This thread is for posters that believe Calee is still alive #5

[CaliMama]

I really believe she is alive and think KC has told her parents the truth about what happened. (not that she has much credibility with anything) but I do believe she came forward with something and is why there is a change in behavior with the parents and the comment recently from her laywer. There is something coming soon to the surface. Its just all too bizarre. Maybe I do not want to believe a mother could do this too, but it is a lot more if you look @ everything. KC has definatley been deceptive about Caylee but I am not convinced it is about her death.

I have always thought she was safe somewhere with people who love her...can't explain why they won't come forward or any of that...but I am with you here Never thought she was kidnapped; always thought that it was orchestrated somehow and KC was involved in that.

 

[CHICANA]

LOL! Great story!!! And I think it's great that you and your boyfriend worked out your differences and married!! I love the part about how they put their guns on the table thinking they were all cool.. Too funny!

Thanks. It cracks me up thinkin' about it too. They were soo dramatic! And it was awfully nice of them to take out my trash while they were on duty. That must have been the 'serve' part of 'to protect and serve.' Funny, I can't remember their names. Tim & Joe?? Makes me want to sing 'Memories'.

But I do understand why Casey wouldn't trust LE. + She knew so many. Also IMO Jessie G left LE because of some possibly enethical practiced within the force. This is just a hunch based on what his father said. I'm sure he told Casey all about it.

 

[CaliMama]

For the most part I think most LE is good UNLESS you cross them or waste their time which Casey obviously has. I think it also depends on the area. I live in a smaller suburb in Missouri and I think our police force is awesome.
I lived in Kansas City KS and I know for a fact that many of the cops there are corrupt. There are a lot of illegals in KC KS and LE steals from them when they pull them over or if they get arrested their $$ is gone when they get their wallets back. I've also heard of them busting illegals with cocaine in bathrooms of clubs and taking the drugs and not arresting anybody.
Personally, when I was younger, thinner, cuter and dumber I had called the cops after a fight with my boyfriend and the 2 cops that showed up took out my trash then they came back after they got off with a 12 pack of Corona.
It was funny because they took their guns out and layed them very dramatically on my coffee table. They thought they were so cool. Ok, bad confession... the boyfriend is now my husband of 11 years and father of our two beautiful children but back in the day I'd get pretty crazy when we'd fight and the night after the 2 cops showed up I was driving with a 12 pack of bud light in the car when a cop pulled me over with lights flashing.
Not to fear, it was my 2 buddies from the night before. They didn't arrest me or even tell me to go home, they invited me to drink with them behind the police station when their shift ended. All the other cops drank back there too!! I didn't go because I got back with my boyfriend/hubby. I'm just sayin'.
Ahh the good old days. I can't believe I survived them without getting arrested.

Chicana,

I used to live in KC/KS too (this was the worst 8 months of my entire life)...but I am from Missouri and now live in L.A . My stepdad (who was a police officer in MO) used to tell me how they had to be friends with certain criminals to get closer to the criminal that they wanted to catch...they maintained these relationships with criminals - I guess we would call them informants or something.

So my thoughts are...what if KC was one of those criminals...the "stepping stone" criminal to something bigger?

I don't want our thread to bash LE (because I love police officers being the daughter of one)...this isn't what I am implying...I am wondering if there might be a layer to this that no one has explored yet.

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

No worries

Jbean, you are a Godsend to this thread.

Thank you for all that you do here; we really do appreciate your continuous efforts. :clap:

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

Heres a theory.

Caylee's father is alive and well, and knows he is her dad. He could have had problems with the Anthonys as far as being able to see Caylee....especially if he is hispanic/puerto rican, mixed.
If he has family out of the country, Caylee could have been taken to Mexico or Puerto Rico, and is being cared for by his family. The family could be prejudiced against whites, and possibly angry at the way Caylee is being raised....especially if the A's have been keeping Caylee away from them.

It would be extremely difficult to get Caylee back if she was indeed taken across the border. If she was flown to Texas, or CA, it would be easy to cross to Mexico. She could have fake papers that were shown to the border patrol when they crossed.
(although I dont think a passport is needed to cross into Puerto Rico, is it?)

