Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

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  • #181
Reread my post, second sentence to your response. No mention of DP. HTH.

Just reread your post that I was responding to. It clearly says "DM's defense". That would be DP and that's what I was referring to.

Who is the framer?! IMO there was no framer but obviously to some posters there was/were framer(s). Isn't this what DM's defence have been suggesting all along? No framer then that only leaves the accused wouldn't you think? Oh I guess there could just happen to be that mystery person LE haven't clued in to or caught yet, the one DM fears and choices to sit at least three years in jail for. MOO.

I also reread the posts leading up to yours and found you were the only one who had mentioned a framer, so who else would DM's defense be?
 
  • #182
Isn't this part of sleuthing? :thinking:
Any crime, anywhere? Seeking victims through Kijiji, incinerator, charred remains, farmland property, hangar, LB, WM, theft of vehicles, etc., etc., ect. Sounds like a pretty unique case to me. The list contains some knowns along with some unknowns, HTH. MOO.

Well, I always thought sleuthing was gathering facts and information and following those leads. Change the names and addresses and many of those items are possible evidence that can be found in any case.

JMO
 
  • #183
Or we may be in for a few more closed courtrooms and the arrival of some interesting 'evidence'. One never knows.

Well, the next ones are supposed to be closed as well, unless the Spec wins their appeal to allow them in.
 
  • #184
Just reread your post that I was responding to. It clearly says "DM's defense". That would be DP and that's what I was referring to.



I also reread the posts leading up to yours and found you were the only one who had mentioned a framer, so who else would DM's defense be?


Second sentence...
IMO there was no framer but obviously to some posters there was/were framer(s). HTH

Guess you missed all the discussion from other posters AKA DM's defence then. And in one felled swoop I said it in that second sentence also. BBM, UBM. Again HTH.
 
  • #185
I think it's just a gentle reminder that "I swear I didn't do it" is not a valid defense

Perhaps. I just don't think that suggesting they "might" have footprints or tire tracks or other pictures or mud or clothes, etc., etc., does much to convict either.
 
  • #186
Or we may be in for a few more closed courtrooms and the arrival of some interesting 'evidence'. One never knows.

What's that got to do with the "I swear I didn't do it" defence? Closed courtroom? Evidence is still going to be presented and witness will still testify and the jurors will still deliberate. MOO.
 
  • #187
Second sentence...
IMO there was no framer but obviously to some posters there was/were framer(s). HTH

Guess you missed all the discussion from other posters AKA DM's defence then. And in one felled swoop I said it in that second sentence also. BBM, UBM. Again HTH.

So sorry, Swedie. It was your third sentence I was responding to, not your second. I had no idea that you were perhaps referring to posts from long ago. I didn't see anyone else talking about a framer so I have no idea who the "some posters" are that you are talking about. I also didn't know that some posters are also known as "DM's defence". There aren't only two sides here. Some people are just interested in the whole picture from all sides and are patiently waiting to see what all comes out. It doesn't mean they are "DM's defence".
 
  • #188
Perhaps. I just don't think that suggesting they "might" have footprints or tire tracks or other pictures or mud or clothes, etc., etc., does much to convict either.

So how do you suggest these cases get solved? By evidence I hope. FYI that is why I titled it possible evidence.

Theoretically speaking, LE found DM's clothing and footwear in his house after the murder. His clothing and boots has mud, soot, TB's blood and DNA all over them. The footwear matches the prints found at the crime scene. Sure you could suggest someone stole DM's clothing and footwear that eve and returned them after the murder, but other evidence will define otherwise. Maybe DM's own blood mixed with TB's was found on his clothing because there was a struggle (suggested) inside TB's truck. Oh but one might try and explain that away, DM cut himself while working to chop a vehicle in the hangar earlier that day while wearing those clothes and footwear, someone stole from his laundry that eve. BUT LE have retrieved a surveillance video of DM wearing those clothes during the time TB went out for a test drive. In that video, DM is seen driving TB's truck. And lo and behold there is blood all over the wind shield. Oh maybe he had a nose bleed and sneezed. Yeah whatever.

No worries, LE have the evidence, they pieced it all together to prove guilt and each person's role in these three murders. HTH and MOO.
 
  • #189
So how do you suggest these cases get solved? By evidence I hope. FYI that is why I titled it possible evidence.

Of course. By gathering facts and information to obtain true evidence.
 
  • #190
Perhaps. I just don't think that suggesting they "might" have footprints or tire tracks or other pictures or mud or clothes, etc., etc., does much to convict either.

