Thread No. 20

[jake]

Howdy, Jake. The emboldened font wasn't necessary to get my attention. I'm not blind. I do appreciate your reply to my invitation to share your theory though.

How do you know that these theoretical killers expected Jason back on Friday afternoon? If you assume Meredith is one of the killers, how can you be certain that Jason's voicemail didn't include mention of his side-trip to Brevard?

One more thing. Cougermom's endorsement doesn't really boost a theory's credibility in my eyes.

ETA: I see I didn't follow your theory very well. Michelle was already dead by the time Jason left the voicemail, so the killers couldn't have known about the side-trip prior to the murder if Meredith was one of the killers. That is, unless someone told her Thursday night about Jason's spontaneous decision to go to Brevard. Michelle and the GA friend both knew. Could either of them have told her? I wonder if Jason called any other friends that night during his drive to Hillsville.

Just saw your ETA. I have been told Meredith did not call Michelle Thursday night, at least not while GA friend was there. No info about who Jason called.

 

[jake]

Saint,

I think it best to consider the source of the information about the defense lawyer. That particular poster has a penchant for twisting things to look beneficial to Jy. I suspect this supposed information is what it always is - misinformation.

No misinformation. No twisting anything. Jason has no defense attorney. That simply corrects misinformation.

 

[Scout]

Not an endorsement, Scout. It's giving credit.

Sorry for insulting you with the bold. I typed it on Wordperfect and then pasted. That's how it came out.

I think his voicemail on Friday did mention the side trip. And then other plans had to be made.

I think the plan for the side trip wasn't made until sometime Thursday. His mother knew of it then. But I should have said the killers probably didn't know of the side trip.

I've heard Jason is a chatty guy. Perhaps he spends most of his driving time talking on the phone. Might be why he was frequently checking voicemail on Friday -- he let incoming calls go to voicemail rather than put his ongoing conversations on hold. I believe you said on another forum that he called his mother just after 9 p.m., and he called Michelle moments later. However, she told him to call back later. Are you aware of any other calls he made or received that night?

So, as I understand it, you're basing your theory on the possiblity that Meredith didn't get word of Jason's side-trip to Brevard until sometime Friday -- whenever she listened to his voicemail.

I'm still not clear on why you have such strong suspicions of Meredith in the first place.

 

[The Saint]

No misinformation. No twisting anything. Jason has no defense attorney. That simply corrects misinformation.

the retainer ran out?

 

[raisincharlie]

the retainer ran out?

Bet you if LE showed up at Jys new place wanting to talk - he would still say - talk to my lawyer.

 

[The Saint]

Bet you if LE showed up at Jys new place wanting to talk - he would still say - talk to my lawyer.

mama or Google?

 

[citygirl]

Just saw your ETA. I have been told Meredith did not call Michelle Thursday night, at least not while GA friend was there. No info about who Jason called.

After all these months I'm still dumbfounded by the above statement.

You've learned through the GA friend that the sister did not call while she was there.

NO INFO ABOUT WHO YOUR BUDDY CALLED.

You're a friend working diligently to prove his innocence and yet he can't even tell you who he spoke with ?

Don't you find that odd ?????

 

[jake]

I've heard Jason is a chatty guy. Perhaps he spends most of his driving time talking on the phone. Might be why he was frequently checking voicemail on Friday -- he let incoming calls go to voicemail rather than put his ongoing conversations on hold. I believe you said on another forum that he called his mother just after 9 p.m., and he called Michelle moments later. However, she told him to call back later. Are you aware of any other calls he made or received that night?

So, as I understand it, you're basing your theory on the possiblity that Meredith didn't get word of Jason's side-trip to Brevard until sometime Friday -- whenever she listened to his voicemail.

I'm still not clear on why you have such strong suspicions of Meredith in the first place.

The sheriff said 'not random,' Scout. If not Jason.... who? Why not Meredith?

Don't know of anybody else he talked to that night.

 

[jake]

After all these months I'm still dumbfounded by the above statement.

You've learned through the GA friend that the sister did not call while she was there.

NO INFO ABOUT WHO YOUR BUDDY CALLED.

You're a friend working diligently to prove his innocence and yet he can't even tell you who he spoke with ?

Don't you find that odd ?????

That's more misinformation, Citygirl. I'm not working to prove Jason's innocence. He is innocent.

I don't ask Jason about the case. He follows his personal attorney's advice.

 

[citygirl]

That's more misinformation, Citygirl. I'm not working to prove Jason's innocence. He is innocent.

I don't ask Jason about the case. He follows his personal attorney's advice.

Forgive me, Jake. I am not in the business of posting misinformation. You tend to *play* with words. So let's rephrase it. You are working diligently to uphold his honor . You want to convince people of his upstanding character.You are working it, working it, working it ! Must be frustrating that he won't lend a hand with a few , benign details. And you expect posters to believe this ?

