Theories on what happened to Haleigh #2

[newsjunkie]

I know

The simplest, least filled with holes theory is an accidental death and disposal of the body.

A possible scenario that keeps running through my mind is that perhaps Ron instructed Misty to give the kids some benedryl at bedtime (either due to illness or possibly no one wanted to go to bed at bedtime). Misty did as instructed and awoke to her not breathing.

She is the dumb girlfriend who did this to his kid, but it was at his instruction.

Jr. isn't going to wake up for anything due to his having been dosed, as well.

This seems to explain some of the questions left behind by other theories, but I OBVIOUSLY have no proof. . .so this is all MOO.


ETA: then the door and the light and everything else is staging for the abduction they report to the police.

 

[Skully]

I go back and forth with her being dead or alive. Some days I think maybe a family member (not close) took her and is keeping her or she is dead by the hands of a stranger or there was an accident and she died. Nothing adds up in this case, including the lack of evidence to point to what could have transpired that night. If you go over what we do know, you can make a case for or against what you see.

 

[lil momma]

I go back and forth with her being dead or alive. Some days I think maybe a family member (not close) took her and is keeping her or she is dead by the hands of a stranger or there was an accident and she died. Nothing adds up in this case, including the lack of evidence to point to what could have transpired that night. If you go over what we do know, you can make a case for or against what you see.

Bern:

I agree, I am back and fourth on those issues as well. I think that is why LE hit the road block, but with that being said, wouldn't you have to clear those closest to HC? Those who were in the home with her all the time and that night? I just don't get "why" LE is allowing RC & MC to control the investigation. the reason i say this, is for the simple fact that they haven't been drilled enough, if they had been and passed the poly's like they claim, they would have been cleared, but since NO ONE has been cleared in the investigation, it leaves the door wide open... (no Pun intended)

It is a shame....HaLeigh deserves to be found, either way!

IMO

 

[Skully]

Bern:

I agree, I am back and fourth on those issues as well. I think that is why LE hit the road block, but with that being said, wouldn't you have to clear those closest to HC? Those who were in the home with her all the time and that night? I just don't get "why" LE is allowing RC & MC to control the investigation. the reason i say this, is for the simple fact that they haven't been drilled enough, if they had been and passed the poly's like they claim, they would have been cleared, but since NO ONE has been cleared in the investigation, it leaves the door wide open... (no Pun intended)

It is a shame....HaLeigh deserves to be found, either way!

IMO

This is my take on why they haven't arrested anyone.

1. There is simply no law against being confused. Misty does change her statements, a lot. But if LE feels this is because she was hung over from the previous 3 day spree, or she was just out of it, or she simply doesn't have the skills to communicate what she is trying to say; (go to screen door and brick thread to see 911 call), they can't arrest her for that.

2. Ron was at work. He has an alibi

3. No evidence of trauma in the MH, or for that matter anything. They don't know what crime has been committed other than she was taken.

I don't think Misty is going to give the answers that they need, she either doesn't know them; she was asleep, or she isn't telling; as in there was an accident or someone else was in the MH and took her.

So where do they go with this now? They have to find a body to see what the cause of death was, or they need someone to come forward with information or they need some one to spot a live Haleigh and bring her home. That's what I see.

I just reread that 911 call and it is interesting as Misty uses verbiage that is confusing if you are on the other end of a phone and can't see what she is talking about. Also recall the inches and feet scenario. I now think that Ron was not so much coaching as frustrated or embarrassed that she didn't know the difference. JMHO

 

[DotsEyes]

Not so much that she didn't know the difference but that she didn't realize what she was saying, the word "inches" being stuck in her mind all the while visualizing the distance, knowing the approximate distance and "inches" not registering as an error.

Have any of you ever experienced saying the absolutely wrong word and not even realizing it until it was pointed out to you? When she was asked to phsyically show the distance, she started to spread her arms and hands, then she was interrupted and asked if it would have been as close and she and RC in the chairs, she looked an said maybe from that chair to this chair, looking at the outer sides of the chairs, she is interrupted again with "the distance between your chairs?" she looked down between the chairs (about 3-4 inches) and said "no, more than that." RC was trying to let her know she was saying inches by mistake, but she answered just fine in her own way - visuals and present points of reference.

With someone like MC, you must give them time to speak. Rapid fire questioning is going to get nowhere because she can not process verbal communication without a visual image in her head and a reference point present. No one gives her the time to say anything. I think RC knows this and gets frustrated when the reporters confuse her with the fast talk, interruptions and rapid fire, overlapping questions and he tries to interpret the questions for her so that she can understand. Interpret, not interrupt.

