Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh ? #5

[Indiana at Heart]

Plant City: Neighbors noticed some activity there last March....

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132714&catid=3

thats about RC

 

[Baznme]

Plant City: Neighbors noticed some activity there last March....

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132714&catid=3

I'm not getting what you're referring to?

 

[Beatrice]

Last March, Ronald was in Pinellas Park getting a tattoo...

Had he passed through Plant City on the way to Pinellas Park?

 

[Baznme]

Last March, Ronald was in Pinellas Park getting a tattoo...

Had he passed through Plant City on the way to Pinellas Park?

Yes, why?

 

[dodie20]

Speaking of that tattoo, it really creeped me out. It felt like a memorial because he knew she was dead. It was like that was the only way he could express his love & sorrow? to her & a way to give her some substance-to make her less not there & a way to alleviate guilt. When this is all over, I fully expect him to add RIP & some dates.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Yes, why?

Some remains were found there, they have not Id's who's though. All skeletal. Neighbor said that last March he seen a tarp out there and just thought it was some homeless person living out there.

 

[sunsetbeach]

Some remains were found there, they have not Id's who's though. All skeletal. Neighbor said that last March he seen a tarp out there and just thought it was some homeless person living out there.

reposting your link.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/02/021959/human-remains-found-plant-city/news-breaking/

 

[Baznme]

reposting your link.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/02/021959/human-remains-found-plant-city/news-breaking/

It wasn't Haleigh...........thank God!

http://plantcity2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/04/remains-missing-hcc-student-found-woods/news/

 

[Emeralgem]

Just thinking here in regards to a few things we have learned recently... TN wanted Misty to babysit that Monday night, and from what Lindsey has stated TN even offered to pay her...From what I can figure out seems she was also asked on Sunday but refused finally agreeing to babysit free of charge on Monday night IF it was ok with Ron C.

TN has stated on national tv Ron and Misty were up all of Sunday night working through and solving their problems...Right now I'm thinking IF what TN stated about Sunday night was true there would have been no need for TN to call Misty on Monday and offer to pay her to babysit.
Am also wondering if TN took it upon herself to tell Misty it would be ok without checking with Ron C.
Witnesses have stated Misty picked up Haleigh, and it has also been stated Ron C showed up at the bus stop right after Misty drove off in the opposite direction...

I am thinking he was furious Misty picked up Haleigh and drove off in the opposite direction of the MH and he went after her...I maintain my stance whatever happened to Haleigh occurred whenever and wherever it was he caught up with Misty...JMO

 

[dodie20]

Just thinking here in regards to a few things we have learned recently... TN wanted Misty to babysit that Monday night, and from what Lindsey has stated TN even offered to pay her...From what I can figure out seems she was also asked on Sunday but refused finally agreeing to babysit free of charge on Monday night IF it was ok with Ron C.

TN has stated on national tv Ron and Misty were up all of Sunday night working through and solving their problems...Right now I'm thinking IF what TN stated about Sunday night was true there would have been no need for TN to call Misty on Monday and offer to pay her to babysit.
Am also wondering if TN took it upon herself to tell Misty it would be ok without checking with Ron C.
Witnesses have stated Misty picked up Haleigh, and it has also been stated Ron C showed up at the bus stop right after Misty drove off in the opposite direction...

I am thinking he was furious Misty picked up Haleigh and drove off in the opposite direction of the MH and he went after her...I maintain my stance whatever happened to Haleigh occurred whenever and wherever it was he caught up with Misty...JMO

You could be right. As many variations as we've been told about who picked up Haleigh, you can bet it has something to do with what happened.

 

[watchinginky]

Just thinking here in regards to a few things we have learned recently... TN wanted Misty to babysit that Monday night, and from what Lindsey has stated TN even offered to pay her...From what I can figure out seems she was also asked on Sunday but refused finally agreeing to babysit free of charge on Monday night IF it was ok with Ron C.

TN has stated on national tv Ron and Misty were up all of Sunday night working through and solving their problems...Right now I'm thinking IF what TN stated about Sunday night was true there would have been no need for TN to call Misty on Monday and offer to pay her to babysit.
Am also wondering if TN took it upon herself to tell Misty it would be ok without checking with Ron C.
Witnesses have stated Misty picked up Haleigh, and it has also been stated Ron C showed up at the bus stop right after Misty drove off in the opposite direction...

I am thinking he was furious Misty picked up Haleigh and drove off in the opposite direction of the MH and he went after her...I maintain my stance whatever happened to Haleigh occurred whenever and wherever it was he caught up with Misty...JMO

BBM

TN also contradicts herself if this is the case. If RC & Misty were up all night Sunday working through their problems, why the need for a babysitter? She's asking Misty to babysit Sunday night, but she was supposedly with Ron working out their problems Sunday night? Doesn't make sense.

