Theories: Who and Why?

[KeyboardPlayer]

Actually, there IS an entrance GSW at that location, so maybe the word isn't "no"...

 

[little726]

Since we are talking about the autopsies, I have another question.

On pg.10 of Taylor's report, it says "hold for 30 days". But on pg. 10 of Skyla's report it says "hold 5 years." Does anyone know why they would be different?

 

[KeyboardPlayer]

Good question little! I see that is on the "lab analysis" page, so I would assume the blood samples would be held for that length of time. The blood came from Taylor's heart but from Skyla's femoral artery, but I don't see how that would account for the difference in hold times. Maybe a little Googling is in order, I'll see what I can find.

 

[little726]

Good question little! I see that is on the "lab analysis" page, so I would assume the blood samples would be held for that length of time. The blood came from Taylor's heart but from Skyla's femoral artery, but I don't see how that would account for the difference in hold times. Maybe a little Googling is in order, I'll see what I can find.

Thank you, Keyboard. I have no idea where to start on Google...lol.

 

[KeyboardPlayer]

Oh, I do. Google.com. LOL Just kidding I haven't many ideas what the search terms should be though...

 

[Boots-OK]

And how in the world would they possibly know this unless they are completely relying on a supposed witness claiming to have seen the girls?
How reliable is that witness and who is it? I wish we knew.

YD - IIRC - LE said they were able to "track" the girls and knew they had made it to the bridge and back to where they were murdered. I suppose a witness could have provided info but I assumed LE meant they tracked footprints, scent...etc

 

[Ruflossn]

Hi guys~
There was a witness (that has remained unnamed) that reportedly saw the girls just moments before they were killed. I believe that LE followed tracks of the girls, and probably eye-witness accounts to determine the path that the girls took. I do believe they made it to the bridge and were on their way back to Taylor's when they were killed. As always, this is just my opinion.

 

[YellowDog]

YD - IIRC - LE said they were able to "track" the girls and knew they had made it to the bridge and back to where they were murdered. I suppose a witness could have provided info but I assumed LE meant they tracked footprints, scent...etc

Yes, that's possible if their shoes had distinctive footprints.

 

[Claycat]

Flossie, you were talking about the blood. This person was there soon after the crime, so he saw the scene before it rained. He thought it was odd that there wasn't more blood.

This theory could explain the abrasions on both girls as well as where the little dog was left and was on it's way home when found..

It's amazing that you thought of that! That fits this theory perfectly. If the girls were picked up at the bridge and transported in a truck, the little Chihuahua wouldn't be able to follow, so it would just stay there waiting for them to come back.

I just don't know what to think. And LE did say that they had made it to the bridge and back to where they were killed. Hmmmmmm

Well, they know they went to the bridge, because a witness saw them at the bridge, however the witness has never told when this was, from what I understand. Yes, they did make it back, but maybe there weren't returning footprints. Maybe this person checked it out. He is know to be very close to the land. ???

But Skyla was shot more times than Taylor leading me to believe she was the main target.

Yes, but Taylor was shot in the mouth. Payback for talking. It makes sense. Besides, this was near Taylor's home. Not that you aren't right! I was just thinking of the logistics.

 

[Claycat]

Again, thinking in terms of this theory, it's possible that the truck was there so the girls could be thrown out by the side of the rode. According to where Skyla's body was, she could have been dragged by the feet. She may have already been by the side of the road when the witnesses passed. If they passed on the other side of the truck, they might not have been able to see her. The other perp may have dragged her over there. Then the witnesses passed, and the perp by the truck had to look busy, because he didn't want them to realize they were taking bodies out of the truck. Then, after the witnesses left, they hurried and threw Taylor's body out of the truck and that's why she was closer to the road. They knew they had to get out of there before someone else came or the witnesses came back to look.

That's just my little theory based on the other theory I posted.


Something else we need to do is throw out any time line we had before. There are as many as 4 or 5 different possibilities, according to local rumor. It has been said that the girls could have left the house as early as 3:00 PM. No one is really certain. The only time we can be certain of is the time of the 911 call. I believe it was at 5:41 PM.

It has been said that the girls may have been killed around 4:00 or 4:15. After all, there is no time of death on the autopsy reports. That has been withheld. Only LE knows the time of death. The shots that were heard between 5 - 5:30 may have had nothing to do with the murder.

 

[Lauren - CA]

But Skyla was shot more times than Taylor leading me to believe she was the main target.