 

[weasel]

I think MC left the house after the kids fell asleep. I think she was out partying and got home in time to beat RC home from work. That's why she is confused and has given different versions of what happened. She doesn't know because she wasn't there. In my opinion, if Haleigh was abducted it was by someone who knew positively that no one was home except two small children. They knew MC had left one of the doors unlocked and went right in, picked up Haleigh and left with her. More than likely it's someone who lives very close to RC and knows their routine. MC waited for RC before calling 911 because she was scared of RC finding out. She knew she wasn't home and had no idea what happened. LE should look at the people MC came into contact with that night. Also the people closest to the family. Guarantee you it's someone close to the family.

 

[lil momma]

Well, here i am again, with yet another theory. I am still in the works to see if most of the facts we have fit into this theory, but here it is anyways.

Is it possible that MC got set up by two individuals? (maybe someone that MC & RC owed some money to, whether it was borrowed or drug money is irrelevent at this point) Let's say MC was going to meet someone after the kids were put to sleep. Let's say that person A & person B are in kahoots together. Keeping in mind that only RC has a key to the MH, as he stated in one of his interviews, and these two (A & B) are aware of this, so MC would have to leave a door unlocked to regain access to the MH. person A lures MC away from the MH long enough and person B goes into the MH knowing MC is with person A, takes HC. MC returns just before RC only to find HC gone.

 

[DotsEyes]

The issue with your theory, lil momma, is that MC was questioned during one of her polygraphs about whether she was home or not. She said she was and then reported to the media that she had passed, proving that she was telling the truth about her whereabouts. Sure, her word is not proof positive that she in fact told the truth during the polygraph and there are differing opinions on whether LE or the polygrapher would ever make such a statement to her. However, her smile and "I told you so" attitude of triumph tells me that she was told that she passed on this issue and in fact did.

Just an observation.

 

[Viki]

Not so much that she didn't know the difference but that she didn't realize what she was saying, the word "inches" being stuck in her mind all the while visualizing the distance, knowing the approximate distance and "inches" not registering as an error.

Have any of you ever experienced saying the absolutely wrong word and not even realizing it until it was pointed out to you? When she was asked to phsyically show the distance, she started to spread her arms and hands, then she was interrupted and asked if it would have been as close and she and RC in the chairs, she looked an said maybe from that chair to this chair, looking at the outer sides of the chairs, she is interrupted again with "the distance between your chairs?" she looked down between the chairs (about 3-4 inches) and said "no, more than that." RC was trying to let her know she was saying inches by mistake, but she answered just fine in her own way - visuals and present points of reference.

With someone like MC, you must give them time to speak. Rapid fire questioning is going to get nowhere because she can not process verbal communication without a visual image in her head and a reference point present. No one gives her the time to say anything. I think RC knows this and gets frustrated when the reporters confuse her with the fast talk, interruptions and rapid fire, overlapping questions and he tries to interpret the questions for her so that she can understand. Interpret, not interrupt.

Being the parent of two cognitively impaired children, I absolutely agree with you.

My daughter, for example, is highly verbal and social (like her Mom!), but she's hopeless at math and perceptual realities. She could have dissected every personality in the family system, but never have told you how far away Haleigh slept.

That said, Misty has clear intellectual shortcomings, it was on her watch that Haleigh went missing, and Ron was anything but happy about this marriage, having avoided popping the question a myriad of times before.

Why did Ron marry Misty?

 

[Viki]

I think MC left the house after the kids fell asleep. I think she was out partying and got home in time to beat RC home from work. That's why she is confused and has given different versions of what happened. She doesn't know because she wasn't there. In my opinion, if Haleigh was abducted it was by someone who knew positively that no one was home except two small children. They knew MC had left one of the doors unlocked and went right in, picked up Haleigh and left with her. More than likely it's someone who lives very close to RC and knows their routine. MC waited for RC before calling 911 because she was scared of RC finding out. She knew she wasn't home and had no idea what happened. LE should look at the people MC came into contact with that night. Also the people closest to the family. Guarantee you it's someone close to the family.

Let me up the ante... IF it's true that Misty was at the Tyler street address that night, is there anyway that someone in that house, intentionally or otherwise, alerted someone else, by telephone perhaps, that the MH, with two sleeping children, was without adult supervision?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Let me up the ante... IF it's true that Misty was at the Tyler street address that night, is there anyway that someone in that house, intentionally or otherwise, alerted someone else, by telephone perhaps, that the MH, with two sleeping children, was without adult supervision?

Hmmm, whom might they have alerted ? And if intentional, what might the motive have been ?

 

[elle1919]

The issue with your theory, lil momma, is that MC was questioned during one of her polygraphs about whether she was home or not. She said she was and then reported to the media that she had passed, proving that she was telling the truth about her whereabouts. Sure, her word is not proof positive that she in fact told the truth during the polygraph and there are differing opinions on whether LE or the polygrapher would ever make such a statement to her. However, her smile and "I told you so" attitude of triumph tells me that she was told that she passed on this issue and in fact did.

Just an observation.

