Theories on what happened to Haleigh

[raisincharlie]

Le is only going to tell us what they want us to hear. NOT THE THRUTH at least not yet.
Florida's Sunshine law is the probable reason we are not being told the truth in regards to who really their poi is.

LE has no obligation to tell us anything during an ongoing investigation.

 

[texasmommy39]

Sometimes the actions of criminals make no sence to us non criminals. But the truth is there is alot of dumb criminals that think they will get away with their crimes.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(Bold Me)

I have been an avid reader of this forum for a long time. I have been disappointed in the argumentative posts of members as to the history and economic status of all the players in this case and have been intimidated until now to become a member and post. I feel this on all fronts has defiantly effected the purpose of the well intended to contribute in this search for this little one that is not where she is supposed to be at this very moment . I feel the talents of many are needed to bring to light the truth of this case and hope that others feel this way also.
These sad cases of missing children have been well researched in the attempt to learn from what Law Enforcement unfortunately have had to learn. The forensic science of the investigation has become an art with many missing and abducted cases solved in a short time.

It became clear to me with the help of all the hard work done on this site that this was not a random crime nor was it committed by a stranger. The truth is most abductions are family abductions.

My opinion is Law Enforcement would defiantly remain tip lipped if they believed that Haleigh is still alive and or they believe a family member is involved. We all would like to believe that a non family member had a hand in this but the evidence just doesn't support that theory. It is a family member! Who in this family would have a motive? This is my heart felt opinion and hope I am right only because it would mean Haleigh is some where right now will be coming home soon to her DADDY!THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION !

"Daddy" in caps, imo, reveals bias against and possibly some level of animousity toward the "MOTHER" < My purpose for mimicking this was simply to show how the emphasization of that word alone speaks volumes as to your own personal feelings toward CS.

I do not consider rumors or hearsay to form my theory but the evidence that was released by Putnam Count Sheriff dept.
EVIDENCE RELEASED
02/10/09 911 call 3:27 am

02/10/09 police report 3:50 am

1.) No forced entry.

2.) Back door open and screen door propped with cinder block.

3.) Light on in kitchen.

4.) Foot print on wooden path going towards pond.

5.) The lean to, stick chair, shovel and rope found in woods close by.

5.) Haleigh’s night shirt was later found in laundry pile after Misty is asked to find

Haleigh’s clothes she wore that day to school.

6.) Something was discovered missing of Haleigh’s after trailer is released to family.
MY OPINION ON THE EVIDENCE

