Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh ? #5

[Donjeta]

How long does it take to cremate a person?

 

[Emeralgem]

How long does it take to cremate a person?

Donjeta, average weighted person.. 1400 - 1800 degrees... 2 to 2 1/2 hours.

Information here.. hopefully I copied it correctly..

www.nfda.org/planning-a-funeral/cremation/160.html

 

[bessie]

Emeralgem, I remember that incident. It made national news. I remembered it immediately when the discussion started here this morning about the funeral home.

 

[Kimster]

Sure wish we could discuss some of the old rumors.

New Rules on Sex Offenders and Rumors. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

The second part of Tricia's post here is our stance on rumors.

If you want to discuss it, please contact Tricia.

ETA: This was written before the closing of the HC rumor thread. It now applies to all rumors on all cases.

 

[twall]

Still haven't found video yet, but here's another brief excerpt from article dated

Watts said less than $5,000 has been given to the Haleigh Cummings Relief Fund at Bank of America. The bank will not provide information on the account, citing privacy reasons.

Supporting the family

Less than $1,000 has been spent on the insurance and other bills, Watts said. Set up by the bank under rules outlined by Florida law, money from the account cannot be used in support of Haleigh's mother because she was not living in the house at the time of the disappearance.

Watts, who goes to the church Cummings attends, knew him from landscape work Cummings did at Watts Funeral Home in nearby San Mateo.

Watts said any withdrawals from the account must be approved by him and be used for a specific bill and certain expenses. In the past week and a half, donations have trickled off, he said.

Since the beginning only a handful of small checks came from out of state, with most of the money coming from within Putnam County.

A local church placed donation jars in the area and donated to the account.

"The lady didn't know what to do with it," Watts said. He said he told the church he could only accept money for Cummings. He did not know if some of the cash went to Sheffield...

Cummings' grandmother, Annette Sykes, said the family kept a journal of donations.

"We wrote the names and addresses down," she said.

After money in the Cummings account is no longer needed, the remainder will be sent to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Watts said.[/I]

(cont'd at link)

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/..._contributes_to_haleigh_cummings_family_funds
arrot:

I wonder if this ever happened? IMO, no.

The timing of Haleigh's disappearance has always bothered me-hearing the AA the same day as Caylee's memorial service. Rumors had already started flying about the A's having Caylee's remains cremated and wearing her ashes in jewerly made specifically for that purpose. Now reading about the cremation theory has my radar up. Has anyone noticed any of Haleigh's family members wearing any jewelry like this? Just a thought.

 

[tehcloser]

New Rules on Sex Offenders and Rumors. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

The second part of Tricia's post here is our stance on rumors.

If you want to discuss it, please contact Tricia.

ETA: This was written before the closing of the HC rumor thread. It now applies to all rumors on all cases.

From Tricia's post..........

If you are a local and you have heard a rumor that is not ridiculous post it clearly as a rumor.
I won't check if you say you are a local. This is different than saying you know the family.

If this doesn't work out because people start relying on rumors or repeating rumors as fact we will change it back.

If anyone has any questions go ahead and ask me, PM me or email me at [email protected]


So locals, anything floating around?

 

[Beatrice]

IMO...Whatever happened to Haleigh involves drugs.

Either accidentally or deliberately.

Based on Ronald's "I'll kill him" threat....Ronald/Misty owed someone money.
The reason why Misty waited for Ronald before getting the okay to call 911.
Misty is reasonably calm on the phone because she knows the abductor.

When she says, "What do you expect from a 17 year old?" Is she referring to her family....Hank Sr. and Lisa.

Wouldn't they be the "king pins" in all this?

 

[SoSueMe]

I have never thought a drug dealer took Haleigh as payback for a drug deal or to teach Ron a lesson. For one thing, she was never found dead. THAT would have sent Ron a clear message. It would have also told him to worry about his other child too.

If it was a druggie, then I think it would be someone who is into pedophilia and/or sold her. I can't buy into this theory, but that's just me.

 

[Emeralgem]

IMO...Whatever happened to Haleigh involves drugs.

