Tim Miller funded Misty's trip to Orlando & also reveals shocking info about Ron.

[curvecuti]

I think he was asked about HaLeigh's medical conditions so Ron explained them all for Maury and the audience that might not know what Turners Syndrome is and its possible medical requirements..

texasmommy39, you make great points in all these posts. But I honestly think, it doesn't matter what Ron and Family do, it's never going to be right or enough. If they try to help search, the are trying to kill a bounty hunter, if they don't search, they don't care about Haleigh. (Even though CS and MG have the foundation that is supposed to fund searches, I've not heard another word about it since the moved it.) If they cry it's fake, if they don't cry they're smirking. If they don't appear at missing children's events or shows about missing children, they all killed Haleigh, if they do appear they are only there because they are being paid. RC stays w/ Misty so he killed Haleigh, RC divorces Misty, it's because he killed Haleigh. It's a never ending no win situation. Judgement of the most minutiae events of RC & family helps Haleigh in no way. It's a hard way to live when absolutely NOTHING you can ever do is right. They keep on keeping on and I admire that. I would have lashed out long ago if it were me. So they must have incredible self-restraint. They are focused only on sweet Haleigh and finding their baby.

 

[azwriter]

Yeah, I dont get this Tim Miller hatred everyone lost respect for him thing, even though there are lots of people who still respect him, and will support TES- I refuse to be blind and refuse to process the FACT that Teresa Neves called on Tim Miller to come in and help-

I mean can anyone answer to me why its ok for Ronald to use deception to try to get the truth out of Misty,by marrrying her, keeping his enemies close but Tim Miller does something based in deception after witnessing Ronald put an assult riffle in his mouth, and he had genuine concerns for Mistys life and all his work toward helping people is thrown out and he is bad, but Ron is not?

Malesherbes, you ask some interesting questions. I think I have some answers.
Neither Ron or Tim is right in using deception. Especially Tim. If he witnessed Ron in the gun incident and heard threats toward Misty, or was concerned that Jr saw what happened, he should have taken that information to the cops immediately. I think Tim overstepped his goals of finding missing children when he played detective or LE.
In no way do I hate Miller. I just think he loses focus when he takes it upon himself by not involving LE. Especially when I've heard from posters here that Tim Miller works closely with LE. I question why he didn't with this incident.
Love your pumpkin!

 

[elle1919]

Yeah, I dont get this Tim Miller hatred everyone lost respect for him thing, even though there are lots of people who still respect him, and will support TES- I refuse to be blind and refuse to process the FACT that Teresa Neves called on Tim Miller to come in and help-

I mean can anyone answer to me why its ok for Ronald to use deception to try to get the truth out of Misty,by marrrying her, keeping his enemies close but Tim Miller does something based in deception after witnessing Ronald put an assult riffle in his mouth, and he had genuine concerns for Mistys life and all his work toward helping people is thrown out and he is bad, but Ron is not?

To be honest with you, I am not convinced that was the only reason that Ronald married Misty. I can see him marrying her because she was the last person that was with his child. However, I've seen public displays of affection and I just don't think all of that was a show. Course I might be a spoiled, walking through life with blinders on, kind of girl. lol. I have to think he had feelings for her, I don't know. We are all guessing and hypothesizing I suppose.

I want to add that I have much respect for Tim Miller and the job he does for families with loved ones missing. I can tell you this if God forbid someone I loved went missing, I would call Texas Equusearch and any other group to beg them to help me look for my child. I am of the opinion that Tim Miller wants to refrain from developing personal relationships with the families that he helps and I think he developed feelings for TN and RC and many others. When I first heard of the things reported to have been going on with Donna B and "plan Misty" I was upset and confused. Now that it has all had a chance to sink in I have decided that it sure isn't my job to tell a man such as Tim Miller how to go about finding the missing. Bottom line, I don't know diddley about what TM knows and I can only pray and hope that it is for the greater good and will get Haleigh home.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Debs we know why he was there. Maury asked the questions and Ronald and his mother answered those questions and then Ron was given an oppertunity to say something and he CHOSE to tell HaLeigh he loved her. I find nothing wrong under the circumstances that he did not say HaLeighs name because the whole topic and interview was about HaLeigh.

