Thought and theories on Jeremy

[beach]

I think she said in that story to-that someone close to the family says-this is how JI acts all the time

That is another thing she said, yes. That was what sparked my memory of the guy I know.

I will try to dig up and link her posts. They are pretty relevant here, imo.

 

[Sparklin]

Impulse buy? She just happened to go straight to the liquor isle and impulsively buy a box of wine?

Impulse buying is when you see something you weren't looking for and buy it....like a snickers at the check out stand.

Yes, impulse as in she was in the store for other things and decided to buy it...same as a snickers bar. I often end up picking up a ton of impulse things at the store, sometimes forgetting the actual item I was there for.

and I meant impulse buy as in she didn't go to the store FOR wine originally so SB would not have known to ask her to pick up something different for HER to drink...kwim??

 

[Donjeta]

JMO if someone drinks two or three times per week buying alcohol is not an impulse buy, it's a habit.

 

[cityslick]

OK. You said JI may have hated her at one time but time heals all wounds so I took that to mean that he's gotten over that hatred, if any, mighty quick since it was just a little after Lisa disappeared that he said they were closer than ever.

That's not how I meant it. Everyone makes mistakes. It goes to what he thinks of her as a mother, past history, if he thinks it was done as true negligence (which means she doesn't give a damn about BL or the other kids), etc. He can accept the fact that she made a horrible decision that night but still support her while everyone else except family is coming down on her for her decisions that night and if she's responsible. It doesn't mean he doesn't love his daughter.

 

[iamnotagolem]

BBM. Only posts that say JI is involved in Lisa's disappearance are allowed on this thread? No opposing view?

That is not what I said.

 

[Minette]

JMO if someone drinks two or three times per week buying alcohol is not an impulse buy, it's a habit.

I guess it depends on how you define 'drinks.' If you have a glass of wine with dinner two or three times a week, nbd IMO. But if you drink a box o' wine several times a week, then yes, a habit and a problem.

 

[Sparklin]

JMO if someone drinks two or three times per week buying alcohol is not an impulse buy, it's a habit.

Really? Cause I could buy a bottle of alcohol (when I drank) and it would last me for a couple months..even if I drank a couple times a week.

More people than not drink a couple times a week. Actually a ton of people I know personally think that's what Friday/Saturday nights are for, especially the younger people.

Not to mention the people who have a glass of wine with dinner. That bottle can still last a while.

Wouldn't be a habit at all imo

 

[Donjeta]

That's not how I meant it. Everyone makes mistakes. It goes to what he thinks of her as a mother, past history, if he thinks it was done as true negligence (which means she doesn't give a damn about BL or the other kids), etc. He can accept the fact that she made a horrible decision that night but still support her while everyone else except family is coming down on her for her decisions that night and if she's responsible. It doesn't mean he doesn't love his daughter.

If she drinks as often as she said it may be that she made the same horrible decision on a regular basis and he never thought twice about it.

To love and to protect are sometimes two different things.

It's a different kind of love when you leave your baby with a drunk person and think it's OK.

 

[Donjeta]

Really? Cause I could buy a bottle of alcohol (when I drank) and it would last me for a couple months..even if I drank a couple times a week.

More people than not drink a couple times a week. Actually a ton of people I know personally think that's what Friday/Saturday nights are for, especially the younger people.

Not to mention the people who have a glass of wine with dinner. That bottle can still last a while.

Wouldn't be a habit at all imo

The box of wine was empty in the CS video. Doesn't look like it was meant to last for months.

I totally agree that a ton of people drink every Saturday and Friday and other nights in between and think that's what they're for. But if it's that often it's not an impulse, it's a habit.

 

[cityslick]

If she drinks as often as she said it may be that she made the same horrible decision on a regular basis and he never thought twice about it.

To love and to protect are sometimes two different things.

It's a different kind of love when you leave your baby with a drunk person and think it's OK.