Illegals have lots of connections and no problem having fake id's made up.

PR is USA territory, so no passport is needed.

As well, I don't believe that if Caylee is found to be in PR that it would make it anymore difficult to bring her back for the very same reason - it is USA territory.

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

Thanks. It cracks me up thinkin' about it too. They were soo dramatic! And it was awfully nice of them to take out my trash while they were on duty. That must have been the 'serve' part of 'to protect and serve.' Funny, I can't remember their names. Tim & Joe?? Makes me want to sing 'Memories'.

But I do understand why Casey wouldn't trust LE. + She knew so many. Also IMO Jessie G left LE because of some possibly enethical practiced within the force. This is just a hunch based on what his father said. I'm sure he told Casey all about it.

It brings a whole new light to "Sleeping with the Enemy", that's for sure.

 

[CHICANA]

Chicana,

I used to live in KC/KS too (this was the worst 8 months of my entire life)...but I am from Missouri and now live in L.A . My stepdad (who was a police officer in MO) used to tell me how they had to be friends with certain criminals to get closer to the criminal that they wanted to catch...they maintained these relationships with criminals - I guess we would call them informants or something.

So my thoughts are...what if KC was one of those criminals...the "stepping stone" criminal to something bigger?

I don't want our thread to bash LE (because I love police officers being the daughter of one)...this isn't what I am implying...I am wondering if there might be a layer to this that no one has explored yet.

I see where you're going with this but KC knew Jessie G for some time and I think she met some of her 'friends' through him + the cop that she was involved with recently got fired because he lied about having anything to do with her. I'm not trying to criticize LE either but I think there are some cities that have more police corruption.

 

[CaliMama]

I see where you're going with this but KC knew Jessie G for some time and I think she met some of her 'friends' through him + the cop that she was involved with recently got fired because he lied about having anything to do with her. I'm not trying to criticize LE either but I think there are some cities that have more police corruption.

You are right about those LE connections with JG.

I am trying to think like her. Being the daughter (really the step daughter of LE)...I have always had this mmm....notion that I can charm any LE because I know them so well...I know their secrets and know how they think. It has worked with me with the LAPD so far

People have specualted that she was an escort. I think this came after JG...and I don't want to really say my thoughts because they might be banned. Let's just say what if LE knows about certain escort services or actually may be involved in certain escort services...it wouldn't be the first time this has happened

This might need to be moved to a different thread. I don't want to get in trouble.

 

[JBean]

You are right about those LE connections with JG.

I am trying to think like her. Being the daughter (really the step daughter of LE)...I have always had this mmm....notion that I can charm any LE because I know them so well...I know their secrets and know how they think. It has worked with me with the LAPD so far

People have specualted that she was an escort. I think this came after JG...and I don't want to really say my thoughts because they might be banned. Let's just say what if LE knows about certain escort services or actually may be involved in certain escort services...it wouldn't be the first time this has happened

This might need to be moved to a different thread. I don't want to get in trouble.

YOU ARE IN SO MUCH TROUBLE NOW.:woohoo:

seriously, just make sure you all stay on topic.

 

[CHICANA]

You are right about those LE connections with JG.

I am trying to think like her. Being the daughter (really the step daughter of LE)...I have always had this mmm....notion that I can charm any LE because I know them so well...I know their secrets and know how they think. It has worked with me with the LAPD so far

People have specualted that she was an escort. I think this came after JG...and I don't want to really say my thoughts because they might be banned. Let's just say what if LE knows about certain escort services or actually may be involved in certain escort services...it wouldn't be the first time this has happened

This might need to be moved to a different thread. I don't want to get in trouble.

Ahh.... I think I'm following you. Unfortunately I gotta get to bed. We're taking the kids to World's of Fun tomorrow. I'm sure you know how exhausting that can be, especially with a 7 & 8 year old.

 

[CaliMama]

YOU ARE IN SO MUCH TROUBLE NOW.:woohoo:

seriously, just make sure you all stay on topic.

Thanks! I am still learning. I just realized that this was getting to be a different topic altogether! A theory thread probably.