actually, from what I saw (unless there was more than the 4 minutes 45 seconds that was on YouTube) the focus was on how TN and Ron were holding up, with Ron telling HaLeigh that he loved her at the end when Maury asked him if there was anything he would like to say. I will have to go back and watch again because I don't remember any relevant questions being asked of either one of them regarding HaLeigh other than about her Turners Syndrome.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Contradictory and Ridiculous, concerning the things being said about Maury's "Missing Abducted Childrens Special" with Ron and TN.

Good Job Ron, TN, Maury and those involved in the production desiring to bring focus nationally on serious often demonic crimes and Injustices perpetrated upon innocent helpless children. May warriors doing something "Good" towards that goal in bringing attention and education to the cause be rewarded, may actual kids be saved and recovered.

 

[Pondering Mind]

To be honest with you, I am not convinced that was the only reason that Ronald married Misty. I can see him marrying her because she was the last person that was with his child. However, I've seen public displays of affection and I just don't think all of that was a show. Course I might be a spoiled, walking through life with blinders on, kind of girl. lol. I have to think he had feelings for her, I don't know. We are all guessing and hypothesizing I suppose.

I want to add that I have much respect for Tim Miller and the job he does for families with loved ones missing. I can tell you this if God forbid someone I loved went missing, I would call Texas Equusearch and any other group to beg them to help me look for my child. I am of the opinion that Tim Miller wants to refrain from developing personal relationships with the families that he helps and I think he developed feelings for TN and RC and many others. When I first heard of the things reported to have been going on with Donna B and "plan Misty" I was upset and confused. Now that it has all had a chance to sink in I have decided that it sure isn't my job to tell a man such as Tim Miller how to go about finding the missing. Bottom line, I don't know diddley about what TM knows and I can only pray and hope that it is for the greater good and will get Haleigh home.

bbm~
:clap::clap::clap: Wonderful well thought out post! I too think that TM had developed feelings for this family. While it's hard to imagine how one could not develop such feelings for the families that he (and others) help, I have to imagine that in doing so it would take such a major tole on his own emotions and health. I can't even imagine how hard it is to move on, but the fact is for every case we discuss here, there are MANY more that we never even hear about that desperatly need his help and of course are as every bit as deserving as our HaLeigh. I don't doubt for a minute that he NEVER forgets any of them. I don't know how he does it myself, I truly don't. All those who search for our missing have my undying gratitude and admiration.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Contradictory and Ridiculous, concerning the things being said about Maury's "Missing Abducted Childrens Special" with Ron and TN.

Good Job Ron, TN, Maury and those involved in the production and desire to bring focus nationally on serious often demonic crimes and Injustices perpetrated upon innocent helpless children. May warriors doing something "Good" towards that goal in bringing attention and education to the cause be rewarded, may actual kids be saved and recovered.

Hi Kool! What is contradictory and ridiculous? Not sure what you mean. Thanks!

 

[Emeralgem]

I suspect TM knows that Ron C is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance and that he most probably disposed of her in a place so she would never be found... I also believe he knows that Misty TN and the Cummings Clan are ALL covering for him... Personally, I believe he is fed up wtih all the BS out of all of them...JMO

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I've not seen or heard anything out of Tim Miller indicating his beliefs in Ron's guilt concerning Haleigh's disappearance in the least. However, I do see and hear Tim's anger and resentment in not getting his way and not "making" things happen that he tried hard to do.

Ron doesn't appear to me to be the kind you can push around. Good for him.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Hi Kool! What is contradictory and ridiculous? Not sure what you mean. Thanks!

