Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh ? #6

[Emeralgem]

I thought it wasn't clear whether they were in the courtroom at the same time, so how can it be clear she was mouthing "I love you" to Ron?

"Snip" http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...eads-drug-case


Misty Croslin appeared in court in a blue jail uniform and answered brief questions from the judge before her next pre-trial was set for June 3. Ronald Cummings was in the courtroom when she was brought in and the two glanced briefly at each other.

Croslin’s parents were in the audience, sitting separate from Cummings’ mother, sister and grandmother.

 

[debs]

Thanks, Eme.......

 

[Baznme]

I thought it wasn't clear whether they were in the courtroom at the same time, so how can it be clear she was mouthing "I love you" to Ron?

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-03-31/story/relative-haleigh-cummings-pleads-drug-case

From the article: "Misty Croslin appeared in court in a blue jail uniform and answered brief questions from the judge before her next pre-trial was set for June 3. Ronald Cummings was in the courtroom when she was brought in and the two glanced briefly at each other".



Just a wild guess on my part, but as I said....what do I know?

Who else would she bother to extend that message to in court?

 

[GhstTrkn]

I'm sorry...maybe it's just me but I just don't buy into the "she's under his spell" theory. I really don't know why but I'm really not. I don't believe he had anything to do with it...not saying he doesn't know something now but I don't think he did then. Maybe I just still feel sympathy for him because of the 911 call and maybe I'm just stupid but this is my opinion.

 

[elle1919]

I'm sorry...maybe it's just me but I just don't buy into the "she's under his spell" theory. I really don't know why but I'm really not. I don't believe he had anything to do with it...not saying he doesn't know something now but I don't think he did then. Maybe I just still feel sympathy for him because of the 911 call and maybe I'm just stupid but this is my opinion.

All opinions welcome!

I don't think Misty is "under his spell" either. I think she had a downright crappy life and hoped playing house with Ronald would be in her future. JMO as always. : )

 

[Baxter]

I'm sorry...maybe it's just me but I just don't buy into the "she's under his spell" theory. I really don't know why but I'm really not. I don't believe he had anything to do with it...not saying he doesn't know something now but I don't think he did then. Maybe I just still feel sympathy for him because of the 911 call and maybe I'm just stupid but this is my opinion.

Welcome. But I do disagree with you. I feel even in jail, Misty is still under his spell.
As she said to her mother, "Momma, I still love him".

 

[4Jacy]

All opinions welcome!

I don't think Misty is "under his spell" either. I think she had a downright crappy life and hoped playing house with Ronald would be in her future. JMO as always. : )

elle, I so agree with you. If she really had been in love with Ronald, that "weekend," the three way sex (if it's true) the drugs, booze, et al would never, never, ever have even happened.

My opinion, if this hadn't happened to Haleigh, I believe White Boy Page would be Misty's b/f now! She was so over-the-top about him when she saw his picture and when she met him. Just to let you all know, in any way do I think WBP had anything to do with this---at all!!!!!

 

[GhstTrkn]

Welcome. But I do disagree with you. I feel even in jail, Misty is still under his spell.
As she said to her mother, "Momma, I still love him".

To me, her saying that she still loves him doesn't have to mean that he has her under his spell. Maybe in her sick twisted mind (imo) she does love him. And, if my opinion is correct and he did nothing wrong (as far as HC is concerned...i realize he has done wrong with tons of other stuff) and she is actually the one who did something with/to HC what reason would she have for not loving him? As far as I'm concerned...at least at this very moment...the only thing he's guilty of as far as HC is trusting MC to watch her. I know I'm not saying it exactly how I mean but you get the pic.

 

[Whisperer]

The only thing rc is guilty of is letting mc watch his children? His poor judgement about almost everything in his life is what led to Haleigh missing/dead.

Why would any sound person who is not involved or have kge marry the person who is the subject of an investigation?