ITA with your last paragraph. Very possible.

 

[dodie20]

We know that Misty went on that binger the weekend before, but we haven't heard much of what Ron did in those days. It has always been my opinion, that he didn't do much sleeping either. They reportedly had a big fight which led to her leaving, so I doubt he was in a good mood-or wanting to stay @ home with his family. I think he was pizzed!!!!!!

 

[Crosby87]

We know that Misty went on that binger the weekend before, but we haven't heard much of what Ron did in those days. It has always been my opinion, that he didn't do much sleeping either. They reportedly had a big fight which led to her leaving, so I doubt he was in a good mood-or wanting to stay @ home with his family. I think he was pizzed!!!!!!

IA Ron was pizzed and apparently he physically assaulted Misty when she told him she was pregnant. Too bad Misty forgot to mention that to TN when she called to ask for a "favor".

 

[Crosby87]

BBM

TN also contradicts herself if this is the case. If RC & Misty were up all night Sunday working through their problems, why the need for a babysitter? She's asking Misty to babysit Sunday night, but she was supposedly with Ron working out their problems Sunday night? Doesn't make sense.

ITA with your last paragraph. Very possible.

Ron and Misty were working out their problems! What an understatement. That takes longer than 1 night for Pete's sake. TN gave everyone the impression that R&M had been living happily together for several months yet this was only a façade.

According to Nay Nay, Misty spoke with Ronald over the weekend and agreed to meet up with him for a reason other than to babysit his children. Everyone was confused over Misty’s place in Ron’s family Monday evening so I’m not surprised that Misty didn’t know “what was what” in Ron’s house that night.

Did TN set something up to happen at 202 Greene Lane Monday night and she needed Misty there for an unknown reason.? If Misty was at Ron’s on Greene Lane Monday evening to “babysit only”, why was she prepared to sleep with Ron? I suspect Misty felt unwanted by Ron that evening and she was confused and not of sound mind.

 

[Crosby87]

Although Misty is now 18, she still thinks and acts like a baby, pouting and crying, demanding to be fed more, she is a spoiled child who consistently throws tantrums to be sure she is heard and gets what she wants. And she swears, how could TN want her around her grandchildren? Misty is a spoiled child and she doesn’t know how to behave as an adult so she shouldn’t be alone and in charge of children. When Misty whined to her mother that she wanted out NOW and REAL BAD, her mother said her gmma was sending her some money to avoid discussing the consequences of her behavior with her. Misty told the truth about herself when she said “What do you expect from me, I’m just 17”. No doubt about it, Misty is a master manipulator who said if Cobra gets her out of jail she will tell him something. These people want everything now; Misty wants out of jail now, Tommy wants out of jail now, Ron wants LE to his place now, Lindsy wants to be gone yesterday. During Misty’s conversation with Chelsea, Chelsea told Misty she didn’t do anything wrong by giving a guy a pill to make him better and I suspect Misty believed her too.

Ron kicked Misty out of the house after a fight and told her never to come back so if Misty fought with HaLeigh, I think she would want her out of the house NOW and call her brothers for help.
I don’t believe Misty fell asleep at Ron’s and I believe stronger than ever that she harmed HaLeigh because her mind is so messed up and anything HaLeigh would want would irritate and upset her.

 

[dodie20]

Although Misty is now 18, she still thinks and acts like a baby, pouting and crying, demanding to be fed more, she is a spoiled child who consistently throws tantrums to be sure she is heard and gets what she wants. And she swears, how could TN want her around her grandchildren? Misty is a spoiled child and she doesn’t know how to behave as an adult so she shouldn’t be alone and in charge of children. When Misty whined to her mother that she wanted out NOW and REAL BAD, her mother said her gmma was sending her some money to avoid discussing the consequences of her behavior with her. Misty told the truth about herself when she said “What do you expect from me, I’m just 17”. No doubt about it, Misty is a master manipulator who said if Cobra gets her out of jail she will tell him something. These people want everything now; Misty wants out of jail now, Tommy wants out of jail now, Ron wants LE to his place now, Lindsy wants to be gone yesterday. During Misty’s conversation with Chelsea, Chelsea told Misty she didn’t do anything wrong by giving a guy a pill to make him better and I suspect Misty believed her too.

Ron kicked Misty out of the house after a fight and told her never to come back so if Misty fought with HaLeigh, I think she would want her out of the house NOW and call her brothers for help.
I don’t believe Misty fell asleep at Ron’s and I believe stronger than ever that she harmed HaLeigh because her mind is so messed up and anything HaLeigh would want would irritate and upset her.