Just read the posts in content and conversation as they flow, objectively. A better idea, read the last several pages of this thread to someone/adult at home not involved in keeping up with the case as we are, and get their take. LOL

 

[Novice Seeker]

texasmommy39, you make great points in all these posts. But I honestly think, it doesn't matter what Ron and Family do, it's never going to be right or enough. If they try to help search, the are trying to kill a bounty hunter, if they don't search, they don't care about Haleigh. (Even though CS and MG have the foundation that is supposed to fund searches, I've not heard another word about it since the moved it.) If they cry it's fake, if they don't cry they're smirking. If they don't appear at missing children's events or shows about missing children, they all killed Haleigh, if they do appear they are only there because they are being paid. RC stays w/ Misty so he killed Haleigh, RC divorces Misty, it's because he killed Haleigh. It's a never ending no win situation. Judgement of the most minutiae events of RC & family helps Haleigh in no way. It's a hard way to live when absolutely NOTHING you can ever do is right. They keep on keeping on and I admire that. I would have lashed out long ago if it were me. So they must have incredible self-restraint. They are focused only on sweet Haleigh and finding their baby.

It never ceases to amaze me of the excuses and deflection used to explain Ronald, GGSyke, Misty or TN's behavior during this crime. This was a crime that could have been easily prevented if any of Haleigh's parental guardians had stepped in as late as the day of the crime if not sooner while Misty was missing and Ronald, IMO, knew very well what Misty was mixed up in.
Haleigh's family failed her because of this a crime was given the opportunity to be committed. From your comment above feel that regardless what her relatives did it will never be considered right.

If Ronald, GGSykes or TN had made responsible and appropriate decisions a the parent and grandparents regarding the safety of Haleigh and Jr.and their focus had been of the safety and well being of Ronald's children then Haleigh would be here in school, laughing and enjoying school and the wonderful friendships made. Those who were responsible for these precious children made poor decisions which played a major role in this crime.

Novice Seeker

 

[curvecuti]

It never ceases to amaze me of the excuses and deflection used to explain Ronald, GGSyke, Misty or TN's behavior during this crime. This was a crime that could have been easily prevented if any of Haleigh's parental guardians had stepped in as late as the day of the crime if not sooner while Misty was missing and Ronald, IMO, knew very well what Misty was mixed up in.
Haleigh's family failed her because of this a crime was given the opportunity to be committed. From your comment above feel that regardless what her relatives did it will never be considered right.

If Ronald, GGSykes or TN had made responsible and appropriate decisions a the parent and grandparents regarding the safety of Haleigh and Jr.and their focus had been of the safety and well being of Ronald's children then Haleigh would be here in school, laughing and enjoying school and the wonderful friendships made. Those who were responsible for these precious children made poor decisions which played a major role in this crime.

Novice Seeker

Every parent makes bad choices at some time in their child's life. No one is perfect. RC is no more responsible for Haleigh's abduction as Mark L. was for his child's abduction, or Somer T.'s mother was for her abduction. People make bad decisions, Thank Goodness for most of us our child is not abducted and we are not put under a microscope with those poor choices.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

It never ceases to amaze me of the excuses and deflection used to explain Ronald, GGSyke, Misty or TN's behavior during this crime. This was a crime that could have been easily prevented if any of Haleigh's parental guardians had stepped in as late as the day of the crime if not sooner while Misty was missing and Ronald, IMO, knew very well what Misty was mixed up in.
Haleigh's family failed her because of this a crime was given the opportunity to be committed. From your comment above feel that regardless what her relatives did it will never be considered right.

If Ronald, GGSykes or TN had made responsible and appropriate decisions a the parent and grandparents regarding the safety of Haleigh and Jr.and their focus had been of the safety and well being of Ronald's children then Haleigh would be here in school, laughing and enjoying school and the wonderful friendships made. Those who were responsible for these precious children made poor decisions which played a major role in this crime. Novice Seeker

I disagree completly. No one, is to blame for Haleigh's abduction but the people who did it. This post, way of thinking is what not only re-victimizes those snared by such evil/injustices, but sends out the wrong harmful message that destroys and scars people forever.

To apply what you have said literally and without prejudice, you would have to add every missing child and their parents to this statement. Somehow, somewhere every parent made some kind of decision, choice, action that placed the child where they were when they were harmed.