The fact that there is no forced entry rules out stranger automatically to me.I agree that, based upon what little we know thus far, it could very likely be a stranger, with that said, there is the possibility that the door was "bumped" or maybe Misty had gone out that door to have a smoke earlier and forgot to lock it and is/was afraid to tell Ron. But lets assume that your right - nobody forced their way in; by crowbar, screwdriver, credit card, "bumping",... - Essentially your saying than that CS or someone associated with her had a key, correct? I have not heard any mention made by Ron or anyone in his camp so to say, state that there were x number of keys of at one time and one mysteriously disappeared and there has been no mention either of Haleigh & RJ having had a key at one time (extremely unlikely anyhow) but when they returned home from CS's following one of "her" weekends, the key was missing - so my question is, how exactly do you think CS got in? Additionally if you think that it wasn't actually CS that did the "getting in" please tell me who is the possible accomplice('s) and include your explanation as to how they obtained entry unforcably. Thank you. We have not heard mention the front door being locked nor the front door to the screen porch but can assume that defiantly would have been mentioned and picked apart by now. Guess it's acceptable to assume about this trivial matter...So it still leads me to believe someone close. The propping of the screen door was planned. It indicates to me they had intentions to get in and out but also they where planning on getting back in and out with Jr. I don't see any other reasoning because they were not afraid to turn on a light. We have been told that Misty was in the big bed with Jr. and I am assuming she was on the outside and Jr. was on the inside near the wall and that is why they were not able to take Jr. I admit it, I'm lost here - because a cement block was used to prop open the exterior storm door that, if not propped with something - would have slammed shut because the pressure arm was broken or not properly adjusted, indicates that the perp was going to take Jr. as well. I see it as the perp not wanting the door to slam shut alerting possibly neighbors or waking up someone in the house. The last thing you want to do when abducting a child is give yourself away before you've even gotten away. Personally I see absolutely no indication, by the door being propped open in itself, that points toward your theory.
The light on in the kitchen. My opinion is who ever this person was they knew Haleigh but not exactly the layout of the trailer. This person may have known that Haleigh is scared of the dark. Obviously she was not scared of who woke her and removed her from her bed.Hmmm, the light on in the kitchen - now here is where I have my issues. Why would an abductor go to the trouble of propping open a door in order to get a child (or two according to your theory) out of the home, making it easier so they don't have to manage the door and risk it slamming closed after they exit and yet they aren't concerned about waking the adult who is supposedly sleeping in the bed next to their victim - because the bedroom door is "always open" (Re: TN) - and risked waking her by turning that light on?? Why not consider that the light was already on? According to Misty herself, she claims that she was exhausted that night. She states that she was doing some laundry (specifically blankets), RJ was in LR watching a movie while Haleigh was in the BR watching a movie at one point, she later covered Haleigh with a blanket, somehow RJ went from LR to the bed in her and Ron's BR and she claims to have gone to bed at around 10:00. It was stated that the television was on therefore Misty may have laid down to watch some tv but wasn't done doing laundry so the kitchen light was still on because she planned on folding clothes, once they were done drying, but she fell asleep. Just as plausible, if not more so than your theory which involves far more risk imo.
The Hanna Montana shirt that Haleigh wore to bed was said to be found at the bottom of the dirty clothes pile on the floor in front of back door and washer machine. We know it was very cool that night I believe 40 something and Haleigh’s shirt was removed probably to leave behind any type of evidence that later can be identified. If CS or "company" abducted Haleigh what would the identifiable "evidence" be? Outside of evidence, such as seman, blood, or any body fluids that could possibly identify the perp (none reported as of yet by LE) or if it had (which it didn't, but if...) blood, seman, dirt,...on it and the perp, fearing that could draw attention if seen by strangers during the flee trip/travel, changed it opting for clean and therefore less conspicuous clothing. But,...
I am assuming she was dressed in something warmer and they forgot the shoes which is so normal for us southerners. Okay so the perp took the shirt off that she had on when Misty put her to bed because he/she didn't want any identifying evidence - which, as of yet, LE has not stated that there was any "identifying" evidence on the shirt - and because the perp cared about Haleigh getting/being cold, he/she redressed her in warmer clothing - Don't feet get cold too? Especially when they touch the ground...? Questions that could be raised might be; where did Misty and Ron keep the children's shoes? A coat closet in the livingroom, perhaps on the front porch,...apparently they weren't in plain sight (or were they?) or the perp, who cared so much about Haleigh, would have put them on her (but we don't know...) Another factor is that as far as we know at this point, no clothes are missing or unaccounted for, so did the perp bring clothes to put Haleigh in? Again, many, many questions without answers but the one thing that is certain at this point, there is nothing pointing toward CS and Co. on that issue, as of yet.
Child's foot print was found directly on scent trail from back door so I believe it is a vital clue that connects to the crime. It tells me that it is someone who cares about Haleigh. Haleigh is not scared enough to run nor scream. She must be awake and conscious to stand. Foot Print vs. Foot Prints, one foot on the ground or two? A caring perp redressed Haleigh in warm clothes that they possibly brought along with them but forgot to bring shoes to keep her feet warm or to protect them from cuts and injury from stepping on something sharp out in the woods in the middle of the night...If there's only one foot print - meaning one foot - on the ground, that isn't a good sign to me. If there are two - both feet on the ground - how far do the footprints go? From what we do know they do not indicate that she was just strutting along as if out for a stroll. There is no indication there are a child walking freely and of her own accord. More importantly, Misty has placed herself there along with Haleigh - she stated that her and the kids had taken a walk along that area.
That something missing is anyone’s guess at this time. It defiantly would reinforce someone who cares has Haleigh and is taking good care of her for the moment. You have no idea what is missing BUT whatever it is, only indicates that the perp, again cares for Haleigh and is taking good care of her!? and again, in your opinion, that points toward CS and/or Co.
The lean-to, chair, shovel & rope I believe was staged.Did Crystal make that herself too? Another alternate theory could be that it has nothing to do with it at all. LE has made no claims about it.

