Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh ? #5

[Searchfortruth]

Have Katrina or any of TN's other relatives (besides her mother) come out and spoken in Ron's defense ? I don't know if TN has other sisters ? I haven't heard much from them, but maybe I've missed it.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

It was said the LE found "Blankets" outside the back door. They never said anything else though. But blankets were found at the MH that morning. I had posted the article and link at the blanket thread. I don't have it handy right now. Sorry.

If they used the scent off of blankets off the bed for the dogs, heck they could have been following Ron.

 

[ella971]

You guys are gonna hate this question...How can I listen to the 911 call again? Please forgive me! Thanks in advance.

 

[Searchfortruth]

You guys are gonna hate this question...How can I listen to the 911 call again? Please forgive me! Thanks in advance.

Here you go Ella...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/11/missing.florida.girl/index.html#cnnSTCOther1

 

[lonetraveler]

I will back later but I want to throw this thought out there concerning rc and what he was doing on Feb 9. Some say he was working for Katrina that day in some form either collecting payment or lawn service or cutting down trees. Katrina has to own some large equipment/ vehicles for her business. Did her dd ever help her run the business? Did rc have keys and access to these vehicles? I wonder how large a role rc actually played in this business. It was also listed she had a glass tinting service also.

Misty said she and ron slept till about noon on Monday and then he got up and got ready for work. If anything she said is true, did she mean Katrina's Tree Cutting Service. I never thought of that before...I just thought misty was leaving a lot of time blank...IDK..

I remember the info out about Ron trying to collect on treework but did not get any money because he had not completed the work. Misty has also given out different stories about her activities that Monday. She told WBG that she was visiting her father at the hospital but wanted to see him later. Then theres the trip to GGMS house to get Haleigh's favorite outfit and Misty taking Haleigh to her classroom, then lying around in bed with Ron and then staying with Jr. so that Ron could pick up Haleigh from school. With these two there are various multiple choice answers for every occasion.

 

[ella971]

Here you go Ella...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/11/missing.florida.girl/index.html#cnnSTCOther1

Thank You.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I made the mistake of listening to the 911 call again...the dispatcher is trying to find out Haleigh's birthdate, can't get the answer from Misty and finally Ron answers with "her birthdate is ya'll need to get the "f" out here". Weight is given as 40-60 pounds and height is given as "not very tall" by Misty. My Lord.

 

[lonetraveler]

All of Ron's family members appeared out of the woodwork when Geraldo got in his face. Ron's sister has been interviewed a couple of times. I haven't seen anything from Eliza, is that the name of the "nurse" who accompanied GGMS on her laundry delivery service? Then there was Ron's Uncle who made a comment like, "you don't rat out family" or something to that effect. Then there's Miz Nancy.......a solid supporter of Ron, no, wait, she's not family, she just wants to adopt him........:innocent:

 

[debs]

I will back later but I want to throw this thought out there concerning rc and what he was doing on Feb 9. Some say he was working for Katrina that day in some form either collecting payment or lawn service or cutting down trees. Katrina has to own some large equipment/ vehicles for her business. Did her dd ever help her run the business? Did rc have keys and access to these vehicles? I wonder how large a role rc actually played in this business. It was also listed she had a glass tinting service also.

Misty said she and ron slept till about noon on Monday and then he got up and got ready for work. If anything she said is true, did she mean Katrina's Tree Cutting Service. I never thought of that before...I just thought misty was leaving a lot of time blank...IDK..

Misty never mentions Ronald actually leaving for work until she relays that Ronald brought Haleigh home from the bus stop and she stayed at the MH because Jr was taking a nap. So ....... I still have no idea whether Misty was talking about that rumored tree service job, or PDM.

 

[ella971]

I made the mistake of listening to the 911 call again...the dispatcher is trying to find out Haleigh's birthdate, can't get the answer from Misty and finally Ron answers with "her birthdate is ya'll need to get the "f" out here". Weight is given as 40-60 pounds and height is given as "not very tall" by Misty. My Lord.

I have Sony professional headphones on listening again. You can hear him in the background talking and walking.Hanging up? Better people to talk to?

 

[Tricia]

Thanks Whisperer for this info. I'm trying to get caught up for Levi's show in a few moments.

Do you have a link about the employee overhearing Ron telling Misty to whip haleigh? I think this is extremely telling.

Through an employee at PDM, ron did give instruction for misty to "WHIP" haleigh. ron stated she needs to know when to go to bed.