If you will, explain to me, not using Haleigh or her parents case, the mental thought process you are using in order to derive such an opinion about people and circumstances such as this case. How do you get there? I'm wondering, if it's taught and learned from childhood, or self taught and examination, self reflection, what? I ask this sincerely and in hopes of not coming across as too personal. Guess I would have to know more about you, your life, maybe my question is too personal, I apologize up front if it is, and accept no reply. Peace :blushing:

 

[elle1919]

I suspect TM knows that Ron C is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance and that he most probably disposed of her in a place so she would never be found... I also believe he knows that Misty TN and the Cummings Clan are ALL covering for him... Personally, I believe he is fed up wtih all the BS out of all of them...JMO

Hi Emeralgem...I was just wondering what you thought about the comment that Mark Nejme made while Mike Brooks was filling in for NG not too long ago? In case you missed it it was this night here :http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/16/ng.01.html

snip~
MARK NEJAME, ATTORNEY FOR TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Quite the opposite. Tim just found his 102nd victim yesterday. This man`s life is dedicated to finding the lost and the deceased when nobody else would do it. He didn`t care. He was doing something unorthodox.

Without question, he was looking to find this child. As far as the publicity seeking, nobody knew he was doing it. Where is the publicity? He did it for one reason and one reason only. Because he wanted to help find this child. So anybody that claims otherwise, they really don`t know what they`re talking about.

BROOKS: Now has Tim talked to you about Ronald and possibly, you know, him having the gun?

NEJAME: Sure. In fact, we were with Ronald and we spent time. And the one thing I can tell you, I genuinely believe that Ronald absolutely does not know what happened to his child and is dedicated to finding the child.

BROOKS: Yes, I do, too.

NEJAME: His manners and the way he acts, a lot of people may not accept it. But I believe he`s totally committed. And the issue as it relates to Misty, if I could refer to what was just being discussed.

BROOKS: Sure.

NEJAME: Ron believes, in my opinion from the time that I`d spent, that Misty might have known something about it. And if she ended up going elsewhere with other family and she was gone, he believes he would have lost that single opportunity or the best opportunity to best find out what happened to his child.

So all the psychological gibber jives that I`ve just heard, respectfully, it`s not that complicated. He knew that his best chance of finding his child was keeping her close by. Because he`s got questions like everybody else does about her continued discrepancies. ~ end snip

I know your opinion is that Tim Miller might suspect Ronald of wrong doing, and I just wondered what your take on Mark NeJame's comments were? TIA

 

[Pondering Mind]

I disagree completly. No one, is to blame for Haleigh's abduction but the people who did it. This post, way of thinking is what not only re-victimizes those snared by such evil/injustices, but sends out the wrong harmful message that destroys and scars people forever.

To apply what you have said literally and without prejudice, you would have to add every missing child and their parents to this statement. Somehow, somewhere every parent made some kind of decision, choice, action that placed the child where they were when they were harmed.

If you will, explain to me, not using Haleigh or her parents case, the mental thought process you are using in order to derive such an opinion about people and circumstances such as this case. How do you get there? I'm wondering, if it's taught and learned from childhood, or self taught and examination, self reflection, what? I ask this sincerely and in hopes of not coming across as too personal. Guess I would have to know more about you, your life, maybe my question is too personal, I apologize up front if it is, and accept no reply. Peace :blushing:

bbm~
Now that I agree with Kool, but of course you know that I believe Ron and Misty are responsible so therefore are to blame. The one caveat to that is...although I don't blame TN and GGM for HaLeighs disappearance, IF it is found that they had knowledge after the fact and helped cover it up, whether it be by cover up, ommitance or anything else that keeps justice from being brought for this baby girl and/or from being found, then yes I would say they definitely share much blame. That's jmho and my :twocents:.