Then you indict the victim's sister when there has never been one iota of information leading in that direction ? And you expect posters to believe this , too ?

All JMO

 

[raisincharlie]

That's more misinformation, Citygirl. I'm not working to prove Jason's innocence. He is innocent.

I don't ask Jason about the case. He follows his personal attorney's advice.

So now he has a lawyer again ? Changes like the wind over that lawyer issue.

 

[jake]

Forgive me, Jake. I am not in the business of posting misinformation. You tend to *play* with words. So let's rephrase it. You are working diligently to uphold his honor . You want to convince people of his upstanding character.You are working it, working it, working it ! Must be frustrating that he won't lend a hand with a few , benign details. And you expect posters to believe this ?

Then you indict the victim's sister when there has never been one iota of information leading in that direction ? And you expect posters to believe this , too ?

All JMO

Sorry, Citygirl. I didn't mean to imply that you were. It's just that some things are repeated many times and soon come to be accepted as fact. I don't like that.

I realize Jason could give benign details. But he prefers to follow his personal attorney's advice. Yes, posters have a hard time believing this.

The sister? I don't even like to mention her name. The cops haven't publicly mentioned her as a suspect. I prefer that posters draw their own conclusions. Other posters on other boards aren't so circumspect.

 

[jake]

So now he has a lawyer again ? Changes like the wind over that lawyer issue.

He has a personal attorney. So do I. I don't have a defense attorney. Neither does Jason.

 

[raisincharlie]

He has a personal attorney. So do I. I don't have a defense attorney. Neither does Jason.

For some reason, not credible.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

For some reason, not credible.

Personal attorneys can be used if one is a plaintiff or a defendent. So, a personal attorney can indeed be a defense attorney if conditions warrant. Why is this an issue, LOL?

 

[jake]

Personal attorneys can be used if one is a plaintiff or a defendent. So, a personal attorney can indeed be a defense attorney if conditions warrant. Why is this an issue, LOL?

Very good question, Deputydawg. Conditions don't warrant. Jason is not a defendant.

It is an important issue. It creates the impression Jason is a charged defendant. He is not.

I'm sure you and I would both object to being called defendants in this case. I object to anyone calling Jason a defendant.

 

[spring]

Personal attorneys can be used if one is a plaintiff or a defendent. So, a personal attorney can indeed be a defense attorney if conditions warrant. Why is this an issue, LOL?

because with so much time passing, jy has to be innocent, right? let's do and say all things now to make it look like jy is innocent.

maybe jy can jump on the bandwagon to get that fetal homicide law passed. that's probably what an innocent person would do when their son was taken from them. i'm guessing that's not gonna happen :chicken:

 

[raisincharlie]

Personal attorneys can be used if one is a plaintiff or a defendent. So, a personal attorney can indeed be a defense attorney if conditions warrant. Why is this an issue, LOL?

Don't have a clue - I think it is more of the usual.

Have you noticed that the Neilson family is doing lots of PR trying to get Rep Weland's Fetal Homicide Law enacted in NC ? Wonder if that law can be made to be retroactive ? Seems to me there should be a way to make it applicable to Michelle's case considering in theory it is most relevant. Glad someone's husband cares enough to take some action.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

because with so much time passing, jy has to be innocent, right? let's do and say all things now to make it look like jy is innocent.
maybe jy can jump on the bandwagon to get that fetal homicide law passed. that's probably what an innocent person would do when their son was taken from them. i'm guessing that's not gonna happen :chicken:

I think it should be clear to anyone that reads a newspaper or watches TV that putting too much emphasis on the time lag between date of incident and date of arrest isn't always a sure thing. :banghead:

The more I think about this issue whether Jason has a "personal" attorney, "defense" attorney, or no attorney at all - IMO, if I was a POI in the brutal beating of my spouse and child, it's only prudent and logical to have a criminal defense attorney. I think Jason is somewhat smart, in a general term. But to not have a criminal defense attorney? Not smart, IMO.

And, we know he did at the beginning. Why wouldn't he now? Heck, doesn't really matter since he's pretending to move on with a normal life. The minute he finds out he's still #1 POI and they want to talk to him further, all he or mama has to do is pick up the phone and what do you know? He'll have a criminal defense attorney to tell the detectives, "No, I don't want to talk to you."

JMO.

 

[jake]

Don't have a clue - I think it is more of the usual.

Have you noticed that the Neilson family is doing lots of PR trying to get Rep Weland's Fetal Homicide Law enacted in NC ? Wonder if that law can be made to be retroactive ? Seems to me there should be a way to make it applicable to Michelle's case considering in theory it is most relevant. Glad someone's husband cares enough to take some action.

I'm all in favor of Trudi Walend's bill. Those in favor of abortion might have a problem with it, though. A mama and her doctor can kill her own baby but no one else can? But other states have gotten around that. NC can also.

Retroactive? Not a chance. I'd be in favor. But there's no way to declare something the killers did 8 months ago suddenly to be a crime.