Theories on what happened to Haleigh

[titanfan62702]

Is it a confirmed fact that she started to go to the other bathroom? All I've heard her say is that she got up to go to the bathroom and noticed the light on, never made it to the bathroom. I think it was speculation that she was going to use the other one, because of seeing light on. But Ron said that the house is normally dark, and you can see the light shining from the bedroom.

The thing that bothers me so much is that she says she got up, noticed the light, went to check, noticed the door wide open, ran to the bedroom to get her cell phone to call Ron and THEN.... she noticed Haleigh missing. That puzzles me because no matter which side of the bed she was on, once she woke up she should have noticed she wasn't there as soon as she got out of bed!!

I'd give her a break on whether she noticed an empty bed if and I've not heard for sure, her blanket was still on the bed. I'm not giving her the break because I've heard that she got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, and even that Haleigh did.

 

[roseofsharon]

Just a thought and my own opinion ... could there be a kidnapping ring targeting children living in trailer parks. It is too coincidental that Adji and Hayleigh both lived in tp's and both in Florida. FBI should be sending investigators into Mexico as soon as these abductions occur. This abduction was too planned to be some random act.

 

[panthera]

I have been saying Misti was the reason Haleigh is missing and sticking to it - even to the point where I felt she hurt her. Then I had the weirdest, unexpected dream that makes me think again about Misti.

I dreamed Haleigh was in bed and choked on something - first I saw a dice then I saw a balloon. It got lodged in her throat. Misti was not in the room. When Misti checked on Haleigh before going to bed, Haleigh was dead. Misti could not call the police because she was already dead and the house had drugs and stolen stuff. There was a gun and electonics and stuff in the master bedroom she knew she had to get rid of. She covered Haleigh with a sheet - just like she said she did and took the blanket to wash (Haleigh had peed). She wrapped up a bunch of the drugs/stolen stuff and put it in the laundry room. She ran over to get the van, propped the back door open and drove off with Haleigh and the stolen stuff and the drugs. I saw the van leaving into the night but did no recall any more of the dream. Just Misti driving away and the door was still open.

Maybe Misty did not intentionally harm Haleigh - maybe there was an accident and since she was young and probably stoned, she did what she thought would protect her and Ron. Ron goes along with it since he had the drugs and stolen items in the house and if the police found out, he would go to jail AND lose his son.

It's an interesting dream and it seems possible as to what happened. If any part of what Misty's friends said about what she was doing the prior weekend is true, then drugs could've been in the house (at this point I'll say brought in by Misty) and Haleigh could have accidentally swallowed them. Only in this kind of an accident could I see somebody going to such lengths to cover it up and making it look like an intruder abducted Haleigh. MOO

 

[winterrose]

One theory would be,either a cousin came in looking for drugs and/or gun,Haleigh saw him,he took her,she recognized him and she was taken to another state,he didn't know what to do with her.She could have possibly been hurt,but without anyone finding her,maybe still alive and hid.

Or,another theory,someone is being set up by someone.They could plant a suitcase with a map for a family member that had family in like Daytona Beach and Satsuma.They could throw some toys of Haleigh's and car keys.Someone did take the van,wrecked it a little,put it back in a hurry to Chelsea's.Van was examined,no evidence of decomp,from what we understand.It would of ofcourse have dna of all family members.

But then,what if an overzealous PI called another PI,touched the evidence,it would lead to either a set up or someone could get away with abducting Haleigh,because the evidence can't be used now.So,someone abducted Haleigh,stoled a car and took her to another state,or someone is setting up Misty or a relative for a reward.Or setting up one family side,because so far all other efforts have failed,so actually,this is three theories.

There is a fourth,Misty did something to Haleigh,took the van,wrecked it a little,put it back in the driveway to make it look like it was stolen.She could have gotten a suitcase,put some things in it,like a map where a cousin would have been traveling.Threw some of Haleigh's toys,extra set of car keys and inhaler,on the ground.But,the question would be,what did she do with Haleigh?Maybe she was pregnant and she wanted that baby to be Ronald's heart.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(Bold Me)

I agree with most of what you said except for one thing: I don't believe Ron hates Crystal... quite the opposite, I think there are still feelings between them, which is natural because of the two children they had together. I think getting custody of them was partly because it was a way to get her to come back... which she said she did a couple of times, and then left because he continued to abuse her. I'm sure he loves his kids, but he is blind to the fact that their mother loves them as much if not more than he does.
I also agree that someone there wants this swept under the rug... they might think if enough time passes, the public will forget, and Haleigh can come home and all will be will. If Ron is responsible, then he is ignoring the fact that Crystal won't give up, she will keep looking, and if she ends up with Jr. he is going to be paying HER support. If Crystal is responsible, then she stands to lose Jr. and Chloe too, because she would be in jail.
I wish to God that one or the other scenarios is true, and Haleigh is alive and well, but I really don't have much hope of that. My heart goes out to ALL the family on both sides, these little ones do not deserve to be hurt, OR dead.