If we are to believe that they were shot where
they stood, this could be easily explained. I believe Taylor was shot first. Skyla would have instinctively turned to run, but was shot several times to stop her. I believe some of the entrance wounds on her arm point to this.

I am really troubled by the new rumor of the girls being killed elsewhere and dumped on the side of the road. I guess because it does make sense. What bothers me the most though, is that JB definitely said that the girls were killed on the spot, didn't have time to react. Why lie?

They also said they definitely know the time of death. Several timelines have been thrown out there but I believe that a mother would know the last time she spoke to her child. I believe Rose stated she called Skyla around 4:30 p.m. What we don't know is if the girls were at the Plackers or on their fatal walk.

The rumor does make sense to me though. Could the girls have been at the bridge, picked up by someone they knew, killed in the vehicle, and then dumped by the side of the road? Could this be what the POI was doing when the witnesses saw him?? If so, where was the other person? Maybe the other killer/killers left the dirty work to the POI and they went home to change/create an alibi? We always thought the timeline was tight, could this explain it? The fact the girls didn't walk back but were picked up?

Even so, certain things don't make sense. The position of the purse. Would a killer take the time to position a purse that way? What about DNA? Wouldn't someone be afraid that all that contact would give LE tons of DNA to work with. I'm not so sure that we can accept that rumor as truth just yet.

All I know is that I can't wait for the day that these killers pay the ultimate for their actions on June 8th.

 

[KeyboardPlayer]

All excellent questions, Lauren. I'm not sure how accurate a time-of-death would be based on liver temp, but I wouldn't think it would be down to the second, and we don't even know what the TOD is, so I guess it doesn't really matter at this point. The only thing I know for sure is that I wholeheartedly agree with the last sentence of your post. Cheers!

 

[Ruflossn]

Even so, certain things don't make sense. The position of the purse. Would a killer take the time to position a purse that way? What about DNA? Wouldn't someone be afraid that all that contact would give LE tons of DNA to work with. I'm not so sure that we can accept that rumor as truth just yet.



All I know is that I can't wait for the day that these killers pay the ultimate for their actions on June 8th.

Hi Lauren~
Did I miss something about the purse being positioned a certain way? All I remember is that the purse was on her left shoulder. And I agree with Keyboardplayer, your last sentence is exactly how I feel.

 

[Trino]

I think LE must have proof the girls were killed where they were found, so I'll stick with their theory.

I don't accept the idea, however, that OSBI has secret info that they're keeping close; I truly believe they have few clues and no real suspects, and I'm concerned that OSBI has not asked the public for more help. If the killers are local, I think by now someone would have talked or broken upon questioning.

Will the case be solved? We all hope and pray for answers; it's been too long already.

 

[sheza]

Rose calls Peter Placker 5:08(OSBI BR stated) Rose tells PP she's on her way to get Skya
Rose calls her parents 5:20, PP called Rose then Rose called her parents (Rose new something bad had happened before she got to Plackers)

911 call 5:41

I do not think Plackers know what time the girls went outside or even that they had went to the bridge. I don't believe they even tried to call or look for them untill Rose called (probably because they hadn't seen them most of the day) Why go look for them, IF the girls had only been gone 20 minutes like PP said ,the girls would be back way before Rose got there, why worry.
Rose would see them at the bridge or on the road walking anyway.
Somethings not quite right.
My Opinion Only

 

[Albert18]

It is really inexcusable that LE hasn't released a detailed description of what was going on at the Placker home that day.

LE is either trying to protect the Placker's because the girls may have been left alone that day or this is another one of LE's silly little games. I think the murder of two girls would trump either one of these reasons but I guess LE thinks differently.

I like the idea that what we know doesn't make sense because what we know isn't correct.

In the Caylee Anthony case the mother is playing games, in this case LE is playing games. How bizarre.

 

[Mysterylover]

Hi guys~
There was a witness (that has remained unnamed) that reportedly saw the girls just moments before they were killed.
I believe that LE followed tracks of the girls, and probably eye-witness accounts to determine the path that the girls took.
I do believe they made it to the bridge and were on their way back to Taylor's when they were killed.
As always, this is just my opinion...

Ruflossn, I'm not convinced, never have been.
The reason I'm not convinced is: This whole time frame, places and things said, has never 'felt right' to me.

1. The time frame, Rose called Skyla at 4:30 pm and S. said she and Taylor were at the Plackers?? were they? IF TRUE, with whom at the P's.?

