Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

[matou]

Maybe DM was trying to get rid of invoices and receipts for such incriminating items like the incinerator on the day police came looking for him at the hangar? Jmo

 

[Kamille]

I believe that the purchase has already been traced, to a MillardAir employee, and I doubt that employee paid for the transaction out of his own pocket, it would have been charged to a MillardAir account.

Well that would be even worse IMO. Involving an innocent employee in the sinister purchase of an incinerator to dispose of a body to selfishly try to cover your tracks.

Good for the prosecution I suppose though. As if there was an employee given this task, they will be on the witness stand telling the court just what reason his boss gave for the necessity of this purchase. And the reason why he wanted to have this delivered to his farm.

Bad for the employee though. Having to live with the thought that your employer used you to cover his tracks for the purchase of an incinerator to dispose of a body. And having to relive the experience on the witness stand and face cross examination trying to twist your words when all you did was follow orders. Can be a traumatic experience being a witness in a murder trial.

For that reason alone I hope it was DM himself, using a bogus (or real employee) name, who made the purchase.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

And wayne millard knew about this purchase of course, and that the item was delivered to his son's farm property? I wonder if other things such as car kits were also charged to millardair?

Would be interesting to see just what DM was running through the books of MillardAir as company expenses. Maybe a tax audit is in order?

MOO

 

[matou]

Both suspects in the Loretta Saunders trial just plead guilty.

Because Smich is charged with 1st degree, I doubt he will plead guilty to his charges unless he in fact is completely involved in the death of Tim Bosma (or his forcible confinement leading to the 1st degree murder charge). If he was duped, why should he plead guilty to that charge? Not sure how this will play out. If Smich testifies against Millard and his story makes sense and can be verified somehow, he can be found not guilty to that charge. I wonder how different their stories are about what happened that night?

 

[Alethea Dice]

In regards to the incinerator, I doubt the courts will care who called in the order, who signed for it's delivery or why it was purchased. It's not illegal to buy an incinerator no matter who thinks there would be no use for it. If there is evidence of TB's body in it and it was on the farm, that's all they will care about. The only way I can see that it would make a difference why he bought it would be if there was evidence that it was used for LB and it was there only way to prove first degree. Even then, if it was purchased after LB died, it wouldn't prove her murder was planned and deliberate, only that perhaps it was purchased specifically to destroy the body. They may think it was used for her as well, but I have to wonder why they would have gone back and dug up the farm if there was actual evidence showing that it was used for her.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Where there any employees working at the new hangar in July 2012? Or was it just DM's romper room at that time?

The MillardAir employees were there until December 4, 2012.

Chris Wood announced it by email on Dec. 4, 2012: "Wayne Millard passed away on Thursday last week, and his son Dellan (sic) has decided to shut down the business. All employees were laid off as of today.

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4485947-big-hangar-bold-plan-total-disaster-inside-the-secret-millard-negotiations/

Trying another link as the first no longer seems to work.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mrD1_f2mJ3MJ:www.northumberlandnews.com/news-story/4485947-big-hangar-bold-plan-total-disaster-inside-the-secret-millard-negotiations/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

 

[Kamille]

In regards to the incinerator, I doubt the courts will care who called in the order, who signed for it's delivery or why it was purchased. It's not illegal to buy an incinerator no matter who thinks there would be no use for it. If there is evidence of TB's body in it and it was on the farm, that's all they will care about. The only way I can see that it would make a difference why he bought it would be if there was evidence that it was used for LB and it was there only way to prove first degree. Even then, if it was purchased after LB died, it wouldn't prove her murder was planned and deliberate, only that perhaps it was purchased specifically to destroy the body. They may think it was used for her as well, but I have to wonder why they would have gone back and dug up the farm if there was actual evidence showing that it was used for her.

JMO

Pretty sure the prosecution, particularly for the LB case, is very interested in all of the details of the purchase and delivery of the incinerator and will be presenting them in court.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

The MillardAir employees were there until December 4, 2012.



http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4485947-big-hangar-bold-plan-total-disaster-inside-the-secret-millard-negotiations/

How many were employed in July 2012? What positions did they hold?

 

[Alethea Dice]

Pretty sure the prosecution, particularly for the LB case, is very interested in all of the details of the purchase and delivery of the incinerator and will be presenting them in court.

MOO

Really? Wow, I sure hope they have a lot more than that for their case. JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

How many were employed in July 2012? What positions did they hold?

That information wasn't included in the story. If you didn't save that information when it was available, sorry, I can't help you.

 

[SnooperDuper]

How many were employed in July 2012? What positions did they hold?

You would have to search LinkedIn yourself because those people are unsleuthable. MA had planned to hire 20 people and maybe a dozen have the company on their LinkedIn resumes, I'd guess, from stale memory...some maybe 3 have taken MA their CV since. Front office people like the guy who took over administering the website or crunchers of numbers, aviation mechanics, at least a couple sales and marketing guys (AS and RK who have been mentioned before).

 

[Kamille]

Really? Wow, I sure hope they have a lot more than that for their case. JMO

Did I indicate that was their prime or only evidence?

 

[matou]

I wonder if DM was following the news about Tim's and Laura's disappearances like Rafferty did with Victoria Stafford? There was a missing poster for Tim Bosma outside of his home.

https://twitter.com/cristina_CP24/status/335837667956760578/photo/1

 

[Kamille]

That information wasn't included in the story. If you didn't save that information when it was available, sorry, I can't help you.