 

[JBean]

Thanks! I am still learning. I just realized that this was getting to be a different topic altogether! A theory thread probably.

Not a problem. It can be very hard to stay on topic..especially with this case..carry on!

 

[Cerenity2u]

I have been debating whether or not to come to this thread, my curiosity got the better of me and I really wanted to read your opinions and reasoning. I have my own opinion, and this thread is not an appropriate place to discuss it, as I will respect the purpose of this thread. That being said, I read everyone's views with an open mind and a couple of posts grabbed my attention.
Those who are on the fence about the decomp. in the trunk, there are a couple of things that may help reinforce your hope for Caylee. Remember when a reporter started to question GA about the test results and the fact that it showed decomposition, and how angry he became? I remember the statement he made very well, because it has haunted me a bit and I can't get it out of my mind. He stated very angrily and matter of fact "Because the person in the back of that car is the one who took my granddaughter"! Why would he say that? OK...I took it as, he acknowleged there was decomp. in the trunk, but it was not Caylee's, but rather the person who took her. I am on dial up still, so I really can't search all the media video's to look for a link for you all...but I am sure those of you with high speed can find that video and view for yourselves.

Also, about the hair strands with death rings found in the trunk...and this will also be argued in court by defense. It is a fact that if a strand of hair or hairs pulled from a "live" person, has enough tissue from the root/scalp still attached and it doesn't take much, the live tissue will start to decompose and could cause death rings in the hair. This "could" be an explanation for the death rings in the hair, found in the trunk. It doesn't prove the hair 100% positively came from that of a deceased body.

This case is so bizzare, and we don't have all the evidence available to us. All we can do is sort through what is out there for us, and form opinions based on the info given us. While some are concluding the worse, and some are holding on to hope that she is still alive, one thing we all have in common is the fact that we all want little Caylee found. I'm glad for this thread, somebody has to have hope for Caylee, and it also shows that there are still people in the world who are waiting for all the facts to come in, before losing that hope. I will admit, if I ever go missing, I hope there are people like you still around who still have hope, until proven otherwise. Hope keeps people looking. raying:

 

[?everything]

This case is so bizzare, and we don't have all the evidence available to us. All we can do is sort through what is out there for us, and form opinions based on the info given us. While some are concluding the worse, and some are holding on to hope that she is still alive, one thing we all have in common is the fact that we all want little Caylee found. I'm glad for this thread, somebody has to have hope for Caylee, and it also shows that there are still people in the world who are waiting for all the facts to come in, before losing that hope. I will admit, if I ever go missing, I hope there are people like you still around who still have hope, until proven otherwise. Hope keeps people looking. raying:

hope you do not mind the snip. Bye the way all of your post was right on. Thanks for taking the time. The one thing that leads me to believe that Caylee is alive is there is no evidence that she is dead. The LE has this as a missing child case. There is no evidence brought before the courts to say other wise. So until there is evidence in the court then they are still looking for a live Caylee. Until then people can have their own opinion and I respect them. This is the USA innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

 

[yankeesbelle04]

I have been debating whether or not to come to this thread, my curiosity got the better of me and I really wanted to read your opinions and reasoning. I have my own opinion, and this thread is not an appropriate place to discuss it, as I will respect the purpose of this thread. That being said, I read everyone's views with an open mind and a couple of posts grabbed my attention.
Those who are on the fence about the decomp. in the trunk, there are a couple of things that may help reinforce your hope for Caylee. Remember when a reporter started to question GA about the test results and the fact that it showed decomposition, and how angry he became? I remember the statement he made very well, because it has haunted me a bit and I can't get it out of my mind. He stated very angrily and matter of fact "Because the person in the back of that car is the one who took my granddaughter"! Why would he say that? OK...I took it as, he acknowleged there was decomp. in the trunk, but it was not Caylee's, but rather the person who took her. I am on dial up still, so I really can't search all the media video's to look for a link for you all...but I am sure those of you with high speed can find that video and view for yourselves.

