But hey, if there's a viable, working theory out there where Haleigh is secreted away with a family member with health training, please.....point me to it.
 
LE doesn't have to point out Ronald's inconsistencies. They're all over all the interviews he has given.
 
There are also people with medical training among the family. HaLeigh may also not have needed medical care. It's not hard to get a nebulizer or inhaler, and there could be folks who already have those things. You can buy a nebulizer on craigslist. Remember Jaycee gave birth to two children and in their lives, and her years while abducted they did not see doctors iirc.

What a horrible thing to go though. I can't image how she managed to get though this ordeal. I am wondering what happens when you need to see a dentist. Do you just pull your own teeth? What if an abscess occurs? these are things that can't be taken care of at home. I really feel for Jaycee and all she and her children endured.
 
I agree Bern it's horrible, I can't even imagine. She's an incredible woman, with only grade 5 education iirc she taught her girls and both are ahead of where they should be in their education iirc
 
Neither of Jaycee's children were born with congenital health issues that need constant monitoring.

But hey, if there's a viable, working theory out there where Haleigh is secreted away with a family member with health training, please.....point me to it.

I asked that a few pages back. I got fluff..... I worked hard on my theory, I tried to explain and back up with time, and distance of drives and as much as I could to support the theory. I think it needs to be done with the secreted away theory. If it holds water, then if should be sleuthed. JMO LE is not looking in this direction for a reason.

If it is NOT a stranger abduction is it:

A person who knew Haleigh, thus not a stranger abduction as in neighbor, family, friends...

Or is it an accident? That is not a stranger abduction. Is LE using semantics?

Draining ponds is not a family abduction.
 
Neither of Jaycee's children were born with congenital health issues that need constant monitoring.

But hey, if there's a viable, working theory out there where Haleigh is secreted away with a family member with health training, please.....point me to it.

It has been said numerous times that Haleigh's Turner's did not require "constant monitoring." Why is that issue forced every time an abduction is mentioned? It's not like she was on kidney dialysis or something that was life threatening w/o "constant monitoring."

SNIP~
What are the symptoms of Turner syndrome?
People with Turner syndrome can have a wide variety of symptoms. Some people may have more severe problems, and others may have mild symptoms. Turner syndrome may affect many areas, such as:

Appearance – Features may include short neck, low hairline at the back of the neck, low-set ears, hands and feet that are swollen or puffy at birth, and soft nails that turn upward.
Stature – Children with Turner grow more slowly than other kids and without treatment tend to be very short as adults.
Puberty/Reproduction – Most individuals with Turner syndrome lose ovarian function in early childhood and do not start puberty at a normal age. These women usually cannot become pregnant naturally.
Cardiovascular – Some individuals with Turner syndrome have structural problems with their hearts or major blood vessels. For this reason, everyone with Turner syndrome needs a thorough cardiologic evaluation at the time of diagnosis. High blood pressure also affects about 20 percent of girls and 40 percent of adults with Turner syndrome.
Kidney – Some people with Turner have kidneys that appear to be structurally abnormal, but their kidney function is usually normal.
Osteoporosis – Women with Turner syndrome who do not get adequate estrogen often get osteoporosis, which can cause loss of height, and increased bone fractures.
Diabetes – People with Turner syndrome are at higher risk for Type II diabetes.
Thyroid – Many people with Turner have thyroid problems, usually hypothyroidism, or an under-active thyroid.
Cognitive – Even though people with Turner syndrome have normal intelligence, some have problems with specific visual-spatial coordination tasks (such as mentally rotating objects in space) and may have trouble learning math (geometry and arithmetic).

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/Turner_Syndrome.cfm
 
It has been numerous times that Haleigh's Turner's did not require "constant monitoring." Why is that issue forced every time an abduction is mentioned? It's not like she was on kidney dialysis or something that was life threatening w/o "constant monitoring."