Harsh discipline may have been routine in this house. It may have gone overboard. OR misty may have lost it and drowned her or gave her meds to got to sleep. I doubt the second scenario because that would indicate haleigh may have been in the house....if so, there would be evidence if Haleigh was deceased longer than a few minutes. So far the only explanation I can come up with (if she indeed died in the house) would be drowning or drugs but she was taken elsewhere when given them. She could have been beat but there is no blood in the house. I would think a neighbor would have heard a scuffle if r * m got loud. Did something occur before 7:00pm? At some point Haleigh either walked or was carried out that back door...according to the tracking dogs.

 

[doobiedoo52]

I'm a little confused about the school attendance record. It is exactly the same type as we used to receive here for our kids' attendance. I honestly do not see any over explanation of what attendance is. Am I missing something. I just looked at the stickies again to view it and still do not see anything strange about it. Anyone care to point it out to me? TIA

 

[Searchfortruth]

I have Sony professional headphones on listening again. You can hear him in the background talking and walking.Hanging up? Better people to talk to?

Yeah, I can't imagine who would be better to talk to than the police, when your child is missing.

 

[ella971]

Jr. I thought he said he saw a man in his room? I can believe anything can happen.I'm trying to go at it at ever angle in my mind.

 

[lonetraveler]

Thanks Whisperer for this info. I'm trying to get caught up for Levi's show in a few moments.

Do you have a link about the employee overhearing Ron telling Misty to whip haleigh? I think this is extremely telling.

Trish, I'm not Whisperer but I had just read the Art Harris article about that same thing if you want to read it:

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/

 

[Whisperer]

I'm a little confused about the school attendance record. It is exactly the same type as we used to receive here for our kids' attendance. I honestly do not see any over explanation of what attendance is. Am I missing something. I just looked at the stickies again to view it and still do not see anything strange about it. Anyone care to point it out to me? TIA

Hi Doobie.
As I recall the "U" appeared altered and changed to a dot.

The attendance record looked as if were a carbon form. If you look at it, somebody typed in explanations. One of them said present and not late. This stood out to me as I have never seen anything worded like that. There is a T for tardy and no need to explain that somebody was there AND on time. To me it appeared like over explaining the obvious.

The typing from a typewriter added to the carbon type appeared to want to explain overly well to people/parents or the media that the child was not late on any day that has a dot.

I could be overly analyzing this..I realize that, but this is the way I look at the copy given to the public. I see no reason for the typing (which was an addition) added to the record.

Between the altered "U" and the additional typing, I am suspicious. I could be totally off on this as it could be nit-picking in my part.

 

[twall]

I sure would like to see the phone records for Ron and the times he made the 20+ calls to Misty when she did not answer. And the time he made them, especially the last one and where it pinged from.
I believe she was with a member of his family and was told to turn her phone off so it could not be traced and her whereabouts be known. Ron then called to set her up, making it look like she was not home but he did not know that.
I am not giving much credence to the drug od theory, unless it was accidental.
If that was the case it would be too easy for Ron to blame Misty, saying she did it all on her own, denying he told her to do it and having her take complete responsibility.

JMO

 

[Whisperer]

One thing that runs consistent through this sage is reference to a urine smell in a blanket. Misty shows total disgust when she mentions this. She also has the same facial expression when she mentions kitchen/light.

Her explanation doesn't add up about it however; she tells us that she believes the blanket was soiled prior to that night.

She tells that she noticed it when she put Haliegh to bed. Misty and ron spent at least four hours in that room sleeping, talking all morning. The mattress is four feet away and I would think you would notice the smell....maybe not.

How do you think ron and misty would handle bed-wetting in a child?

 

[Whisperer]

I sure would like to see the phone records for Ron and the times he made the 20+ calls to Misty when she did not answer. And the time he made them, especially the last one and where it pinged from.
I believe she was with a member of his family and was told to turn her phone off so it could not be traced and her whereabouts be known. Ron then called to set her up, making it look like she was not home but he did not know that.
I am not giving much credence to the drug od theory, unless it was accidental.
If that was the case it would be too easy for Ron to blame Misty, saying she did it all on her own, denying he told her to do it and having her take complete responsibility.

JMO

I am very surprised rc has not just flat out blamed misty. He either was involved or he is crazy with obsession about not getting any flack or looking bad or responsible. He would rather have Haleigh be abducted than for anyone to think he has poor judgment and is not a good father, even if misty is responsible. He could be that sick.

 

[Pondering Mind]

At the end of the article it list all the sources. Some of them I take with a grain of salt.

Doc, If I'm not mistaken, associated content pays by the # of hits that the article gets (or something like that, lol!) The articles there are usually very interesting but their authors do need to do a better job at their fact finding, KWIM?