EVENTS THAT HAVE GIVEN ME CONCERN

It has been stated by many and CS her self she was notified at 3:40am by TN, RC’s mother that Haleigh was missing. It was reported she did not call her father till 5am and that CS did not show till mid morning.I'll wait for the phone records before I come to any conclusion(s) here.

CS and her family have been slinging mud instead of being productive and positive in appreciation of all those that are there for that purpose, the search for Haleigh. CS put Jr. on TV with no fear of him being in danger for being able to identify abductor.I have previously stated my disqust and outrage regarding RJ being on camara and CS's public disclosure of his alledged statements to her. With that said, Ron, Misty, and TN have done their share of "mud slinging" also, the difference is that they just innocently slide it in and with a smile (smirk) on their face. Misty & TN are majorly passive-aggressive and in my book, passive-aggressive's are cowards. If you call them on something they say, they claim that your just taking it all wrong and that they didn't mean it like that, your the one who is being over-sensitive, paranoid,...I'd rather - any day - have someone say it how they really mean it to my face and stand by it when they're called on it - I may not like it but at least they don't crawl cowardly under a rock like a snake.

“To catch a mouse , you have to lay the bait and set the trap.”

DOGS AND THE DUMPSTER
My personal opinion is the use of the dogs, dumpster and the media was to observe the reactions of family members. Cs was interviewed and her response was odd, she said she had no knowledge of the search with Dogs in progress yards away nor that they had hit on a dumpster and that it could possible be linked to this abduction. She was not concerned and only asked over her shoulder to others in her camp "Where are the dumpsters?”......ODD!!!!! No mother would act so indifferent with that information if she didn't know where Haleigh was. I've known people (I'm actually like this too) who, in the midst of an emergency, have a completely opposite reaction than most people. (panic, anxiety, fear,...) Under normal day in and day out conditions they tend to appear "uptight" - the little things often get to them - but unbelievably they appear/become calm, almost serene and are very much under control. (Usually a "condition" caused by growing up in chaos) Amazingly Ron copes by going mudding, getting married, getting a tat...yada, yada, yada...

THE MARIAGE ANNOUNCEMENT
My personal opinion is this move is to further irritate or anger CS to make a move. I found it odd CS had make-up on at presser and 29 previous days of plain Jane doesn't make any sense unless the bait was taken and she is making her move. She must still have feelings for Ron because that is a move that indicates to me she wants him to notice her after their announcement. This development is definitely a sign they would of been hoping to see and are paying close attention to along with all persons in her camp. I personally find no fault in Misty's age or stated experience to be able to keep kids. I do have some concern for the babysitter to girlfriend to live in only because of her age. I feel if he truly has feelings for misty he would of respected her (no sex) and waited for her to turn 18 and in the mean while encouraged her to return to school or get her GED. But who is to say that was not the truth of the matter before hand and all these events are what prompted the sudden marriage, but I do believe their is more to this sudden event than we know. I am sure they know that this marriage will not protect either in a court of law in regards to Haleigh’s abduction , but are asking all to focus now on Haleigh and not focus on a now legal relationship.
JUSTICE COALITION PRESSER 3/12/09
It was obvious to me the press conference had a hidden agenda.My opinion was that all agency 's involved where not there for a pat on the back but an opportunity to see and hear Ron and Crystal speak and plead for the return of Haleigh. I watched everyone of those VIPs (Justice Coalition. FBI, FDLE and Florida's State Attorney plus Putnam County Sheriff and investigators ) from behind that podium keep watch of all family and others for reactions to the various statements that were given and the parents pleas for the return of Haleigh's return. It seemed to me that RC seems very close to investigators in comparison to Crystal, him standing behind and with all those VIPs said a lot!!!
CS pleas for Haleigh reinforce my suspicion that CS still has feelings for RC because she uses the term “Mommy and Daddy”.
It surely was not for the benefit of the public eye it was planned and staged to observe the squirm of those involved that were present and to send a loud and clear unsaid statement.
YOU WONT BE ABLE TO LIE MUCH LONGER
WE ARE MANY AND WE WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO FIND THE TRUTH

Who took Haleigh?.....
My personal opinion is CS and her mother MG knows who took Haleigh and who is now hiding her .

