Thoughts regarding the PCSO Investigation of Haleigh

[Whisperer]

Mark Fuhrman was interviewed about this case early on. He is good, real good. I suggest Hardy get one of the detectives to call him...LOL.

At the very beginning he stated these people are not the type to give anything up. it is the kind of case due to their character that you can't let them have ANY informaiton. Keep the case tight and don't let anything out.You must squeeze these people from the inside. Well, PCSO must have listened to that part. Furhman hasn't commented since so they may be lost.

....then we have the players reading the board, gathering ideas and keeping up on every theory and rumor...grrr.

 

[Whisperer]

I wonder how long it would take to test the cinderblocks...that could be a very long process. Are they looking for a match from Green Lane?

 

[Whisperer]

fftopic:

When the three strike law came into effect out here, crime dropped dramatically. Three felonies, you are in for life...I agree.

However there were many that thought it was mean....LOL. I wish people could read rap sheets.

 

[krkrjx]

krkrjx you are correct in alot of your assumptions, but let me add this......LE in this case could have at any time asked for addtional help from the FBI or another agency. What has been the reason that they have insisted on not getting help? If its an ego thing, I am very angry.

I'm not saying John Merchant has done anything wrong, but I haven't liked how his name is bandied about by the Cummings. It just has a feeling of something fishy.

I wish, I wish someone with authority would call Mark Furman today and get him on this case!!!!!!

BBM

Wow! I can't tell you how many times I have thought to myself, "Wonder how Mark Fuhrman would handle this case?" And yes, the FBI could have been of greater assistance had they been asked. I suspect local LE had no idea where this case was going to go initially, and thought they could handle it on their own. Seems, though, it was not long into the case when the locals should have realized they needed help.

Not wanting to step on toes, but I have also thought at times about "good ol' boy" justice that happens sometimes in smaller rural LE, and I just hope it is not the situation in Putnam County. Because if it is, RC could very easily walk (again!) or do a shamefully small amount of time at best.

My biggest fear has been that there might never be justice for Haleigh; that no one is ever convicted of harming her.

 

[cj1132]

I think PCSO is doing the best they can given the experience they have. It's okay to admit that you don't have enough experience to handle a case like this. They have more experienced resources at their fingertips and it's up to them to use it if they need to. I have a job and if I don't know how to do something, I ask someone with more experience. It doesn't make me stupid or a bad person, it's just that I've never done it before. In my job, I'm talking about tax stuff, not a missing child. Obviously, there's no comparison. It doesn't mean I don't do my job well -- it's just that I'm out of my element and I realize I need someone more experienced.

 

[kamky]

After spending way way too much time listening to the putnam county scanner I believe they are incredibly hard working and professional. That being said I really dont have a clue as to their train of thoughts.
Their silence has been deafening at times and has cause confusion for my little brain. I am still not clear how FDLE ties into this case..but I know that jason Jolicoeur from FDLE is a main investigator on Haleighs case. The one thing that has puzzled me more than anything else was when investigator Jolicoeur made a video of Ron when he was first got arrested and took it to Misty. The first videos of misty in jail she was scared to death ..but once she saw that video she got all tough.
I heard an ex NY detective on Levis show say that that was a no no. So I still dont understand the logic.
I do still have faith in PSCO. I would like to see the FBI in charge and working with PSCO

IMO it's always easy for the armchair detectives and experts on the talk shows to give their opinions. They can have their moment of glory or promote their book and by the time the actual truth comes out, nobody remembers who said what. But it's up to those slogging through the mud to solve the case and figure out what is going to work in solving it. I don't think that Misty is an easy person to figure out at all and I think that LE has tried many different approaches to break her. She is a realy chameleon - at times being vulnerable and childish and at others being very world-wise and tough. She is the daughter of addicts and criminals and they have been her example. We have seen her manipulate people like Tim Miller, L Padilla, and Donna Brock. I imagine that the investigater thought it was worth a shot to see Misty's reaction to that video. If that approach didn't work, then it would help LE figure out a different approach to try. I wish them luck.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I am actually pretty impressed with LE in this case. They have stayed at it, conducted searches, pressed Misty and her family publicly, and put the whole bunch of these folks in jail for drug trafficking. It's hard to ask for more, really, other than definitive answers and the discovery of little Haleigh's body. And even there, LE seems determined to do what they can to find her. So many cases on WS involve children and adults whose cases go cold after only a few months.