Well, it was sure a huge issue to TN and Ron on Maury, in fact I think it was one of the first things they mentioned about the child they would not name-
jmo
 
Well, it was sure a huge issue to TN and Ron on Maury, in fact I think it was one of the first things they mentioned about the child they would not name-
jmo

It was the only thing, except the new babydoll and favorite pillow that no one has ever seen or heard about before.
 
It has been numerous times that Haleigh's Turner's did not require "constant monitoring." Why is that issue forced every time an abduction is mentioned? It's not like she was on kidney dialysis or something that was life threatening w/o "constant monitoring."

SNIP~

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/Turner_Syndrome.cfm

The theory is vaguely stated that Haleigh could be with family that would monitor her Turner's. That theory continues to bring up her health as a means of making sure Haleigh is taken care of, and ties in a family member to do so.

I think it is a valid question to ask about a theory that can logically string it together. How is her health and education being taken care of? Online education was the answer for one. How is her health going to be handled? How is it possible for someone to be playing with other children and not seen by anyone?

Who is the family member? Where would she be kept?
 
I asked that a few pages back. I got fluff..... I worked hard on my theory, I tried to explain and back up with time, and distance of drives and as much as I could to support the theory. I think it needs to be done with the secreted away theory. If it holds water, then if should be sleuthed. JMO LE is not looking in this direction for a reason.

If it is NOT a stranger abduction is it:

A person who knew Haleigh, thus not a stranger abduction as in neighbor, family, friends...

Or is it an accident? That is not a stranger abduction. Is LE using semantics?

Draining ponds is not a family abduction.

I agree Bern draining ponds is not a family abduction but Law Enforcement were pretty specific when they described what they were doing and why they were doing it, while draining the pond.

Media release from LT Greenwood here:http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/mediarelease1.pdf

snip~The current search is the result of one of the over 4000 tips received in this case. The Putnam
County Sheriff’s has received information that there is possible physical evidence~ end snip


Law Enforcement would be remiss not to investigate a tip.
 
The theory is vaguely stated that Haleigh could be with family that would monitor her Turner's. That theory continues to bring up her health as a means of making sure Haleigh is taken care of, and ties in a family member to do so.

I think it is a valid question to ask about a theory that can logically string it together. How is her health and education being taken care of? Online education was the answer for one. How is her health going to be handled? How is it possible for someone to be playing with other children and not seen by anyone?

Who is the family member? Where would she be kept?

Well, did Ron say that a little 5 year old girl told him she talks to her and shes with someone named Larry? I wonder if LE have questioned this girl?
 
Well, did Ron say that a little 5 year old girl told him she talks to her and shes with someone named Larry? I wonder if LE have questioned this girl?

Let's work with that...who in the family has a 5 year old little girl?
 
Let's work with that...who in the family has a 5 year old little girl?

Yeah, from what I heard, the little girl who told him this is a friend of Rons- It boggles the mind that Ron Cummings would even relay this tale by this 5 year old child, when he totally dismissed what his child who was in the trailer that night had to say about a man in black and labeled it garbage-
 
Yeah, from what I heard, the little girl who told him this is a friend of Rons- It boggles the mind that Ron Cummings would even relay this tale by this 5 year old child, when he totally dismissed what his child who was in the trailer that night had to say about a man in black and labeled it garbage-

Supposing it was a family abduction, or any kind of abduction, how would he know that the story about a man in black is garbage anyway? I hear that people who engage in nefarious deeds in the dark of night frequently wear dark clothes.
 
The theory is vaguely stated that Haleigh could be with family that would monitor her Turner's. That theory continues to bring up her health as a means of making sure Haleigh is taken care of, and ties in a family member to do so.

I think it is a valid question to ask about a theory that can logically string it together. How is her health and education being taken care of? Online education was the answer for one. How is her health going to be handled? How is it possible for someone to be playing with other children and not seen by anyone?