Why?........
My personal opinion is the way Ronald went about getting the kids in his custody 2005 is probably the main reason why CS went about it this way, to get even. I feel it was her intention to take Jr. also, but was unable to take the risk and remove him from the bed where he was sleeping with MC. CS has some physiological things going on in connection with this new family and the one she and RC started. Possibly some postpartum depression that has brought certain surprised feelings to the surface in regards to her non custody of her two children with RC. I believe that the children expressing their love for MC; RC’s 17 yr. old girlfriend was the last straw on Crystals back. .
It is a fact that Crystal is behind in child support and is possible financially strained with their one income household, new baby and both having support payments due for children outside their home. To obtain custody would solve the support due and lessen their financial responsibility outside the home, but how do you do that with no money and no one who has been on your side? You prove the parent is unfit and call in back up. I believe this is where the story begins.
Please note that this is my opinion.

I've refrained from commenting on your additional opinions (above) - to do so frankly and honestly would likely get me banned. But because you have unabashedly taken the liberty to express your opinion regarding an adult man, 25 years of age, having sexual relations with a 16 year old girl (at the time), I too will take the liberty to say that IT IS A CRIME and just because he wasn't charged and arrested doesn't change the fact that it is a CRIME, additionally, IT IS SEXUALLY ABUSE and not JUST because I say it is, the LAW says that it is also!! Just because you think it's ok along with 30 some-odd percent of the population DOESN'T make it right! and I'm going to stop here on that issue.

IMO you've taken what little evidence there is and you've fit crystal around it, rather than fitting the evidence around the perpertrator - and honestly, at this point, I don't know who's responsible, whether it's family, Ron, Misty, Crystal, Chad, Pervert acquaintance, stranger perv,...not there yet -IMO.

MOO

 

[natsound]

It just occurred to me... maybe MC is lying about the light being on in the kitchen. I don't believe she had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, but I do think she left that door unlocked and she's made up a story to cover up her irresponsibility.

 

[texasmommy39]

(Bold Me)


I've refrained from commenting on your additional opinions (above) - to do so frankly and honestly would likely get me banned. But because you have unabashedly taken the liberty to express your opinion regarding an adult man, 25 years of age, having sexual relations with a 16 year old girl (at the time), I too will take the liberty to say that IT IS A CRIME and just because he wasn't charged and arrested doesn't change the fact that it is a CRIME, additionally, IT IS SEXUALLY ABUSE and not JUST because I say it is, the LAW says that it is also!! Just because you think it's ok along with 30 some-odd percent of the population DOESN'T make it right! and I'm going to stop here on that issue.

IMO you've taken what little evidence there is and you've fit crystal around it, rather than fitting the evidence around the perpertrator - and honestly, at this point, I don't know who's responsible, whether it's family, Ron, Misty, Crystal, Chad, Pervert acquaintance, stranger perv,...not there yet -IMO.