Why would he lie for her every time. Why did he elude the LE for questions from the marriage in March to August when he was charged with assault? Why did he not make misty talk to them when they were urging her to come in. He and his family kept her close alright....so close they wouldn't let her out to talk to the authorities

He lied about drugs, who slept where that night. He also informed the media he passed the LDT with "flying colors" and added Misty passed hers too. Heck, misty didn't even say she was positive she passed at the point. He lied about the door, saying it was broke into...even saying they may have used a crowbar..wth? How stupid does he thing the people are that listen to him rant about that night?

I could go on but most already know the song. Ron is so much more guilty of just allowing her to watch Haleigh but that was the one that may have cost Haleigh's life.

I will agree that even if he wasn't directly involved, his behavior would be similar because it is all about ron and any action of misty would reflect on him. He and his family would desperately try to extinguish any fires that blow smoke around rc and they have done that. The one thing that amazes me is misty got to continue living.

It is reasonable to assume that rc has kge if not directly involved in his own daughter's death.

 

[lonetraveler]

"Snip" http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...eads-drug-case


Misty Croslin appeared in court in a blue jail uniform and answered brief questions from the judge before her next pre-trial was set for June 3. Ronald Cummings was in the courtroom when she was brought in and the two glanced briefly at each other.

Croslin’s parents were in the audience, sitting separate from Cummings’ mother, sister and grandmother.

Yuck, this makes for a real "Hallmark" moment.

 

[GhstTrkn]

The only thing rc is guilty of is letting mc watch his children? His poor judgement about almost everything in his life is what led to Haleigh missing/dead.

Why would any sound person who is not involved or have kge marry the person who is the subject of an investigation?

Why would he lie for her every time. Why did he elude the LE for questions from the marriage in March to August when he was charged with assault? Why did he not make misty talk to them when they were urging her to come in. He and his family kept her close alright....so close they wouldn't let her out to talk to the authorities

He lied about drugs, who slept where that night. He also informed the media he passed the LDT with "flying colors" and added Misty passed hers too. Heck, misty didn't even say she was positive she passed at the point. He lied about the door, saying it was broke into...even saying they may have used a crowbar..wth? How stupid does he thing the people are that listen to him rant about that night?

I could go on but most already know the song. Ron is so much more guilty of just allowing her to watch Haleigh but that was the one that may have cost Haleigh's life.

I will agree that even if he wasn't directly involved, his behavior would be similar because it is all about ron and any action of misty would reflect on him. He and his family would desperately try to extinguish any fires that blow smoke around rc and they have done that. The one thing that amazes me is misty got to continue living.

It is reasonable to assume that rc has kge if not directly involved in his own daughter's death.

Yeah see, I knew I wasn't saying what I meant correctly. When I said that the only thing I think he is guilty of as far as HC is concerned...I meant just that.....I do however believe that because he trusted her his daughter is gone (missing, murdered...whatever the case may be) I'm really not trying to get anyone feathers ruffled with my opinion because that's just what it is...my opinion. I did say I realize that he is guilty of a lot of things though...I do realize that. I'm not even saying that he doesn't know what happened to Haleigh...now...but my opinion is that I don't think he did THEN (though I don't understand if he knows something now why he isn't talking...assuming he had nothing to do with it of course). One other reason that I believe that he didn't have anything to do with her going missing is because of his alibi...was he not at work? I mean that would have been really easy to check out...I know they did...just saying how easy it would have been. Did I miss something on that? I mean I assume he doesn't work where he works alone....did people come forward and say he wasn't there at some point during his shift? I really don't know. I don't remember that happening but maybe I did miss something. Also, what reason would he have for wanting her gone...and her alone (and not junior too) This I guess I just can't understand...or maybe I don't want to understand. I have a 15 month old son and I can't imagine my husband doing something horrible like this to him. I see the love his daddy has for him (and vice versa) and maybe I just think every dad (and mom) has that exact feeling for their child. I know this isn't the case but it's still really hard to fathom. Like I said, these are all just my opinions and I have no desire to offend anyone.