Hi dotseyes,

I think Misty took several(3?) poly's. When all the hoopla began after LE's initial interviews with her, when reports came in about Misty not being home that evening, it is true she did go back in and interview with LE. However, I am yet to find an interview that Misty did AFTER the reports came in of her not being home. I don't think LE came out and said they polygraphed her specifically about those accusations. Misty never said she passed numerous polygraphs. It was after consecutive interviews that she stopped talking to media about that night. The thing is it happened in conjunction with the geraldo interview, Ronald stopped talking to media in depth after that interview and I really can find nothing that would confirm Misty passing a poly administered after the stories of her not being home that night.

If I am wrong please direct me to the interview where she states she passed a poly after the fact. I could be mixed up!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Not so much that she didn't know the difference but that she didn't realize what she was saying, the word "inches" being stuck in her mind all the while visualizing the distance, knowing the approximate distance and "inches" not registering as an error.

Have any of you ever experienced saying the absolutely wrong word and not even realizing it until it was pointed out to you? When she was asked to phsyically show the distance, she started to spread her arms and hands, then she was interrupted and asked if it would have been as close and she and RC in the chairs, she looked an said maybe from that chair to this chair, looking at the outer sides of the chairs, she is interrupted again with "the distance between your chairs?" she looked down between the chairs (about 3-4 inches) and said "no, more than that." RC was trying to let her know she was saying inches by mistake, but she answered just fine in her own way - visuals and present points of reference.

With someone like MC, you must give them time to speak. Rapid fire questioning is going to get nowhere because she can not process verbal communication without a visual image in her head and a reference point present. No one gives her the time to say anything. I think RC knows this and gets frustrated when the reporters confuse her with the fast talk, interruptions and rapid fire, overlapping questions and he tries to interpret the questions for her so that she can understand. Interpret, not interrupt.

I could not agree more! This is exactly what I see happening with Misty.

 

[Donjeta]

Just IMO but if her inconsistencies were simply a matter of using wrong words accidentally and asking questions too fast they should have been easy enough to clarify and explain to the satisfaction of LE. I'm sure it's not the first time the finest minds have come across with slips of the tongue, and they were not very fine minds at all if they didn't think of trying if talking more slowly would help when they came across problems in her interviews.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't mind saying I am not impressed with this LE department in so many ways. What they have said publically about Misty, imo, is wrong. They could have said those things in order to apply more pressure thinking they would somehow get ahead or they were actually so blinded, one-tracked, and desperate that they showed how inept they were not to be able to "crack" an immature 17 yo girl who did nothing wrong except sleep too soundly.

 

[Whisperer]

I don't see Misty processing slowly at all. Watch her during her interview with AH. Shw was peppy and quck on the fly.

The slowness you observed could be drug induced.

 

[Whisperer]

I don't mind saying I am not impressed with this LE department in so many ways. What they have said publically about Misty, imo, is wrong. They could have said those things in order to apply more pressure thinking they would somehow get ahead or they were actually so blinded, one-tracked, and desperate that they showed how inept they were not to be able to "crack" an immature 17 yo girl who did nothing wrong except sleep too soundly.

I think the LE was soft on her.....for fear of her being a child. She is a street-wise girl....don't forget that.

Once she got married, talks ceased...and a lawyer came on board...no more interviews, now she is into damage control.

Sleeping too soundly? Does that make you forget what the child was wearing when she went to bed? Does that make you wait for her father to come home before 911 is called?

If she was that immature, what do you think of the fact that RC gave her total control of the children 24/7?

 

[lonetraveler]

There have been statements made that the washing machine was running when LE arrived at the MH. Has this ever been confirmed in any official report or news update or ? I'm curious as to how Misty explained how the laundry was in the middle of being washed if she had just awoke from sleeping for hours. How could she be asleep and doing laundry at the same time? The other theory that is being discussed: that she had left the children there alone and had just returned home prior to RC coming home from work, again, who started the laundry washing if she was not at the home? How did she explain this to Ron if he believes her story about being asleep until just prior to him arriving at the MH? I am not convinced at all on the timeline according to Misty and Ron on the time of just after 3 am that Misty discovered that Haleigh was missing. Someone had to put the washing machine on start. If the washing machine was on and clothes were washing, who started the wash? This situation dictates to me that Haleigh was missing much earlier than reported. Misty's story of being asleep contradicts the story of laundry in the process of being washed.

 

[Donjeta]

The washing machine was never confirmed (to my knowledge) so I'd treat it as a rumor for the time being.

 

[Blackwatch]

I don't mind saying I am not impressed with this LE department in so many ways.

For once you and I agree on this thread.

What they have said publically about Misty, imo, is wrong. They could have said those things in order to apply more pressure thinking they would somehow get ahead or they were actually so blinded, one-tracked, and desperate that they showed how inept they were not to be able to "crack" an immature 17 yo girl who did nothing wrong except sleep too soundly.

BBM - IN YOUR OPINION.