Thought and theories on Jeremy

[cityslick]

I really get the feeling he came home after working all day and night, finds his drunk girlfriend passed out, signs of others being there, his home in disarray and he just reached his "Boiling Point".

Why would he harm his own daughter in a jealous rage? I haven't seen a great theory behind this reasoning. Why not harm DB?

You believe he harmed his daughter at 345am?

 

[Hipcheck]

Makes no sense to me either. But most of this case makes no sense, so it fits right in.

It makes a lot of sense if knows Baby Lisa is dead.

 

[hambirg]

Why would he harm his own daughter in a jealous rage? I haven't seen a great theory behind this reasoning. Why not harm DB?

You believe he harmed his daughter at 345am?

Infants (1–12 months) comprise the second category of child abduction. Maternal desire abductions become less frequent, as a two-month-old infant is more likely to draw the attention of outsiders to the actual age of the baby. Most of these abductions are emotion based. Males face a higher risk of victimization, and males, usually the biological father, are the perpetrators in these

http://family.jrank.org/pages/1175/Missing-Children-Nonfamily-Abductions.html#ixzz1nXibtOtt

Why do biological fathers murder their 1-12 month old infants based on emotion? Idk, but they do. My guess is retaliation. You hurt me, so I'm going to hurt you. Why do they use the child as a pawn? Idk. . .but it's not uncommon. Think of how many cases we have seen here when there are custody issues involved. That's for retaliation against the other parent.

MOO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Why would he harm his own daughter in a jealous rage? I haven't seen a great theory behind this reasoning. Why not harm DB?

You believe he harmed his daughter at 345am?

:seeya:

BBM: JMO but I do NOT think this is "probable" -- now, it is maybe "possible" -- BUT again, not probable because LE was called and got to the house at appx 4:00 am

So -- that would only be 15 minutes to dispose of body and evidence -- and dispose of 3 cell phones ... which would be "impossible" ...

:waitasec: Oh just thought of something else -- IF -- it happened this way : then it would totally rule out the "sightings" of a man walking around the neighborhood shortly after midnight with a baby ... and it would rule out Mike T's "sighting" of a man walking around with a baby at 4:00 a.m. ... and it would absolutely rule out the "white blob sighting" ...

I sure hope that made sense ...:waitasec:

JMO and MOO ...

 

[4Jacy]

Sad isn't it? It's also very odd and a tad bit creepy when you really think about it.

BBM

Respectfully hambirg, I find it more then a "tab bit creepy". What kind of father (and mother) is this who would not be searching for their baby daughter?

If they were searching you bet we would have seen pictures of it.

 

[hambirg]

:seeya:

BBM: JMO but I do NOT think this is "probable" -- now, it is maybe "possible" -- BUT again, not probable because LE was called and got to the house at appx 4:00 am

So -- that would only be 15 minutes to dispose of body and evidence -- and dispose of 3 cell phones ...

:waitasec: Oh just thought of something else : it would totally rule out the "sightings" of a man walking around the neighborhood shortly after midnight with a baby ... and it would rule out Mike T's "sighting" of a man walking around with a baby at 4:00 a.m. ... and it would absolutely rule out the "white blob sighting" ...

I sure hope that made sense ...:waitasec:

JMO and MOO ...

Just jumping off your post. We don't know when JI left work. The only mention of the 3:30am time comes from the "source," BS, who didn't even want to be named as the source.

I think that 12:15am sighting was JI.

MOO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

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BBM

Respectfully hambirg, I find it more then a "tab bit creepy". What kind of father (and mother) is this who would not be searching for their baby daughter?

If they were searching you bet we would have seen pictures of it.

BBM: Good point and I totally agree ...

IF JI and DB were "actively searching" for Lisa, their searching would absolutely have been in the news -- AND it definitely should be news ... BUT ...

The fact that JI and DB are NOT searching, etc. is "very telling" IMO ...

It's just tragic ...

MOO ...

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just jumping off your post. We don't know when JI left work. The only mention of the 3:30am time comes from the "source," BS, who didn't even want to be named as the source.

I think that 12:15am sighting was JI.

MOO

BBM: Hmmm ... I must have missed something here :innocent: -- or -- my memory is "fading" ... LOL !

So the only confirmation of WHEN Jeremy left work is Stanton ?

I was thinking that LE did confirm when Jeremy got home -- going by the 9-1-1 call :waitasec: LE has not confirmed anything ... and we know that LE has NOT confirmed IF -- IF Jeremy was at work all evening ... Oh dear ... I am going to have to go back and re-read the events in the timeline ...:innocent:

Now -- this 12:15 am "alleged sighting" : did the "female neighbor" state IF the "man walking around with a baby" was wearing glasses ?