So you can't answer the original question then. The link you provided does not tell us if anyone was employed at MillardAir in July 2012.

 

[Alethea Dice]

So you can't answer the original question then. The link you provided does not tell us if anyone was employed at MillardAir in July 2012.

Pardon? If they weren't laid off until December 2012, then they were still there in July 2012. According to AB, 3 maintenance people were already hired in August 2011. Some of the executives resumes said they were there for a year. I answered your original question. You asked how many and what their positions were. I told you I couldn't help you. The reasons I can't help you is because one - as SnooperDuper said, those people are not to be sleuthed, and two - because if something can't be linked here, it can't be posted.

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/09/new-information-from-wayne-millard-about-the-millardair-kitchener-operations.html

 

[swedie]

I wonder if DM was following the news about Tim's and Laura's disappearances like Rafferty did with Victoria Stafford? There was a missing poster for Tim Bosma outside of his home.

https://twitter.com/cristina_CP24/status/335837667956760578/photo/1

Most likely and chuckling, thinking he was too intelligent to ever get caught. He got away with two previous murders right?!
I think the Ambition tattoo may be fitting....NOT! He wasn't ambitious enough to hurry and cover all his tracks in TB's murder, before LE caught up with him. JMO.

 

[Kamille]

Pardon? If they weren't laid off until December 2012, then they were still there in July 2012. According to AB, 3 maintenance people were already hired in August 2011. Some of the executives resumes said they were there for a year. I answered your original question. You asked how many and what their positions were. I told you I couldn't help you. The reasons I can't help you is because one - as SnooperDuper said, those people are not to be sleuthed, and two - because if something can't be linked here, it can't be posted.

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/09/new-information-from-wayne-millard-about-the-millardair-kitchener-operations.html

The original question was "were there any employees working at the hanger in July 2012?"

You answered with a link stating employees were laid off in December 2012.

I asked how many of those laid off employees were employed in July 2012 and what were their positions.

You answered that the information was not in the link you provided to answer my question and that you can't help me.

I stated that you can't answer the original question by another poster then even though you answered her question by providing a link that does not answer her question.

Just because employees were laid off in December does not mean they were employed in July. But thanks for the extra information. That does answer the original question which was were there any employees at the hanger in July 2012. So it appears you could help after all.

 

[swedie]

So you can't answer the original question then. The link you provided does not tell us if anyone was employed at MillardAir in July 2012.

Kamille one has to wonder. Although MA had hired employees, were they given a start date but had not officially started working in the hangar? If they gave their previous employers notice of their plans to go to MA, their employers could have kept them on until business actually started coming in for MA. Doesn't sound like it ever got started. The bare bones hanging out at the hangar could have been friends or people DM knew and had hired.

WM being a frugal man would not want to have to pay 20+ employees big bucks for sitting around with no business coming in kwim. MOO.

In July 2011, the firm secured a building permit for a $6.4 million hangar on two hectares owned by the public. Construction launched on the red-roofed building. The hangar secured an occupancy permit in February 2012. However, the bold plan to service jetliners never took off.

Wayne Millard died on Nov. 29, 2012. Chris Wood announced it by email on Dec. 4, 2012: "Wayne Millard passed away on Thursday last week, and his son Dellan (sic) has decided to shut down the business. All employees were laid off as of today. Jeff (Schelling, regional government lawyer) will be discussing the next steps with the bank and Millard's legal council. There is never a dull moment around here, that's for sure."

http://www.therecord.com/news-story...aster-inside-the-secret-millard-negotiations/

 

[SnooperDuper]

Kamille one has to wonder. Although MA had hired employees, were they given a start date but had not officially started working in the hangar? If they gave their previous employers notice of their plans to go to MA, their employers could have kept them on until business actually started coming in for MA. Doesn't sound like it ever got started. The bare bones hanging out at the hangar could have been friends or people DM knew and had hired.

WM being a frugal man would not want to have to pay 20+ employees big bucks for sitting around with no business coming in kwim. MOO.

In July 2011, the firm secured a building permit for a $6.4 million hangar on two hectares owned by the public. Construction launched on the red-roofed building. The hangar secured an occupancy permit in February 2012. However, the bold plan to service jetliners never took off.

Wayne Millard died on Nov. 29, 2012. Chris Wood announced it by email on Dec. 4, 2012: "Wayne Millard passed away on Thursday last week, and his son Dellan (sic) has decided to shut down the business. All employees were laid off as of today. Jeff (Schelling, regional government lawyer) will be discussing the next steps with the bank and Millard's legal council. There is never a dull moment around here, that's for sure."

http://www.therecord.com/news-story...aster-inside-the-secret-millard-negotiations/

Well they weren't doing nothing, they were setting things up and preparing the documentation required by the government to get certified. I would not be surprised if they were 1/2, 3/4 staffed from the time the hangar was fit for occupancy. I don't think people were waiting to leave jobs; the industry is very cyclical and I think they were just waiting for things to pick up so that there were jobs again. IMO.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Maybe the problem is reporters trying to get pictures, or even draw her into conversation. If that is the reason, it will get much worse once the court case actually starts, which is a shame.

I really can't see reporters still harassing her for pictures or interviews. And once the trial starts, their questions will probably be asked outside the courthouse. But, regardless of who is still disturbing her privacy, I find it disrespectful and she should be left in peace.