TxLady2 you are so right! Such a fine line between love and hate...
My concern is that LE in Satsuma, by their complete silence and lack of action in this case, may themselves think that the public will simply forget and the media will go away if they maintain this wall of silence - I think they will be proven wrong and very soon. The public's patience is wearing thin. 62 days have passed - 62 days of silence by LE - proof that their silence has gained them nothing in finding Haleigh or bringing those responsible for her disappearance to justice. I am left to wonder, who has been better served by LE's silence in this case as it certainly has not been Haleigh and that should be their number one concern!

 

[nomoresorrow]

O/T

HAPPY EASTER WS's!

Where Is Haleigh???

 

[wandering]

Ok, so she wasn't wide awake when she got out of bed to go to the bathroom, but she was awake enough to notice the light from the kitchen on, and the back door open, and awake enough to go get her phone to call Ron, BEFORE she noticed Haleigh gone? Got it.
Considering she's not the mother, I can halfway understand that. Haleigh's bed was right inside the door, so was the big bed. If the light was shining into the bedroom, and she was going to the other bathroom, she should have noticed her not there as soon as she got up before she noticed all the other stuff. I'm thinking she might have headed to the master bath and did not look that way, but then she said she never made it to the bathroom. And once she said she got up to get a drink of water, which is it?

Rumpled blankets are very deceiving. Why would she check that first? I would think she would check on the children after she saw the door open.

 

[captdj]

This strikes me as odd also. Mostly because if the door being ajar was the only thing she'd noticed unusual, why was she racing for her phone...? I don't think this alone would be sufficient cause for alarm if all else is normal. Why was she making the call at this point. Just close the door and go back to bed. Not adding up. Not in the order she told it anyway. That time. JMO
arrot:

What I found odd was Misty sleeping on the floor , wakes up realizes the kitchen light is on. My first thoughts would have been... Are the Kids Up????where are the kids and look to make sure both are where they should be. Misty had to roll off the mattress to get up nearly coming face to face to Haleigh in Bed also and with the light on connected the dots unless she was stoned out of her mind.

 

[titanfan62702]

What I found odd was Misty sleeping on the floor , wakes up realizes the kitchen light is on. My first thoughts would have been... Are the Kids Up????where are the kids and look to make sure both are where they should be. Misty had to roll off the mattress to get up nearly coming face to face to Haleigh in Bed also and with the light on connected the dots unless she was stoned out of her mind.

My 1st thought would have been Ron's home. My x worked nights. More often than night I'd wake up & see the light after he was home.

Little ones hide real well in the covers.

 

[awakewriter]

Every day without news, watching the numbers drop on Haleigh's forum, is excruciating.

 

[flyonsweetangel]

*Theory Only*

Hayleigh wets bed/mouths off/whatever and leaves the trailer, she's going to run away to her mom's. Misty is ticked off, props the back door open with a cinder block that was under the trailer and chases her down. Misty finds her at the rr tracks, smacks Hayleigh around and really hurts (kills) her. Misty runs to her brother's home and enlists her brother and/or her sister-in-law to help take care of the body. Misty does NOT go straight home, but goes and gets high/drunk. She arrives home shortly before Ron and points to the propped open back door as evidence that someone stole Hayleigh.

WOW, thats not a bad theory.....I could see that happening! .... Misty doesnt impress me as being screwed to tight nor does RC...

 

[lil momma]

What I found odd was Misty sleeping on the floor , wakes up realizes the kitchen light is on. My first thoughts would have been... Are the Kids Up????where are the kids and look to make sure both are where they should be. Misty had to roll off the mattress to get up nearly coming face to face to Haleigh in Bed also and with the light on connected the dots unless she was stoned out of her mind.

I agree, CaptDJ. Even if MC was on the right side of the bed, she would have had to walk right by HC bed to get to the doorway to the room to even notice the kitchen light was on. i just can't seem to get past that she went back into the room to call RC, so MC walked twice past the bed that HC was lying in, however, even though she was in the little bed by the wall, the police report states that HC and JR were in the bed with MC. (so which is it? was she in the bed with you or not?) Then she calls RC before calling 911? (even though she knew he was already on his way home) i just wish LE would give a little more information.

 

[DotsEyes]

I must have missed something, I never read or heard that MC was sleeping on the floor.

 

[stilettos]

I must have missed something, I never read or heard that MC was sleeping on the floor.

Maybe mattress on the floor = floor to some posters???

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I must have missed something, I never read or heard that MC was sleeping on the floor.

I think the poster meant Haleigh, not Misty.

 

[lil momma]

sorry, if i post this in the wrong area, but has anyone heard that HC was not in school the day before she was reported missing? (on the 9th) i read it on another section on WS and wasn't sure, can someone provide me with the link to this info...this is interresting.