Because Jeremy wears glasses ... I don't recall her stating that the "man walking around with the baby" was wearing glasses ...

MOO ...

 

[hambirg]

BBM: Hmmm ... I must have missed something here :innocent: -- or -- my memory is "fading" ... LOL !

So the only confirmation of WHEN Jeremy left work is Stanton ?

I was thinking that LE did confirm when Jeremy got home -- going by the 9-1-1 call :waitasec: LE has not confirmed anything ... and we know that LE has NOT confirmed IF -- IF Jeremy was at work all evening ... Oh dear ... I am going to have to go back and re-read the events in the timeline ...:innocent:

Now -- this 12:15 am "alleged sighting" : did the "female neighbor" state IF the "man walking around with a baby" was wearing glasses ?

Because Jeremy wears glasses ... I don't recall her stating that the "man walking around with the baby" was wearing glasses ...

MOO ...

Here's a pic of JI from a short distance. You can clearly see he's bald, but would you be able to see he's wearing glasses?

And here's another pic. I know people speculated that it was of Rick Irwin, but JI was estranged from his parents at the time, so I don't think so. Is it a younger JI without glasses?

 

[4Jacy]

BBM: Good point and I totally agree ...

IF JI and DB were "actively searching" for Lisa, their searching would absolutely have been in the news -- AND it definitely should be news ... BUT ...

The fact that JI and DB are NOT searching, etc. is "very telling" IMO ...

It's just tragic ...

MOO ...

BBM

Well, of course that disturbs most of us, the fact that they are not looking.

But what I cannot understand is why, if they are guilty, aren't they looking. DB/JI know what is being said on the news, on these threads, they know the public wants, expects the obivious of them...to look for BL, to put up posters, to beg the public for help. The fact they are not doing these things just makes them look more guilty.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Why would he harm his own daughter in a jealous rage? I haven't seen a great theory behind this reasoning. Why not harm DB?

You believe he harmed his daughter at 345am?

I am not sure what kind of rage it was. It would really help to know more about Jeremy and if he was on any type of meds that have the side effects of anger. I really wish he had not cut off that questioning by the police and I bet they wish he had not either. It would have been interesting to see what happens when he reaches that "boiling point".

BBM

Pure speculation on all of it but what greater harm could a passive aggressive person do to a mother?

I am not tied to the 3:45 am time.

 

[cityslick]

Just jumping off your post. We don't know when JI left work. The only mention of the 3:30am time comes from the "source," BS, who didn't even want to be named as the source.

I think that 12:15am sighting was JI.

MOO

If your only going to theorize based on what Le has said then your not going to have anything to go on. Is it a fact the source is BS? Is it a fact that DB was even out all night?

 

[hambirg]

If your only going to theorize based on what Le has said then your not going to have anything to go on. Is it a fact the source is BS? Is it a fact that DB was even out all night?

Jim Spellman told us in his thread here, that it was BS that floated that story. Jim would not publish it because BS did not want to be named as the source. I believe Jim.

I don't know what you mean about DB being out all night. I didn't say she was.

 

[cityslick]

Jim Spellman told us in his thread here, that it was BS that floated that story. Jim would not publish it because BS did not want to be named as the source. I believe Jim.

I don't know what you mean about DB being out all night. I didn't say she was.

JS also said he was aware that KCPD accounted for JI.

 

[hambirg]

JS also said he was aware that KCPD accounted for JI.

I have no doubt that LE verified that JI went to work that night.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I am not sure what kind of rage it was. It would really help to know more about Jeremy and if he was on any type of meds that have the side effects of anger. I really wish he had not cut off that questioning by the police and I bet they wish he had not either. It would have been interesting to see what happens when he reaches that "boiling point".

BBM

Pure speculation on all of it but what greater harm could a passive aggressive person do to a mother?
I am not tied to the 3:45 am time.

BBM: Isn't that what was said about JB as a possible POI and it was poo pooed b/c if he was upset with DB he would have killed DB? :waitasec:

 

[hambirg]

BBM: Isn't that what was said about JB as a possible POI and it was poo pooed b/c if he was upset with DB he would have killed DB? :waitasec:

Is there something that makes you believe JB is passive aggressive?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

BBM: Isn't that what was said about JB as a possible POI and it was poo pooed b/c if he was upset with DB he would have killed DB? :waitasec:

I don't know.

 

[Donjeta]

JMO but if someone hurts a baby I don't see it as a sign of being passive aggressive at all, just aggressive, and cruel, and maybe somewhat cowardly, if they choose to hurt the baby because it's more vulnerable, and an easier victim than the adult they're really angry with.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

JMO but if someone hurts a baby I don't see it as a sign of being passive aggressive at all, just aggressive.

Sure would be as far as the baby is concerned.