I agree with a lot of your post, but logically, I don't think she killed Haleigh. I could see Ron covering for her, but not Teresa. Also, I think Misty really liked Haleigh & enjoyed being around her. She seemed proud of her. Also, I think she got a kick out of helping Ron raise her-kind of a side swipe @ Ron's ex. She even wanted Amber's baby, remember? Having the kids seemed to make her feel important. & I have to admit, after all of this happened, her sadness for Haleigh was the only one I really believed. It could've been out of sobering up & regretting her actions, like an 'oh, God, I didn't mean it, please take it back,' kind of thing, but if it was? I fell for it. I didn't fall for Ron's drama, @ all.

 

[legalmania]

I agree with a lot of your post, but logically, I don't think she killed Haleigh. I could see Ron covering for her, but not Teresa. Also, I think Misty really liked Haleigh & enjoyed being around her. She seemed proud of her. Also, I think she got a kick out of helping Ron raise her-kind of a side swipe @ Ron's ex. She even wanted Amber's baby, remember? Having the kids seemed to make her feel important. & I have to admit, after all of this happened, her sadness for Haleigh was the only one I really believed. It could've been out of sobering up & regretting her actions, like an 'oh, God, I didn't mean it, please take it back,' kind of thing, but if it was? I fell for it. I didn't fall for Ron's drama, @ all.

CSI was in the trailer for a long time. They took samples of everything. I haven't heard much of anything being found. Did anybody hear of any blood dna or chemicals or even one pill? It's not unusual to drop a pill here and there. So I think whatever happened to Haleigh happened outside that trailer.

 

[raisincharlie]

CSI was in the trailer for a long time. They took samples of everything. I haven't heard much of anything being found. Did anybody hear of any blood dna or chemicals or even one pill? It's not unusual to drop a pill here and there. So I think whatever happened to Haleigh happened outside that trailer.

Regarding the pills/drugs - at a presser Sheriff Hardy was asked if drugs were found in the house. His answer was not no, just that charges would be addressed later after Haleigh was found. LE has never confirmed if anything of any evidentiary value was found in the home. JMO it is probably a reasonable conclusion that blood probably was not as LE has maintained they have been searching for a live Haleigh. They have also said this was not a stranger abduction. Combine those statements and IMO it is reasonable to assume that no conclusive evidence of a crime was found in the home as to what happened to Haleigh and also no evidence was found of a stranger entering the home either.

 

[Crosby87]

Was TN aware that Misty had been sexually molested and that JM was paying for the crime by doing jail time? Maybe someone connected to JM took Haleigh to get even with the Croslin Family.

Do we know anything about the circumstances surrounding Misty’s rape incident with JM. Did these sexual acts against Misty all occur in her home and was she ever sleeping and unable to defend herself against the perp?

If TN wasn’t told these intimate details about Misty’s life, how can she truly know if her granddaughter is safe in her care? By his own actions Ron is telling anyone who cares to know, that having sex with a child is okay so of course someone is going to want HaLeigh.

 

[Crosby87]

I agree with a lot of your post, but logically, I don't think she killed Haleigh. I could see Ron covering for her, but not Teresa. Also, I think Misty really liked Haleigh & enjoyed being around her. She seemed proud of her. Also, I think she got a kick out of helping Ron raise her-kind of a side swipe @ Ron's ex. She even wanted Amber's baby, remember? Having the kids seemed to make her feel important. & I have to admit, after all of this happened, her sadness for Haleigh was the only one I really believed. It could've been out of sobering up & regretting her actions, like an 'oh, God, I didn't mean it, please take it back,' kind of thing, but if it was? I fell for it. I didn't fall for Ron's drama, @ all.

Ron ordered Misty to whip HaLeigh in order to teach her a lesson and clearly this is not the proper way to raise a child because HaLeigh doesn’t have any say in what happens to her and her rights are violated. Children need a caregiver who is able to listen to them and communicate at their level so they can learn and adapt to their environment so they remain secure and safe. Haleigh was having problems at home with bedwetting because of inconsistent and improper care and Misty called Ron because she didn’t know how to respond to HaLeigh and provide the structure and emotional support she needed to master this urgent matter. Misty is rebellious and she unfortunately didn’t learn survival skills at home or at school so she is a victim who has nothing genuine to offer children and she isn’t qualified to babysit. If HaLeigh had no say at home with Ron and Misty and they couldn’t connect with her at her level and establish rapport with her, then we can't rule out either Ron or Misty as suspects until the truth comes out.