Theories on what happened to Haleigh #2

[kamky]

Hi Texasmommy, I just wanted to ask you this, I have read your theory, very interesting by the way, but you seem to put a lot of stock into the light being on....my problem is this. Misty says she woke up to go to the bathroom and get a drink or whatnot, and saw the light, she also saw 3 on the clock, I wondered why you put so much stock in what Misty says....In an interview Ronald gave to NG he stated that Misty would have been able to see the light being on from the bedroom....I think everyone is putting too much stock in the light thing and I just wondered since you think the light is a big clue. I personally don't think the light is something we can count as truth. Did I miss something LE said about the light being important?

Also, I thought LE stated that the items found in the woods were not related to the case, but we really don't know for sure if no-one went to LE to tell them that those items were theirs or not because LE has not let any information whatsoever slip out about this little one's disappearance. I get that you are hypothesizing and all but I find it so hard to do that because LE won't give info out at all.

I think there has been focus on the light being on because it's unusual. We don't normally think that the typical burgler or "absconder" would turn a light on and draw attention to themselves...maybe use moonlight or possibly a dimmed flashlight. If the perp knew that Misty was not at home, or apt to be in a heavy sleep, or he had a mask and couldn't be recognized, then they would be more likely to turn on a light to accomplish their goal faster. JMO.

 

[kamky]

Okay, I'll bite. Are there 2 vans?

No, only one van. I think what was meant was that the actual statement was "the van" and not "my van". It is confusing because there was discussion about Misty saying "my van", tho. At the time, I thought that since the family members shared it so much that Misty was using a colloquial way of saying "Our van...the one we all share." She has a tendency to mix up singular and plural and various trenses in her speech. For this reason, I don't put much stock in the exact way she says things.

 

[Skully]

No, only one van. I think what was meant was that the actual statement was "the van" and not "my van". It is confusing because there was discussion about Misty saying "my van", tho. At the time, I thought that since the family members shared it so much that Misty was using a colloquial way of saying "Our van...you mean the one we all share?" She has a tendency to mix up singular and plural and various trenses in her speech. For this reason, I don't put much stock in the exact way she says things.

Thanks, the SIL is quoted as saying "my van". But it was probably an error on her part.

 

[Flossie JMO]

No, only one van. I think what was meant was that the actual statement was "the van" and not "my van". It is confusing because there was discussion about Misty saying "my van", tho. At the time, I thought that since the family members shared it so much that Misty was using a colloquial way of saying "Our van...you mean the one we all share?" She has a tendency to mix up singular and plural and various trenses in her speech. For this reason, I don't put much stock in the exact way she says things.

I do agree, and I think "Misty speak" may be part of what confuses some.

 

[Boytwnmom]

all of them since the beginning depending on which scenario occurred.

I would love to think she was whisked away by CS's family because they were so appalled by Misty caring for her or something. But it makes no sense as Junior was left behind. Even if they thought they could get custody of Junior the issue of the reappearance would be, to say the least, problematic as there would be no way to do it without being charged with a felony, likely a capital felony. Haleigh is 5 not 2 and could obviously relate what happened, where she was, who she was with. It's not like they could keep her drugged or blindfolded for months at a time. The family member abduction theory has this as a fatal flaw. Also, if Haleigh was familiar enough with the perpetrator that she willingly left with them in the middle of the night then she obviously could easily turn them in when she suddenly turned up.

Also, that scenario in no way explains the behavioral aspects of RC & MC, the 911 call and failure to call out her name and look for her outside, the failure to tell the truth about the evening, the marriage that RC seemed less than into, the walking out on LE, the refusal to now meet with LE and on and on. That behavior, especially taken collectively, still needs explanation and CS and/or her family being the abductor does not work by way of explanation.

Also, does anyone really believe that RC & TN would not have immediately been screaming from the rooftops if they had even the slightest suspicion that CS was involved. TN trashed her from the beginning but NEVER expressed the slightest suspicion toward her-very telling, and actually very strange, IMO.

My theory is that Ronald, Misty, TN and GGMSykes know exactly what happened to Haleigh and where she is.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Great Post BOYTWNMOM! I totally and completely agree with you...

 

[Flossie JMO]

Refresh my memory on how TN trashed her please.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

My 1st theory remains an accident followed by a Cummings/Croslin coverup. However, I think this theory could co-exist with a family abduction theory as there are multiple Cummings/Croslin kin and associates available to spirit an injured Haleigh away. For example, what if there was a Ron, Teresa, GGM or Misty look alike in that bunch ? Would a drugged, or seriously injured, Haliegh willingly go with someone who appears like a loved one to recover somewhere ? I think it's a stretch, but then we've been considering a lot of stretch theories.