Who is the family member? Where would she be kept?
Children are victims of custodial/parental abductions (not speaking of Haleigh) everyday. Some of these children are kept "hidden" for years. Some are never returned to the lawful parent. Where do they go to school, or play w/ kids or get medical care? People are making it seem if a family abduction would be the hardest thing to pull off next to a robbery of Ft. Knox. It's just not so, custodial/parental abduction is the most common thing that happens in these type cases.

And I have said this many, many times too, most people are not looking for Haleigh. I work in a building w/ about 120 other people, I can guarentee you, Haleigh could walk in this building, heck, stay here all day long and NO ONE here would recognize her except me and MAYBE 1 other person (but only because I talk to him about this case.) And the majority of these are LEO and EMS workers. Unless the person is keeping her in Satsuma or surrounding areas, MOST people are not going to recognize her as a missing child. :twocents:
 
Yeah, from what I heard, the little girl who told him this is a friend of Rons- It boggles the mind that Ron Cummings would even relay this tale by this 5 year old child, when he totally dismissed what his child who was in the trailer that night had to say about a man in black and labeled it garbage-
Do you have a link to this?
 
Yeah, from what I heard, the little girl who told him this is a friend of Rons- It boggles the mind that Ron Cummings would even relay this tale by this 5 year old child, when he totally dismissed what his child who was in the trailer that night had to say about a man in black and labeled it garbage-

Well, that won't work in a family abduction theory. It needs to have the 5 year old as someone's child. I guess Larry is safe, for now.

But it is troubling that nearly every Cummings/Neves/Sykes person dismissed what Jr had to say about that night; instead determining that he was coerced into saying it to the authorities. Worse yet, then they accused Crsytal of endangering her son by having him on Craig Rivera's show.

Felt more like trying to discredit the witness than anything else. But now we've seen that in action, with what Neves did to Misty, and looks like Ron was in on that too.
 
Supposing it was a family abduction, or any kind of abduction, how would he know that the story about a man in black is garbage anyway? I hear that people who engage in nefarious deeds in the dark of night frequently wear dark clothes.

Then on top of all of this, if I even heard my 6 year old child was with some man named Larry, I just dont think I could be ok, meaning, I dont think I would be able to shut up about it, it would freak me out that my little girl is with a man- I would have been on NG everytime she had me on pleading for information about this man, I would have been out everyday of my life searching and putting up posters and whatnot, if someone actually told me this, I mean what was the point of Ronald even mentioning this?
 
I asked that a few pages back. I got fluff..... I worked hard on my theory, I tried to explain and back up with time, and distance of drives and as much as I could to support the theory. I think it needs to be done with the secreted away theory. If it holds water, then if should be sleuthed. JMO LE is not looking in this direction for a reason.

If it is NOT a stranger abduction is it:

A person who knew Haleigh, thus not a stranger abduction as in neighbor, family, friends...

Or is it an accident? That is not a stranger abduction. Is LE using semantics?

Draining ponds is not a family abduction.


LE also searched the Griffis/Sheffield property, which was bizarre imo, but clearly not an accident or stranger abduction theory behind that search imo

There is a huge open area in the timeline, not sure how one can pinpoint at what time HaLeigh was abducted, and the drive would have to be to x suspect, I don't know which place she was driven to first. So I can't add to those 2 parts, and I don't think my theory is fluff, and while I disagree with others theories I wouldn't call them fluff. JMO
 
LE also searched the Griffis/Sheffield property, which was bizarre imo, but clearly not an accident or stranger abduction theory behind that search imo

There is a huge open area in the timeline, not sure how one can pinpoint at what time HaLeigh was abducted, and the drive would have to be to x suspect, I don't know which place she was driven to first. So I can't add to those 2 parts, and I don't think my theory is fluff, and while I disagree with others theories I wouldn't call them fluff. JMO

Well, when the cops were tearing up the land at the farm, and digging up dead horses and whatnot, how could anyone think they were looking for a live child at that point?
 
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