 

[Donjeta]

sorry, if i post this in the wrong area, but has anyone heard that HC was not in school the day before she was reported missing? (on the 9th) i read it on another section on WS and wasn't sure, can someone provide me with the link to this info...this is interresting.

Yes, it would be a very interesting development if true, and it would open up a whole lot of different theories about what could have happened to her over the weekend. Here's the link to a post showing her school attendance record.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3486017&postcount=18

The 9th is a bit unclear. It's either a smudged dot saying she was there or a partial U saying she wasn't. My guess is a smudged dot because IMO it would be stupid and pointless to lie about whether or not she was in school that day since there are too many people who would know that it's a lie and debunk it instantly, and we might have heard about it in the news by now.

 

[lil momma]

Yes, it would be a very interesting development if true, and it would open up a whole lot of different theories about what could have happened to her over the weekend. Here's the link to a post showing her school attendance record.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3486017&postcount=18

The 9th is a bit unclear. It's either a smudged dot saying she was there or a partial U saying she wasn't. My guess is a smudged dot because IMO it would be stupid and pointless to lie about whether or not she was in school that day since there are too many people who would know that it's a lie and debunk it instantly, and we might have heard about it in the news by now.

Thanks Donjeta!!!! it took me a little while to figure out how to read it, but i think i got it. It appears to look like she was present in school on the 9th. i agree with you about the attendence record, to easily to find out the info.

 

[kiki the parrot]

According to my research Ron's now twice former perplord DBard is also owner of at LEAST 20 other properties in same immediate vicinity of Hermit Cove in Satsuma, including...

202 Green La. *Ron's recent addy
2*4 Green La.
2*6 Green La.

1*3 Buchanan *Ron's former addy
11* Buchanan
11* Buchanan
11* Buchanan
12* Buchanan
13* Buchanan
13* Buchanan *vacant lot w dock at end of street

20* Monroe *directly behind is dumpster
20* Monroe *Bard residence
21* Monroe *SO Kyle John's addy

10* Hoover La.
10* Hoover La.

12* Seven Sisters *directly behind 202 Green La
13* Seven Sisters *both listed as Phyllis Bard's

Is there a connection or is it just me and sheer random coincidence that DBard owns virtually every single property in some way associated w this crime, including...

address Ron lives from where Haleigh disappears...
address Ron and Haleigh lived previously to this...
address directly behind which is dumpster dogs hit on...
address up on Monroe loop where dogs tracked...
address where dock is situated on vacant lot at end of street...
address directly behind where Ron lived w Haleigh...
address where SO Kyle Johns rents from them...

:waitasec:

Probably just getting paranoid. Not sure what if anything it means, whether it could even be an associate, repair person, family member or nothing at all, I mean afterall, he owns half the town. Wish I were better at accessing records beyond Putnam Cty ie statewide and farther, data bases to research family members etc. Maybe it's limited to SO perplord connection and nothing more organized or nefarious than that but something's off. JMO

arrot:

 

[nomoresorrow]

(Bold by Me)

According to my research Ron's now twice former perplord DBard is also owner of at LEAST 20 other properties in same immediate vicinity of Hermit Cove in Satsuma, including...

202 Green La. *Ron's recent addy
2*4 Green La.
2*6 Green La.

1*3 Buchanan *Ron's former addy
11* Buchanan
11* Buchanan
11* Buchanan
12* Buchanan
13* Buchanan
13* Buchanan *vacant lot w dock at end of street

20* Monroe *directly behind is dumpster
20* Monroe *Bard residence
21* Monroe *SO Kyle John's addy

10* Hoover La.
10* Hoover La.

12* Seven Sisters *directly behind 202 Green La
13* Seven Sisters *both listed as Phyllis Bard's

Is there a connection or is it just me and sheer random coincidence that DBard owns virtually every single property in some way associated w this crime, including...

address Ron lives from where Haleigh disappears...
address Ron and Haleigh lived previously to this...
address directly behind which is dumpster dogs hit on...
address up on Monroe loop where dogs tracked...
address where dock is situated on vacant lot at end of street...
address directly behind where Ron lived w Haleigh...
address where SO Kyle Johns rents from them...

:waitasec:

Probably just getting paranoid. Not sure what if anything it means, whether it could even be an associate, repair person, family member or nothing at all, I mean afterall, he owns half the town. Wish I were better at accessing records beyond Putnam Cty ie statewide and farther, data bases to research family members etc. Maybe it's limited to SO perplord connection and nothing more organized or nefarious than that but something's off. JMO

arrot:

kiki, Can you tell me what "now twice former perplord DBard" means? I've searched all RSO databases and can't find anything on him. Am I missing something here? If it's information that can't be posted here could you please pm me with it. If what I think your insinuating is true (?) I would indeed be extremely suspicious of this person! - TIA