BTW, there is a Ron look alike, who shares the same last name, and was recently detained by the PCSO. No proof, as of yet, that he is a family member - but then, a drugged, or seriously injured, little girl who sees someone who looks so much like her daddy, wouldn't be checking ids. The existence, and the proximity, of this look-alike lends some credence to my stretch theory IMO.

 

[texasmommy39]

Well, that's what makes theorizing interesting, over opinion. One has more license to add and/or subtract, to work with facts and sketchy details that opinion often doesn't allow, to forage into areas opinion would close down....I think it makes for great old fashioned and frankly much more respectful discussion, don't you?

:blowkiss:
My Opinion can change like the Texas weather. In fact every day since 02/10/09 my opinion has been added to and subtracted from (sometimes not even by me LOL) and I expect a few more modifications (of my own) in the near future.
This sounds good enough to be my signature.

 

[texasmommy39]

Theorizing here about this close nit family..... could they be close enough to all know and are all hiding information?

 

[yosande]

I'm bothered with knowing there are witnesses that saw Misty pick up Haleigh at the bus stop, and Ron saying that he picked her up, and it being the last time he saw her.
There is something very troubling about the father lying about the last time he saw his daughter. Very troubling. jmo

 

[RJA00]

My theory is that HaLeigh is alive and was taken by family/family friends.

yes flossie

That has been my theory since day one. I have seen nothing to change my mind.

 

[Donjeta]

Supposing for a moment that Haleigh was taken by Sheffield family members, I don't think they'd have used Lindsey's van to do it. Who then put the scratch in the Croslin van that night and why?

 

[kamky]

all of them since the beginning depending on which scenario occurred.

I would love to think she was whisked away by CS's family because they were so appalled by Misty caring for her or something. But it makes no sense as Junior was left behind. Even if they thought they could get custody of Junior the issue of the reappearance would be, to say the least, problematic as there would be no way to do it without being charged with a felony, likely a capital felony. Haleigh is 5 not 2 and could obviously relate what happened, where she was, who she was with. It's not like they could keep her drugged or blindfolded for months at a time. The family member abduction theory has this as a fatal flaw. ~snip ~~

A 5 year old child has only about 2 -3 years of memory that would stick with her later in life. Suppose she has been taken to a remote rural area where there was lots of supportive, protective kin. She's told she was in danger and will be staying here just a while - like a vacation. Suppose she will be homeschooled, her hair cut and maybe even the color changed. She dresses like a country kid and hangs out with lots of "cousins". They give her a nickname and it sticks. She begins to adapt to a new life and starts having fun. She picks up the accent and speech patterns of her cousins. By the time she is 8, her predominent memories will be of her new life. By the time she is 11, her memories of "Haleigh" will be pretty dim. By the time she is 14, the transformation will be complete. She may feel that she has had a very happy life and is very close to her kinfolk.

 

[debs]

A 5 year old child has only about 2 -3 years of memory that would stick with her later in life. Suppose she has been taken to a remote rural area where there was lots of supportive, protective kin. She's told she was in danger and will be staying here just a while - like a vacation. Suppose she will be homeschooled, her hair cut and maybe even the color changed. She dresses like a country kid and hangs out with lots of "cousins". They give her a nickname and it sticks. She begins to adapt to a new life and starts having fun. She picks up the accent and speech patterns of her cousins. By the time she is 8, her predominent memories will be of her new life. By the time she is 11, her memories of "Haleigh" will be pretty dim. By the time she is 14, the transformation will be complete. She may feel that she has had a very happy life and is very close to her kinfolk.

Her very pronounced maxillofacial issues would definitely set her off in any crowd into which she would be assimilated in this scenario.

 

[kamky]

Her very pronounced maxillofacial issues would definitely set her off in any crowd into which she would be assimilated in this scenario.

In a small, closed society, it wouldn't matter. Makeup could be applied to minimize it if she ever ventured out near "outsiders".

 

[debs]

In a small, closed society, it wouldn't matter. Makeup could be applied to minimize it if she ever ventured out near "outsiders".

Makeup..........to account for a jaw that looks to be set to one side significantly? okay.

 

[kamky]

Makeup..........to account for a jaw that looks to be set to one side significantly? okay.

LOL...clearly, no! makeup to account for the birthmarks. A set aside jaw may not be viewed as anything significant in a small, closed society. Neither may birthmarks. The point is, I'm aware of areas where these types of things wouldn't amount to a hill of beans.

 

[debs]

LOL...clearly, no! makeup to account for the birthmarks. A set aside jaw may not be viewed as anything significant in a small, closed society. Neither may birthmarks. The point is, I'm aware of areas where these types of things wouldn't amount to a hill of beans.

You know of places that people can hide away stolen children?

 

[kamky]

You know of places that people can hide away stolen children?

I think it is naive to assume that no such places exist all across the US.