As for LE obstructing justice: if that were true, RC wouldn't have been repeatedly arrested for his various relatively small traffic and drug matters. Or, for that matter, for this more serious one. There is no doubt some corruption in most LE agencies, human nature being what it is, the prevalence of drugs and drug money being a temptation. But I have always been baffled by the picture of RC as some criminal mastermind holding LE, the whole Croslin family, his own family and who know who else in thrall to his baggy-pantsed self. He's a guy whose life choices have cost his daughter's life (because I think Misty is at the heart of this case and Ron, the drug user, picked her for a girlfriend), custody of his son, and a chance to see his son play ball, go to school, learn to drive, etc. He will sit in a cell for nearly as long as he's been alive. Criminal masterminds are too smart to be videotaped selling drugs in a car.

For a look at a case in which LE has clearly obstructed a family's chance at justice, see the Kait Arquette murder.
http://kaitarquette.arquettes.com/

 

[kamky]

I am actually pretty impressed with LE in this case. They have stayed at it, conducted searches, pressed Misty and her family publicly, and put the whole bunch of these folks in jail for drug trafficking. It's hard to ask for more, really, other than definitive answers and the discovery of little Haleigh's body. And even there, LE seems determined to do what they can to find her. So many cases on WS involve children and adults whose cases go cold after only a few months.

As for LE obstructing justice: if that were true, RC wouldn't have been repeatedly arrested for his various relatively small traffic and drug matters. Or, for that matter, for this more serious one. There is no doubt some corruption in most LE agencies, human nature being what it is, the prevalence of drugs and drug money being a temptation. But I have always been baffled by the picture of RC as some criminal mastermind holding LE, the whole Croslin family, his own family and who know who else in thrall to his baggy-pantsed self. He's a guy whose life choices have cost his daughter's life (because I think Misty is at the heart of this case and Ron, the drug user, picked her for a girlfriend), custody of his son, and a chance to see his son play ball, go to school, learn to drive, etc. He will sit in a cell for nearly as long as he's been alive. Criminal masterminds are too smart to be videotaped selling drugs in a car.

For a look at a case in which LE has clearly obstructed a family's chance at justice, see the Kait Arquette murder.
http://kaitarquette.arquettes.com/

I agree with you. I think Ron loves his kids and did things which in his mind were to protect them from others. His failure was to realize that things he, himself, was doing that could hurt them - specifically his drug involvement. He may have thought he could keep that separate, but it's really impossible for a parent to do. Everything you do affects your kids.

I'm not sure yet that I blame him for his life choice of Misty. There are so many people who choose partners who hurt their kids and they didn't see it coming. Millions of normal people. This will be especially true if it turns out that Cousin Joe was responsible for hurting Haleigh. How can someone know that the person they choose to live with has a relative or friend or whatever who will end up hurting your child? To me, this will probably still come down to a drug-related lifestyle.

For this reason, I think PCSO was on the right track with their drug sting.

 

[LaLaw2000]

lol...Before a target is placed on my forehead, I only have questions about one, what appears to me to be a friendship between Ron and one of the Detectives. I'm NOT slamming the entire group of LE working on this case. They have their hands full on this case. I think under the circumstances they have done well. But if my assessment is correct, I can see how they may have been led down the wrong path.

BBM: I have had the same concern you do, teh. However; I do not think this particular one can individually influence anything now. FWIW, I do believe the case went down the wrong path in the beginning because of it.

Little Haleigh's case is rife with pathological liars and very little (if any) physical evidence. I honestly want this case solved regardless of how long it may take. One other poster said it best - there are no do-overs if the person(s) charged are tried and acquitted due to lack of convincing evidence.

JMO

 

[4Jacy]

krkrjx you are correct in alot of your assumptions, but let me add this......LE in this case could have at any time asked for addtional help from the FBI or another agency. What has been the reason that they have insisted on not getting help? If its an ego thing, I am very angry.

I'm not saying John Merchant has done anything wrong, but I haven't liked how his name is bandied about by the Cummings. It just has a feeling of something fishy.

I wish, I wish someone with authority would call Mark Furman today and get him on this case!!!!!!

What an excellent post, and I so agree with you. Somethings wrong in Denmark and I hope others realize it as well. Yes, call in Mark Furman, the FBI, the mafia; whoever it takes to make sure someone pays for this innocent, darling little child's life.