Theory Theory - Theories about why - Something else

[pitbull]

LE is obviously withholding a fair amount of evidence we are not privy to. Any theory is fair game at this point. I've always been in the fake ransom note camp....written by opportunists that had inside knowledge of the initial crime scene response.

I believe she was literally taken from her bed. Nanos alluded to this early on and tried to walk it back. NG did not have her hearing aids in. Very easy for the perp/s to make their way into her bedroom unheard. LE also stated she was taken against her will. I take that as a sign of a struggle in the home. How much of a struggle? Only LE knows based on their evidence.

IMO, the images of LG were from the same day. He may have left his kit off to the side in the no backpack image and figured the coast is clear . His clothing choice, reflective pack, bulky gloves and appendix/Mexican gun carry, is not the mark of a master criminal. This perp is no rocket surgeon. He had no way of knowing if NG had a paid Nest subscription that could identify him/them. Extraordinarily lucky!! For me, that's a big tell. A full backpack...change of clothes, sheets, tarp? He seems to lollygag around the porch while looking for anything to cover the door camera. It just doesn't look measured and calculated. IMO, he is waiting for his accomplice to let him in.

The bite light has always intrigued me. Not an easy little contraption to light on and off while in your mouth. He knew how to use it without any problem. Who uses bite lights? People that need to work in tight dark spaces while needing both hands....electricians, plumbers, mechanics, etc.

There was no "round up the women and children, there's a killer on the loose!!!" talk in the immediate aftermath of NG's abduction. This after he already KNEW a horrible crime had been committed. IMO, Nanos is correct...she was targeted. But why take her? If this were revenge for something she said or knew, why not leave a body behind? Very risky removing a body. Again, these perps were no masterminds. I think they panicked in their 40 minutes. Maybe they left DNA on the body and HAD to take her?

So, I'm thinking day laborers from the immediate area were hired to do this. The day laborers community is very tight knit. They can make an escape vehicle disappear in the blink of an eye. A 10 million dollar reward was offered for Pablo Escobar...no one blabbed. I don't believe she's south of the border. Way too risky to make a border crossing with a body.

Something else that's telling....Nanos said NG was targeted and they think they know why. Think about that. I'm not aware of any special security provided to SG's family, AG or her brother after this crime. Leads me to believe the Guthrie family, outside of NG, had nothing to do with a revenge crime against them.

I wouldn't rule out a political grievance as well. Why no proof of life if you go through the trouble of kidnapping someone for money? Better yet, some proof, ANY proof that you have her...favorite color, TV show, etc.

It doesn't sound like a ransom situation when they state they think they know why she was abducted.


LE is withholding evidence that is paramount to anything we know or could even imagine. MOO, IMO...and all that jazz.

 

[Chimera]

This thread just popped up in my alerts right now.
Was going to say a while back now that Sheriff Nanos and anyone else in LE may need to release more information.
Sad that it seems to be going cold.
Omo.

 

[candyg!rl]

I’m not convinced inheritance would be a motive here, but I’m trying to understand how it actually works legally.

If someone goes missing and is never found—especially someone elderly and already in poor health—what happens with their will and estate? Do things just stay in limbo until they’re officially declared deceased, or can that process be sped up given their age and condition?

Also, is there any potential advantage (financial or otherwise) to a situation where a person’s death isn’t immediately confirmed? For example, would delaying a legal declaration of death change anything about how assets are handled or distributed?

Genuinely asking from a legal/logistical standpoint, not implying anything—just trying to understand how that side of it works.

 

[su5ie]

Perps sick fantasy , whatever that may be , Freudian concept ,Oedipus complex carried from childhood , fixation on mother , attraction to older woman motherly types .

Anything is possible if it wasn't because of SG or financial gain or political agenda or even revenge for a precieved slight

 

[Ghostwheel]

I’m not convinced inheritance would be a motive here, but I’m trying to understand how it actually works legally.

If someone goes missing and is never found—especially someone elderly and already in poor health—what happens with their will and estate? Do things just stay in limbo until they’re officially declared deceased, or can that process be sped up given their age and condition?

Also, is there any potential advantage (financial or otherwise) to a situation where a person’s death isn’t immediately confirmed? For example, would delaying a legal declaration of death change anything about how assets are handled or distributed?

Genuinely asking from a legal/logistical standpoint, not implying anything—just trying to understand how that side of it works.

The answer is that it depends. On state rules, if it's a revocable trust, if it's a regular trust, if it's not a trust at all, what the will says, what the trust says (if it is one), etc. You catch the drift. In my state, a person must be continuous missing for five years, then you have to petition the court to have them declared deceased. I'm not seeing a big advantage in general for any kind of inheritance to have to wait 5 years, but there could be some kind of provision in a trust or will that could make it so.

Inheritance is a very bad reason to make someone go missing, IMO.

 

[Ghostwheel]

One more thing. IF it is a revocable trust, NG cannot administer it herself at this time, so whoever her designated trustee is will decide how to manage the assets, IME. Obviously someone would need to pay house tax and maintenence on the house. This could include selling the house if it is in the trust. But everything must be accounted for if she also has a will (which is normal, for a revocable trust anyway) because someone can't just sell the house if it was promised to someone in the will, as an example. At least in my state, which is NOT AZ.

My guess is that they will hang on to everything until it becomes unfeasible or too painful to do so. JMO, though.