Theory #2: Family Abduction by George Waters with George Brody and/or Associates

[q64ceo]

mont=Altamont california? its in the Oakland area

 

[Dr. Doogie]

ok, so L's could refer to Lloyd's of London. The use of the words "final arrangements" always reminds me of funeral plans.

Once again, you guys are good! "L's" could very well be Lloyd's. Whatever the "final arrangements" were, they were something that involved Anna that was to happen January 1973.

I just don't understand the need to list Anna as the beneficiary, raise the amount 3 months later, then change the beneficiary. Why not put the intended beneficiary in the first place? What would be the benefit of that?

This does not make a lot of sense to me either. It appears that the two Georges had already established Brody as the beneficiary two years earlier on the Lloyd's policy, so why is this happening in late 1972? That is why I believe that this note relates to more than just a beneficiary change.

 

[SherlockJr]

Looking back at this note again, #2 ...with ACE as B.... really looks more like an "L".... the scribbly marks made the "L" look like a B. And why is it underlined twice??? The way it is underlined, maybe originally nothing was intended to go after the "L" just like in #4 the B underlined all by itself.

 

[PonderingThings]

This does not make a lot of sense to me either. It appears that the two Georges had already established Brody as the beneficiary two years earlier on the Lloyd's policy, so why is this happening in late 1972? That is why I believe that this note relates to more than just a beneficiary change.

Actually the note is not dated... it could have been written after Jan 1973 or way before... all that is indicated is Jan 1973 is significant....

 

[SherlockJr]

Pondering, most people don't plan the past... and I know the George's were not like most people. It is believed this was written prior to 1973. Although he speaks in past tense say "have been made". Something to consider!

 

[itsreenw]

that's definitely "Beneficiary"- the "f" is prominent as is the "y" at the end. It does look like he may have started off with "L" and realized he was writing the wrong word. He then spelled out Beneficiary

 

[PonderingThings]

Sherlockjr your point is well taken about people not planning the past. What I was referring to was perhaps the final arrangements have been completed for the incident that began/occured in Jan 1973.

L's = Lawsuit?
L's = Losses?
L's = Links?
L's = Liabilities?
L's = Legal changes/alterations?

L's could be a lot of things.

1. Contact (undecipherable, looks like "mome") (a p with a line above it) Final arrangements (a c with a line above it) L's have been made. Jan 1973

 

[q64ceo]

could the c with the line over it mean "care of"?

the p could stand for per, as in "per final"

 

[SherlockJr]

Is it possible to contact Lloyds of London to find out if a payout was made after January of 1973 to anyone? Annasmom may have enough information in this note to have the FBI get involved and re-investigate Anna's dissapearance.

 

[q64ceo]

ignore that c A.C.E. and it says, apply for 100,000 as B. That could mean that he applied to be the benneficiary of ACE.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

The letter from Waters to Brody announcing his "birthday gift" of the policy does list policy numbers so it would be able to be tracked as far as a payout. However, it is an "Accidental Death" policy, so I cannot see how a payment would have been made. That being said, I will try and contact Lloyd's and see if any additional info can be gleaned from this.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Is it possible to contact Lloyds of London to find out if a payout was made after January of 1973 to anyone? Annasmom may have enough information in this note to have the FBI get involved and re-investigate Anna's dissapearance.

I believe that the note is suspicious enough that had it been discovered in the months after Anna's disappearance, LE could have used it to bring in the two Georges and "sweated" them with interrogation. Unfortunately, with both George's dead, I am not sure how interested LE would be today.

 

[SherlockJr]

Anna is still a missing person. Skip the LE and go higher.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Anna is still a missing person. Skip the LE and go higher.

Higher, as in the FBI?

 

[SherlockJr]

Higher, as in the FBI?

:clap:

 

[SherlockJr]

Sherlockjr your point is well taken about people not planning the past. What I was referring to was perhaps the final arrangements have been completed for the incident that began/occured in Jan 1973.

L's = Lawsuit?
L's = Losses?
L's = Links?
L's = Liabilities?
L's = Legal changes/alterations?

L's could be a lot of things.

1. Contact (undecipherable, looks like "mome") (a p with a line above it) Final arrangements (a c with a line above it) L's have been made. Jan 1973

Sometime in late 60's there was a lawfirm called Lyons & Lyons located in San Mateo county. Don't know if this firm was still around in 1973.

 

[petra]

I have just spent my morning digging through the Box from Hell, reviewing copies of dozens of insurance policies that might relate to the note that we have been discussing. A few observations:

1. All of the policies seem to been generated between late 1973 and 1975.

2. None of the policies have Anna listed as the beneficiary, but that may be because they were generated after Anna's disappearance.

3. All of the policies list "George Brody, Friend" as the beneficiary. Some of the policies show Brody as a "change in beneficiary", but no records exist that show who the original beneficiary was. A few of the policies have letters from Waters naming Brody as the "Irrevocable Beneficiary" where even Waters could not remove Brody as the benefiociary without Brody's written permission.


keeping an open mind about this--and placing myself in the Georges' shoes, this makes sense to me.

Anna was "lost" in Jan 1973. As a crushed, griefing parent who could be scared or terrified by this event....perhaps Dr Waters, since he was the only breadwinner in the twosome took these policies out to provide for Brody (maybe at Brody's suggestion) in case something "accidental" happened to him---just like it happened to Anna.
Dr Waters may have taken these policies, out of fear that perhaps something similar could happen to him, like happened to Anna......just disappearing

4. None of the policies were traditional life insurance where the benefits would be paid out upon the death of the insured for any reason. These were all "Accidental Death and Dismemberment" policies that frequently are offered through credit card companies as an added benefit of membership (Shell Oil, Sears, etc.) These are usually very low monthy cost policies where premiums are charged to the members credit card and require very little paperwork to apply for.

keeping an open mind about this--and placing myself in the Georges' shoes, this makes sense to me.

Anna was "lost" in Jan 1973. As a crushed, griefing parent who could be scared or terrified by this event....perhaps Dr Waters, since he was the only breadwinner in the twosome took these policies out to provide for Brody (maybe at Brody's suggestion) in case something "accidental" happened to him---just like it happened to Anna.
Dr Waters may have taken these policies, out of fear that perhaps something similar could happen to him, like happened to Anna......just disappearing

 

[natasha-cupcake]

could the c with the line over it mean "care of"?

the p could stand for per, as in "per final"

As a few others have mentioned already, "c" with a line above means "with" and "p" with a line above means "after" or "following". These are both extremely common shortcuts used in medical notes.

I've been following this case for a while and I believe this just may be one of the biggest breaks in figuring out what could have happened to this darling little girl.

Good work, Websleuthers!

 

[Annasmom]

As a few others have mentioned already, "c" with a line above means "with" and "p" with a line above means "after" or "following". These are both extremely common shortcuts used in medical notes.

I've been following this case for a while and I believe this just may be one of the biggest breaks in figuring out what could have happened to this darling little girl.

Good work, Websleuthers!

Natasha-Cupcake, I was just about to suggest that the "p" meant "post" or "after"--it does change the meaning of the note. Thanks for your input!

 

[Annasmom]

MONT- Montesano, WA

Annasbro, do any of these look familiar?

Itsreenw, I'm not sure how often Annasbro checks in to the forum these days, so I have printed out the license plate pictures and am mailing them to him. I'm amazed that you were able to get these. Maybe they will trigger some memory for him. Thank you.