 

[Baxter]

Yeah see, I knew I wasn't saying what I meant correctly. When I said that the only thing I think he is guilty of as far as HC is concerned...I meant just that.....I do however believe that because he trusted her his daughter is gone (missing, murdered...whatever the case may be) I'm really not trying to get anyone feathers ruffled with my opinion because that's just what it is...my opinion. I did say I realize that he is guilty of a lot of things though...I do realize that. I'm not even saying that he doesn't know what happened to Haleigh...now...but my opinion is that I don't think he did THEN (though I don't understand if he knows something now why he isn't talking...assuming he had nothing to do with it of course). One other reason that I believe that he didn't have anything to do with her going missing is because of his alibi...was he not at work? I mean that would have been really easy to check out...I know they did...just saying how easy it would have been. Did I miss something on that? I mean I assume he doesn't work where he works alone....did people come forward and say he wasn't there at some point during his shift? I really don't know. I don't remember that happening but maybe I did miss something. Also, what reason would he have for wanting her gone...and her alone (and not junior too) This I guess I just can't understand...or maybe I don't want to understand. I have a 15 month old son and I can't imagine my husband doing something horrible like this to him. I see the love his daddy has for him (and vice versa) and maybe I just think every dad (and mom) has that exact feeling for their child. I know this isn't the case but it's still really hard to fathom. Like I said, these are all just my opinions and I have no desire to offend anyone.

Accidents happen. Then the cover up began. IMO

 

[Concerned Papa]

Wow, just got through reading here that Hope S might be a stripper, Donna B might be a ho, and Misty wants to join the choir.

Tough to get your mind wrapped around all of that.....

 

[newstome]

Except, we have no facts that an accident occured or that Ron did anything to hurt Haleigh. His lifestyle is rotton, his ex-girlfriends have verbally trashed him, he was the one to leave them. They all did drugs and came from families who did drugs, but say Ron got them addicted. Nay-Nays words to AH are taken as facts, and we know how she makes her money and what she uses it for. All the families related to Haleigh have lied. They all went into cover up mode when this happened, and all pointed away from themselves.
I just think there is so much more that really is fact that we don't know yet.

 

[Whisperer]

When you think of it we have no facts to think misty is guilty either but we do.

 

[Whisperer]

RC has sided with misty through every inconsistent statement she has made. His actions are what is bringing many to consider him as part of the crime.

His volatile make-up leads us to think if he suspected and knew who harmed Haleigh, he would react in a not so pretty way. Despite LE's suspicions, rc has protected misty. Sound reasoning leads people to conclude he is not mad at misty for losing his daughter...why not? :waitasec:

Why is almost everyone else angry about her and her changing statements and failing polys and ron isn't?

So he either knows what happened to Haleigh and is at peace or he is crazy...and I am not ruling out crazy.

 

[Whisperer]

Wow, just got throug h reading here that Hope S might be a stripper, Donna B might be a ho, and Misty wants to join the choir.
Tough to get your mind wrapped around all of that.....

Well, darn-it PaPa, I wish misty would make her career move and SING.

 

[whovillebaby]

this is a case of "BAD KARMA"
Ron sold drugs before Haleigh went missing, and after.......with Misty!
They were obviously back together when busted....baby
Those two are in this together IMO that is why neither have ratted out the other, and it all revolves around drugs and shady people.
What goes around comes around.....but at the expence of an innocent child.

 

[grandmaj]

If they offered Ron a deal it is because they wanted him to talk. He told Hope they offered him 25 years. They wouldn't be offering Ron any deals if they felt that he didn't have information to share. MOO

 

[bessie]

Wow, just got through reading here that Hope S might be a stripper, Donna B might be a ho, and Misty wants to join the choir.

Tough to get your mind wrapped around all of that.....

Sounds like the cast of a Whoopi Goldberg movie. Maybe TN will play Mother Superior.