MOO

It is interesting you didn't comment on my opinions but my theory of the evidence. I think it is interesting also that you didn't throw in where or how she could possibly be hiding Haleigh or how would she ever expect to get away with this. hmmmmmmmm
In reference to Daddy I believe that is who she lives with?
If you will note I did not speculate as to how they got in.They had a way obviously. I did research the "bumping" but didn't mention it in my theory because forced entry has not been mentioned by police. If you will also note I looked at the evidence that was left behind and revealed in the 911 tape and transcript,as well as the police report. As far as accomplices I did not speculate as to who in this pack did it or helped or knows. That is what needs to be asked. An amber alert would give identifying clothing Haleigh was wearing at the time of her abduction. I would find it hard to believe blood, semen and dirt relating to the crime if found then would not of lead to an arrest by now. As a mother I would hope Haleigh was dressed if they took the time to undress her there at the back door before taking her out side. I can't and wont believe someone came in a took her clothes off for her to be naked that would of raised more suspension. Foot prints on trail you want to argue one or two? I cant understand what is not understood by now in regards to the trained police dogs used. Do you honestly believe these animals are not to be relied on, why have them and use taxpayers money for there indispensible talents in forensic science? As for the door being propped because it slams or squeaks it has been stated they rarely used that door and who would know this? You Tell me? I would like to know did Misty go out that back door with the children to take that stroll down that path. Wouldn't that mean a lot of footprints should of been noticed? The light that was on before or after makes no difference, they didn't turn it off. I guess they were not worried about it either way.
Shooting holes in my theory only gives me more to reaffirm my opinions. Smoke and Mirrors. I have yet to see or hear that the abuse allegations, that are being thrown out there for everyone to form an opinion, have been shown to be proven by social services. The true crime is the focus of your camp on obstructing justice. Let LE handle your concerns not the public if you don't want unabashedly with all the liberty to express the public opinion. I would hope you would want Haleigh home not everyone looking in and judging this spectacle.

 

[snookie]

THE MARIAGE ANNOUNCEMENT
My personal opinion is this move is to further irritate or anger CS to make a move. I found it odd CS had make-up on at presser and 29 previous days of plain Jane doesn't make any sense unless the bait was taken and she is making her move. She must still have feelings for Ron because that is a move that indicates to me she wants him to notice her after their announcement. This development is definitely a sign they would of been hoping to see and are paying close attention to along with all persons in her camp.

(respectfully bolded and snipped)

Honestly, I can totally understand why Crystal started using make up. She knows she's gonna be on t.v. a lot...... she wants to look *nice*. I don't think it has anything to do with Ron.

If it does have to do with Ron, I think it's a defiance thing on her part. Most controlling men (that I've known of) do not like their women to wear make up or fix themselves up. It makes them feel threatened. I think Ron might be this way as I never see Misty all purdied up.

Maybe Crystal's trying to *show* Ron that she's not a little girl anymore, that's she's not afraid to take him on. He doesn't control her any longer. She seems to have gained a lot of much needed strength here lately, and good for her.

...... honestly though, I think she's just trying to look decent on national t.v.

 

[texasmommy39]

My question is how is this going to find Haleigh? That is the Goal. I think we are all on the same page here at WS to be of some help to find this missing child!

 

[texasmommy39]

Isn't this the Forum to come together to ask questions, seek answers and then present the facts. I seem to be missing all off those posts in regards to finding Haleigh.

 

[texasmommy39]

I guess I can be patient a little while longer for answers or even good questions that will lead to the answer.

 

[txsleuth]

ok going back to the theory that this was a SO.... (not that I necessarily believe that, but just looking at all angles)

- Ron & kids (no Misty at that time) lived on Buchanan until Nov. If anyone has that exact address, I'd appreciate it. To my understanding this was a small one or two bedroom trailer. Someone reported Ron to CPS about sleeping arrangements & perhaps other things and he had to move into a three bedroom to accommodate separate bedrooms.
- I'm considering the possibility it was someone who lived on Buchanan and was familiar with the kids & Ron, but not a friend. Just a neighbor. And I'm theorizing that it was this neighbor who turned Ron in because they knew it was a one bedroom trailer.. so that Haleigh wouldn't be sleeping with Dad at night. If the person who turned Ron in to CPS called anonymously with a tip, perhaps there was a doorbell in the background of that recorded call???
- also, about the night Haleigh went missing. What if after Misty fell asleep Haleigh wet to bed. She gets up and turns on the light in the kitchen, finds clean clothes, hides wet clothes in dirty clothes, then lays down on the dry sofa instead of returning to her bed? And this person who has been watching and waiting for an opportunity can see in the living room window and sees her alone in living room because the light is on?