Either accidentally or deliberately.

Based on Ronald's "I'll kill him" threat....Ronald/Misty owed someone money.
The reason why Misty waited for Ronald before getting the okay to call 911.
Misty is reasonably calm on the phone because she knows the abductor.
When she says, "What do you expect from a 17 year old?" Is she referring to her family....Hank Sr. and Lisa?

IMHO..The threats, the abduction story was staged.. There has never been an abductor..

Also, the man who was administering the LVA test basicallly told her the machine was revealing she wasn't telling him the truth...
She got upset, and asked him .."What do you expect from a 17 year old?"

 

[Beatrice]

That's not the way I interpreted Misty's comment. I took it as she is covering for someone.

Anyone know what time Misty called Tommy that night? TIA

 

[ladonna]

IMHO..The threats, the abduction story was staged.. There has never been an abductor..

Also, the man who was administering the LVA test basicallly told her the machine was revealing that she wasn't telling him the truth...
She got upset, and asked him .."What do you expect from a 17 year old?"

What intriques me is Misty pulls out the naive 17 yr old excuse when it benefits her. Yet at 16/17 she thought she had the maturity to first move in with a 25 yr old who was the primary caretaker of two kids, and then had the good sense to marry him.Kinda like the Twinkie defense if you ask me.

 

[lonetraveler]

From Tricia's post..........

If you are a local and you have heard a rumor that is not ridiculous post it clearly as a rumor.
I won't check if you say you are a local. This is different than saying you know the family.

If this doesn't work out because people start relying on rumors or repeating rumors as fact we will change it back.

If anyone has any questions go ahead and ask me, PM me or email me at [email protected]


So locals, anything floating around?

I surely hope that the locals come back and let us know what is being discussed in this area. Locals always know more than the average bear. Would love to hear from you.

 

[Beatrice]

I have never thought a drug dealer took Haleigh as payback for a drug deal or to teach Ron a lesson. For one thing, she was never found dead. THAT would have sent Ron a clear message. It would have also told him to worry about his other child too.

If it was a druggie, then I think it would be someone who is into pedophilia and/or sold her. I can't buy into this theory, but that's just me.

I wonder why all 4 were sleeping in the same room.....

 

[Concerned Papa]

I'm trying to figure something out. How old do you think Haleigh was in this picture?

 

[watchinginky]

I'm trying to figure something out. How old do you think Haleigh was in this picture?

My guess would be between 3-4 years old. I have a 3 year old and she looks to be about the same size, judging by her height next to the sink and her facial features.

 

[Donjeta]

Is your child average height, Watchinginky? Haleigh seems to have been rather short for her age, due to the Turner's I suppose. The Amber alert lists her height at 5 years as 3 feet

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_height_of_a_5-year-old_girl

What is the average height of a 5-year-old girl?


Answer
The AVERAGE five year old is about 3'6" but several inches either side of this is NORMAL dpending on the height of her parents. "

 

[Concerned Papa]

Does Haleigh seem to be reasonably close to the same age in these two pictures? I'm trying to determine approximately when the picture on the right could have been taken. The one on the left is from her 5th birthday.

 

[Baxter]

Does Haleigh seem to be reasonably close to the same age in these two pictures? I'm trying to determine approximately when the picture on the right could have been taken. The one on the left is from her 5th birthday.

I think she looks younger (by a year?) on the right.

 

[lil momma]

Does Haleigh seem to be reasonably close to the same age in these two pictures? I'm trying to determine approximately when the picture on the right could have been taken. The one on the left is from her 5th birthday.

IMO, the one on the right looks like she just turned 4, like a young four. She looks much older on the pic on the left than the one on the right, to me. JMO

 

[doobiedoo52]

I'm trying to figure something out. How old do you think Haleigh was in this picture?

In all honesty I think she could be 2 1/2 or 3. My grandson is about that size and my daughter had hair that long at that age--she just looks quite immature to me but with lots of hair.

Oops there's jr next to her--i'm guessing she's 3 and he's 2 maybe????