That depends if she really did get drunk all the time? Nobody has come forward to say if she had a drinking problem or not. Did he expect her to get drunk that night? Doubt it. He also assumed he was going to be home earlier too so maybe he didn't think much of her having a few drinks.

 

[cityslick]

The box of wine was empty in the CS video. Doesn't look like it was meant to last for months.

I totally agree that a ton of people drink every Saturday and Friday and other nights in between and think that's what they're for. But if it's that often it's not an impulse, it's a habit.

How was the box of wine empty when they are still keeping the wine according to RR?

 

[liltexans]

I think she said in that story to-that someone close to the family says-this is how JI acts all the time

This may very well be true and maybe Jeremy's baseline personality is kind of low key and even keeled. But it kind of bugs me to hear this too. If he acts like this all the time, what does it take to really spur him into action? Is losing his baby the same as losing his keys or his wallet? I hope not.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Great thread idea, by the way.

I also go back and forth on questions about JI and if he knew anything, what he knew, when he knew. I do think that it is very possible that something could have happened to Lisa either Sunday night or Monday. There is no verification that anyone saw Lisa during this time. For all we know, Lisa could have passed away and disposed of the night before this incident (Sunday night). Or, there was all day Monday. No one knows what these people did Monday before JI went to his night job. Also, weren't the little boys in school during this time? I mean, if JI and DB were alone in the house with Lisa, who knows what could have happened?

I don't take too much stock in how JI acts because none of us know him and it sounds from some sources that this is just the way he acted before Lisa went missing. But, I do see a terrible amount of pain in his face. I don't see that in DB's face. Even when she is crying, I'm amazed at how quickly she recovers from it. And, is she crying because someone took Lisa away, or is she crying because she accidentally caused Lisa to die? JI, on the other hand, looks absolutely miserable.

And, it is odd that they both seem to be so connected at the hip. The majority of these type of cases tear a marriage apart, rather than bring them closer. So, is this because one is lying and the other totally believes them. Or, is it because an accident happened that they were both involved in and so they are bound by that connection, like John and Patsy Ramsey?

I don't know the answer for sure, but I sure hope that someone finds out sooner rather than later. Lisa deserves to be found!

 

[norest4thewicked]

How was the box of wine empty when they are still keeping the wine according to RR?

It would be ridiculous to think that they are still keeping the box of wine.

 

[Donjeta]

How was the box of wine empty when they are still keeping the wine according to RR?

I thought they were keeping the box... But who's to say it's even the same box. There is plenty of wine to go around.

:cow:


CS showed the box and said it was empty because it was emptied by the police to measure what was left.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I thought they were keeping the box... But who's to say it's even the same box. There is plenty of wine to go around.

:cow:


CS showed the box and said it was empty because it was emptied by the police to measure what was left.

I can't imagine what in the world they would be keeping it for. There refrigerator didn't look that big and those boxes take up quite a bit of space. Unless they are keeping it for a souvenir, I can't think of any reason that they would keep it.

 

[Donjeta]

That depends if she really did get drunk all the time? Nobody has come forward to say if she had a drinking problem or not. Did he expect her to get drunk that night? Doubt it. He also assumed he was going to be home earlier too so maybe he didn't think much of her having a few drinks.

If someone has been expecting their significant other to stay sober, act responsibly and take care of the children they'd be mad when they come home and find out the SO didn't. If you just shrug it away as no big deal it sounds more like you're used to it. But that's just MOO.

 

[Sparklin]

It would be ridiculous to think that they are still keeping the box of wine.

Cyndy Short said that LE took the 'balance' of the wine to determine how much was drank.

 

[Whisperer]

.....Something ain't right with that boy!

:drink:

 

[Whisperer]

Why didn't JI check on Lisa when he checked on the boys? Did he need DB to witness Lisa missing with him? That way she wouldn't be suspicious of him. We both went to her room and she was gone.

That was the third version. The first was Jeremy came in to the bdrm and asked DB where Lisa was...