Interesting info found here by txsleuth
[copied from txsleuth's post]
there is a property owner named Larry S M Sr who owns

115, 119 & 131 Buchanan (just behind Haleigh's home) ---- he also co-owns other properties with G M K, and with R E M. Incidentally lot 131 is a vancant lot at the circle of Buchanan closest to the river that actually has a dock there.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/patc.inq/pa/cpa2.pl?id=60800

I'm not certain it's his son but there is a L S M, JR - birthdate 7/21/68 - Florida driver's license shows Hollister, FL - who has a lengthy criminal record both in Florida and South Carolina - that includes KIDNAPPING, ASSAULT, DRUGS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, etc. Some of the charges were abandoned. However, I also found an online article from 2007 where he is on a Most Wanted List in Lexington County South Carolina for criminal domestic violence "of a high & aggravated nature." He's described as 5'9", 175#, blond hair/blue eyes. He has a Florida record in Clay County and Putnam County.

Too coincidental imo...
(I have already sent this tip to police)
[end snip]

this pic shows the trail followed by the dogs the morning LE arrived at scene:

this pic shows the Cummings address & neighborhood: Notice how Tyler extends between Buchanan & Green, either it is a private drive or it is a gravel road.

Now I had always assumed someone would have had to have been carrying her or making her walk all that way in the dark. But, if we follow the dogs trail we see that first she was taken to the dock (where she could have been gagged & tied) then to that shed near the water. Then the trail leads through the woods on Tyler (gravel drive or road) out of the woods.

so if in fact this was an acquaintance of the family, someone who lived on Buchanan, someone who had a familiarity with Haleigh because they had talked to them or seen them daily when she lived on Buchanan then she may not have screamed.

they would have taken her because the opportunity presented itself on that night... taken her to that shed, left her for a short time to run and get their vehicle, drive it down the dirt/gravel road, loaded her into the trunk and was gone....

Regarding Tyler St - if you look at the intersection of Tyler at Monroe, you can see here on the right where Tyler extends as a dirt road (by the yellow arrow sign) behind Haleigh's home.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...bp=12,207.43525969364202,,0,9.898232060615067

 

[kikid]

Regarding Tyler St - if you look at the intersection of Tyler at Monroe, you can see here on the right where Tyler extends as a dirt road (by the yellow arrow sign) behind Haleigh's home.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...bp=12,207.43525969364202,,0,9.898232060615067

Yes! I mentioned that in my post you responded to.

I was wondering if they attempted to match up the scratch on the van with anything on that gravel drive??

 

[texasmommy39]

What SO Has Le not looked at. Everyone is not a suspect in my opinion after 5 1/2weeks but a few and narrowing by the moment. We could all turn our mouses in and wait for that breaking news presser that tells us after an arrest has been made or we can get in there get our hands dirty and slueth the truth.

 

[snookie]

What SO Has Le not looked at. Everyone is not a suspect in my opinion after 5 1/2weeks but a few and narrowing by the moment. We could all turn our mouses in and wait for that breaking news presser that tells us after an arrest has been made or we can get in there get our hands dirty and slueth the truth.

Sounds good!

 

[txsleuth]

Yes! I mentioned that in my post you responded to.

I was wondering if they attempted to match up the scratch on the van with anything on that gravel drive??

I'd be curious to know that too...that section of Tyler is indeed a very long driveway and goes to a home toward the back (see in your photo just above where you've noted the pond.) The lady that owns that entire stretch of property is the sister of LSM.....who I posted about earlier.

Here's the Putnam County Appraisal record/map -- the physical address is listed as 103 Monroe Ave

http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website//p...CELID='39-11-26-0000-0160-0000'&QueryZoom=Yes

Since Ronald Cummings had only lived in the mobile home for about 5 months..would Misty's cousin Joe have been familiar enough with the surrounding property to have parked or gone done that Tyler St driveway?

 

[kikid]

I'd be curious to know that too...that section of Tyler is indeed a very long driveway and goes to a home toward the back (see in your photo just above where you've noted the pond.) The lady that owns that entire stretch of property is the sister of LSM.....who I posted about earlier.

OMG, its his sisters property!!! just wow!!

Here's the Putnam County Appraisal record/map -- the physical address is listed as 103 Monroe Ave

http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website//p...CELID='39-11-26-0000-0160-0000'&QueryZoom=Yes

Since Ronald Cummings had only lived in the mobile home for about 5 months..would Misty's cousin Joe have been familiar enough with the surrounding property to have parked or gone done that Tyler St driveway?

exactly - only someone familiar with or living in that area would know about that!! which would probably leave cousin Joe out! good legwork!!