2. The girls did not answer their phone at 5:08 pm...so they walked to the bridge knowing Rose was on her way to pick up Skyla, without Skyla's overnight bag,
yet Taylor carried a large bag and her dog.
Why wasn't Skyla carrying her overnight bag, since her Mom was on her way? and why was S. wearing he 'house slippers'?

Yet, they were just about back to the Plackers and already murdered before 5:08 pm???...in less than 40 minutes?
It's just a coincidence the killer was at the road to shoot the girls in that 40 minute time frame...I don't buy it.

3. What if the girls walked to the bridge several times, earlier that day, disobeying the P's, No..
4. What if, someone was at the P's that the girls was scared of or had roughed the girls up?
5. The girls had NOT had anything to eat or drink for over 8 hours....why?
6. The little dog was found at the bridge the next day, headed home..
7. What time did the autopsy say the girls were killed?
8. What was the condition and amount of the blood, etc. when LE arrived?
9. Does the 4-wheeler seen near the P's on Saturday have some connection to this?
10. Why the expensive .40 cal. Glock the girls were shot with, which uses expensive bullets for this gun? Is a Glock a target gun or a defense gun?
11. Did anyone in the P. family own a Glock?
A big question that should not be overlooked is, WHO was at the P. house that Sunday and why?
What IF the girls were shot on the P. property, near bridge or elsewhere and put near the road and shot several more times to throw LE off, thus the extra shots to each girl will be the ONLY bullets LE finds???..jmo

 

[Claycat]

It is really inexcusable that LE hasn't released a detailed description of what was going on at the Placker home that day.

LE is either trying to protect the Placker's because the girls may have been left alone that day or this is another one of LE's silly little games. I think the murder of two girls would trump either one of these reasons but I guess LE thinks differently.

I like the idea that what we know doesn't make sense because what we know isn't correct.

In the Caylee Anthony case the mother is playing games, in this case LE is playing games. How bizarre.

It is bizarre, Albert! That is why these cases grab us and won't let go. It's not just because Caylee, Skyla, and Taylor were such precious girls, but because the circumstances are so strange!

 

[Ruflossn]

Ruflossn, I'm not convinced, never have been.
The reason I'm not convinced is: This whole time frame, places and things said has never 'felt right' to me.

1. The time frame, Rose called Skyla at 4:30 pm and S. said she and Taylor were at the Plackers?? were they? IF TRUE, with whom at the P's.?

2. The girls did not answer their phone at 5:08 pm...so they walked to the bridge knowing Rose was on her way to pick up Skyla, without Skyla's overnight bag, yet Taylor carried a large bag and her dog.

Yet, they were just about back to the Plackers and already murdered before 5:08 pm???...in less than 40 minutes?
It's just a coincidence the killer was at the road to shoot the girls in that 40 minute time frame...I don't buy it.

3. What if the girls walked to the bridge several times, earlier that day.

4. The girls had NOT had anything to eat or drink for over 8 hours.
5. The little dog was found at the bridge the next day, headed home..
6. What time did the autopsy say the girls were killed?
7. What was the condition and amount of the blood, etc. when LE arrived?

What IF the girls were shot on the P. property, near bridge or elsewhere and put near the road and shot several more times to throw LE off, thus the extra shots to each girl will be the ONLY bullets LE finds???..jmo

Hi Letsthink~
Are you not convinced that there was a witness that saw the girls shortly before they were murdered?

I have never believed the time frame that was given by LE. I believe the girls had left the Plackers much earlier than 4:30.

Flossie

 

[Mysterylover]

Personally, I think PP did kill the girls.

#1 why did it take so long to call 911.

# 2 It always bother me that he Kept repeating over and over. "I described it once and I'm not going to again. (maybe he was afraid he would contradict himself?

#3 I think maybe he WAS sexually abusing the girls in some way.

#4 More so now than ever, there seems to be some "problems" between Vickie and Peter. This is my opinion only....

Sooner...that's what Roy on Topix said in the beginning of this case....a tight time frame on a dirt road and no one sees anything?

What if: P was 'tripping on something' and was angry and snapped because the girls had 'disobeyed' by leaving the house when he had said NO, not answering their phone,

and he and V. had to stop what they were doing, (shopping, visiting, eating) and drive home early to look for them?

P, the uncle, someone visiting the P.'s, teens or gang payback ???...

Could Rose have been kept from seeing the girls because she could recognize the girls had been shot minutes before she arrived??... speculation only