BBM-Well won't that be something if pictures is what get them convicted?! :ohwow: MOO.
 
  • #191
Of course. By gathering facts and information to obtain true evidence.

Oh wow! So many theories, speculations and assumptions throughout this whole forum...all these forums. :doh: Or am I missing something? MOO.
 
  • #192
On a side note, I couldn't help but smile at SB's reference to TB's "owning his own business" as an indicator of financial security. Ask almost anyone who has ever stepped out on their own to set up their own small business about the struggle and uncertainty involved.

The bank asked a friend of mine who he worked for. My friend, who just set up his own, single employee (himself) small business last year, replied that he was "self-unemployed." A good joke but a sad story.

In Canada 30 percent of new enterprises do not survive their first three years and fifty percent do not survive for five years.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...-small-business-failure-rate/article20941565/
 
  • #193
On a side note, I couldn't help but smile at SB's reference to TB's "owning his own business" as an indicator of financial security. Ask almost anyone who has ever stepped out on their own to set up their own small business about the struggle and uncertainty involved.

The bank asked a friend of mine who he worked for. My friend, who just set up his own, single employee (himself) small business last year, replied that he was "self-unemployed." A good joke but a sad story.

In Canada 30 percent of new enterprises do not survive their first three years and fifty percent do not survive for five years.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...-small-business-failure-rate/article20941565/

TB was clearly established and a great personal success, having been in business for himself for...a decade? Reaping solid profits that he was able to invest in real estate and equipment?
 
  • #194
TB was clearly established and a great personal success, having been in business for himself for...a decade? Reaping solid profits that he was able to invest in real estate and equipment?

Do you happen to know the name of his business? I've searched without success. Tnx. (Also, I thought I read he just established his own business after his marriage. I could be wrong on that.)
 
  • #195
Do you happen to know the name of his business? I've searched without success. Tnx. (Also, I thought I read he just established his own business after his marriage. I could be wrong on that.)

Typically people are contractors in the construction industry, no? So it is all about you and your GST (business) number, and as soon as you have a GST registration, you ARE a company. In this case e.g., TB would just operate as "TB".

It would be hard to believe a contractor would not have a GST number of his own until so late in his career. Perhaps TB ponied up the $1k it takes to become incorporated to protect his dream home, now that he had one?
 
  • #196
Typically people are contractors in the construction industry, no? So it is all about you and your GST (business) number, and as soon as you have a GST registration, you ARE a company. In this case e.g., TB would just operate as "TB".

It would be hard to believe a contractor would not have a GST number of his own until so late in his career. Perhaps TB ponied up the $1k it takes to become incorporated to protect his dream home, now that he had one?

Sure. Could be. I was just wondering how customers found his business. Was there a yellow pages listing by any chance?
 
  • #197
Sure. Could be. I was just wondering how customers found his business. Was there a yellow pages listing by any chance?

Word of mouth? He was part of an extended community
 
  • #198
On a side note, I couldn't help but smile at SB's reference to TB's "owning his own business" as an indicator of financial security. Ask almost anyone who has ever stepped out on their own to set up their own small business about the struggle and uncertainty involved.

The bank asked a friend of mine who he worked for. My friend, who just set up his own, single employee (himself) small business last year, replied that he was "self-unemployed." A good joke but a sad story.

In Canada 30 percent of new enterprises do not survive their first three years and fifty percent do not survive for five years.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...-small-business-failure-rate/article20941565/

Who's to say TB didn't have struggles and uncertainty pre and post startup, but ... it appears he was in the 70% that do succeed .. unless of course you have specific information to the contrary that you can link to :)
 
  • #199
In Molly Hayes' eBook, The Vilest Form of Evil, there is a lot of background information about TB that wasn't published in MSM, such as the reason why he was selling his truck.

With a powerful Cummins diesel engine, [the Dodge Ram] was perfect for a rural guy like Tim, especially with him running his own heating, ventilation and air-conditioning business. But the young dad was thinking of building another house, and he planned to put the cash he made from the truck towards a new plot of land. He was going to buy his friend’s old truck, a Ford F150; he just needed to sell the Ram. He’d talked it over with his dad, Hank, two days before. He was looking into a mortgage, too. That was Tim, who always had things worked out. Even with plenty to do on their new country home, he was making plans for a new one.
 
  • #200
Why are we discussing Tim Bosma and his finances? Do people want this thread to get pulled?
 
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