Also, about the hair strands with death rings found in the trunk...and this will also be argued in court by defense. It is a fact that if a strand of hair or hairs pulled from a "live" person, has enough tissue from the root/scalp still attached and it doesn't take much, the live tissue will start to decompose and could cause death rings in the hair. This "could" be an explanation for the death rings in the hair, found in the trunk. It doesn't prove the hair 100% positively came from that of a deceased body.

This case is so bizzare, and we don't have all the evidence available to us. All we can do is sort through what is out there for us, and form opinions based on the info given us. While some are concluding the worse, and some are holding on to hope that she is still alive, one thing we all have in common is the fact that we all want little Caylee found. I'm glad for this thread, somebody has to have hope for Caylee, and it also shows that there are still people in the world who are waiting for all the facts to come in, before losing that hope. I will admit, if I ever go missing, I hope there are people like you still around who still have hope, until proven otherwise. Hope keeps people looking. raying:

Thank you for clarifying some of the doubts that I was having, and also for validating some of the things I was thinking!

As for the decmp, I have seen the video of GA saying "the dead body in my daughter's car was not my grandaughter" literally a milliion times, as I 'm sure we all have. And I agree, that always stayed with me.. He was sooo adament about it, his face was beat red, and that was the first time I ever really thought that maybe he did know something.

As for the death band/ring, thank you for giving me a better knowledge of how they work.. This is the first case that I ever heard of "death bands" so it makes me question a lot of it..

Thank you for kind words..I also say, if my child went missing, I would want people to believe she was alive until proven otherwise. I would want people to still search for her, look at children who pass by to see if it's her...Like I said last night, not many people will even CONSIDER the theory that she is alive.. But we on this thread do believe.. And we are basically all that she's got now ..

 

[Evan's Mom]

I really want to know how the "death rings" really work.. If fluids from a body or animal that has been decomposing touches a piece of hair, will that cause a ring? But even so, they can't say for a fact that it's Caylee's hair..

That has been one of my biggest questions.
Could other chemicals cause a deathband on hair?
Or if Caylee's hair was already in the trunk because it fell off of her clothes and there was another body in the trunk, could the decomp from that body cause a death ring on Caylee's hair?

 

[Chillout1989]

hope you do not mind the snip. Bye the way all of your post was right on. Thanks for taking the time. The one thing that leads me to believe that Caylee is alive is there is no evidence that she is dead. The LE has this as a missing child case. There is no evidence brought before the courts to say other wise. So until there is evidence in the court then they are still looking for a live Caylee. Until then people can have their own opinion and I respect them. This is the USA innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Good Morning! I too am a hopeful believer that little Caylee is alive somewhere. However, I think she is somewhere where mom hid her to get her away from any CA threats! I am probably very wrong; however, I feel that she (KC) could not go out partying, could not be so unemotional unless this is the case.

 

[Chillout1989]

That has been one of my biggest questions.
Could other chemicals cause a deathband on hair?
Or if Caylee's hair was already in the trunk because it fell off of her clothes and there was another body in the trunk, could the decomp from that body cause a death ring on Caylee's hair?

it is my understanding that when a piece of hair comes off our head, it starts decaying immediately; thus creating a death ring around it! (providing a piece of tissue is still attached)

 

[JBean]

Good Morning believers. I do want to remind you that while this is a thread to safely discuss the possibility that Caylee is alive, it is not a general discussion thread.
We don't have GD threads here so keep it on topic. This is not related to any recent posts it is just a reminder to make sure you can preserve your thread. Thanks

 

[Seranade]

Good Morning believers. I do want to remind you that while this is a thread to safely discuss the possibility that Caylee is alive, it is not a general discussion thread.
We don't have GD threads here so keep it on topic. This is not related to any recent posts it is just a reminder to make sure you can preserve your thread. Thanks

Just to clarify JBean, it is ok to discuss the various aspects of the evidence, right?(phone logs, forensics, witness statements, etc.) The reason many of us think she is alive is because we view the evidence in a different light than many others and I wanted to make sure we are still able to discuss our Alive theories in a logical, non-gossipy, fact based manner. This would necessarily require us to branch off in many different directions with our discussions and this might fall under your description of a general discussion. Help, please?