 

[kikid]

I'd be curious to know that too...that section of Tyler is indeed a very long driveway and goes to a home toward the back (see in your photo just above where you've noted the pond.) The lady that owns that entire stretch of property is the sister of LSM.....who I posted about earlier.

Here's the Putnam County Appraisal record/map -- the physical address is listed as 103 Monroe Ave

http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website//p...CELID='39-11-26-0000-0160-0000'&QueryZoom=Yes

Since Ronald Cummings had only lived in the mobile home for about 5 months..would Misty's cousin Joe have been familiar enough with the surrounding property to have parked or gone done that Tyler St driveway?

do you know who owned the first trailer that RC rented on Buchanan??

 

[aprilshowers]

Me? Shoot ... I'm ready to believe the whole darn family is involved! Crystal and her family, Ron and his family ... everyone!

To me, I see nobody who seems to be GENUINELY distraught, sick with worry, or sheding REAL tears and showing REAL emotion .... MOO.

 

[aprilshowers]

And what the heck? They should be STILL questioning EVERY family member on their own (Ron and Crystal I mean), and 'thinking' ... of where Haleigh might be, WHO might have her and WHY.

I'd be going BONKERS just doing nothing! I'd certainly not be getting MARRIED, bothering with all the talk shows and media interviews ... I'd be too BUSY.

MOO

 

[texasmommy39]

(Bold Me)


I've refrained from commenting on your additional opinions (above) - to do so frankly and honestly would likely get me banned. But because you have unabashedly taken the liberty to express your opinion regarding an adult man, 25 years of age, having sexual relations with a 16 year old girl (at the time), I too will take the liberty to say that IT IS A CRIME and just because he wasn't charged and arrested doesn't change the fact that it is a CRIME, additionally, IT IS SEXUALLY ABUSE and not JUST because I say it is, the LAW says that it is also!! Just because you think it's ok along with 30 some-odd percent of the population DOESN'T make it right! and I'm going to stop here on that issue.

IMO you've taken what little evidence there is and you've fit crystal around it, rather than fitting the evidence around the perpertrator - and honestly, at this point, I don't know who's responsible, whether it's family, Ron, Misty, Crystal, Chad, Pervert acquaintance, stranger perv,...not there yet -IMO.

MOO

I would like to add my theory is not to fit the evidence to CS. I have went through all the other possibilities, MC and RC, MC alone or MC and cousin, RSO, SO, stranger and finally CS. My opinion the evidence speaks loud enough to indicate to LE this was not a stranger. My opinion If MC did it she would be in jail right now. If cousin was involved he also would be in jail. There would of been evidence there at the crime scene to indicate the occupants of that home and an arrest would of been made by now. Who is left? RSO and SO. My opinion is Putnam County Sheriff's Office has done there job to exclude the RSO and SO's in there jurisdiction and if not what a blight on the new Sheriff's record. I honestly don't believe this Sheriff will miss a step, to many watching to see the outcome. Thanks to the drama being revealed. I don't believe I am the only one who has done their homework on the facts. There are many great minds here that have done their homework but are being sidetracked by the smoke mirrors that are continually being thrown out to distract. Where is Haleigh is my only question not who spanked her or when and how. My question is where is Haleigh not was RC good to CS during their relationship 3 1/2 years ago. My question is where is Haleigh not do I think it is right or wrong for a 25 year old man to marry a 17 year old. My question is still the same but the answers that are being provided are of deceit and lies.:liar:
WHERE IS HALEIGH?????????:snooty:

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Reading through the Crystal, Ron and Misty threads, it seems as if a lot of posters would prefer to focus on sleuthing out potential locations that Haleigh may have been taken to. Both in-of and out-of state locations have been discussed. Unfortunately the topic seems to be spread across multiple threads and gets kind of lost in the player-focus of those threads.

Any sleuthers have some good ideas as to where Haleigh might have been taken ? How 'bout gathering and evaluating those ideas here ?