 

[kamky]

Hi Emeralgem...I was just wondering what you thought about the comment that Mark Nejme made while Mike Brooks was filling in for NG not too long ago? In case you missed it it was this night here :http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/16/ng.01.html

snip~
MARK NEJAME, ATTORNEY FOR TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Quite the opposite. Tim just found his 102nd victim yesterday. This man`s life is dedicated to finding the lost and the deceased when nobody else would do it. He didn`t care. He was doing something unorthodox.

Without question, he was looking to find this child. As far as the publicity seeking, nobody knew he was doing it. Where is the publicity? He did it for one reason and one reason only. Because he wanted to help find this child. So anybody that claims otherwise, they really don`t know what they`re talking about.

BROOKS: Now has Tim talked to you about Ronald and possibly, you know, him having the gun?

NEJAME: Sure. In fact, we were with Ronald and we spent time. And the one thing I can tell you, I genuinely believe that Ronald absolutely does not know what happened to his child and is dedicated to finding the child.

BROOKS: Yes, I do, too.

NEJAME: His manners and the way he acts, a lot of people may not accept it. But I believe he`s totally committed. And the issue as it relates to Misty, if I could refer to what was just being discussed.

BROOKS: Sure.

NEJAME: Ron believes, in my opinion from the time that I`d spent, that Misty might have known something about it. And if she ended up going elsewhere with other family and she was gone, he believes he would have lost that single opportunity or the best opportunity to best find out what happened to his child.

So all the psychological gibber jives that I`ve just heard, respectfully, it`s not that complicated. He knew that his best chance of finding his child was keeping her close by. Because he`s got questions like everybody else does about her continued discrepancies. ~ end snip

I know your opinion is that Tim Miller might suspect Ronald of wrong doing, and I just wondered what your take on Mark NeJame's comments were? TIA

Wow, elle, thank you for these excerpts from this transcript! I missed this show, but I have very high regard for Mr Najame. The statements you bolded, as well as the next two statements sum up what I also believe to be true about Ron. I find Mr Najame's words encouraging and I would love to be be able to listen in on a conversation between him and Mr Miller on the subject. Very interesting!

We may yet find that Tim Miller has set into motion a series of actions which eventually lead to Haleigh. IMO, his public revelation about Misty contributed to the eventual divorce. Misty associated with the two young women, got into the drug-related robbery and may be headed to a reconcilliation with her family. When Misty was married to Ron, she was in a protected environment. But now she is making her own decisions, and the world and LE will see her true colors.

 

[PorcineGranny]

Novice Seeker, I think your remarks were brilliant. I agree totally.
while we use the excuse its no ones fault in many situations, this particular one stands out because the father chose a drug addicted 17 year old to be the caregiver. If he had been involved with a woman his age, who was interested in a relationship with Ron and helping the children, I would say its no ones fault. But here we have a situation fraught with mistakes, horrible ones. Now Haleigh is gone, Yep, its Ron's fault ultimately for what has happened. JMO

 

[curvecuti]

Novice Seeker, I think your remarks were brilliant. I agree totally.
while we use the excuse its no ones fault in many situations, this particular one stands out because the father chose a drug addicted 17 year old to be the caregiver. If he had been involved with a woman his age, who was interested in a relationship with Ron and helping the children, I would say its no ones fault. But here we have a situation fraught with mistakes, horrible ones. Now Haleigh is gone, Yep, its Ron's fault ultimately for what has happened. JMO

Women his age use drugs too.

I, like Kook Look, would be interested in the answer to her question...

not using Haleigh or her parents case, the mental thought process you are using in order to derive such an opinion about people and circumstances such as this case. How do you get there? I'm wondering, if it's taught and learned from childhood, or self taught and examination, self reflection, what?

 

[texasmommy39]

What do you think the focus of using Donna was? Wasn't it to get information from Misty to find Haleigh? Or do you just think Tim was nosey?

My opinion or theory about TM's motive is pure speculation at this point. I am of the opinion that TM and Donna had ample opportunity to ferret out a conspiracy involving Misty knowing what happen to Haleigh.One fatal slip is all it would of took and with the emotional roller coaster that was Misty and Ronald's existence since Haleigh was abducted; I do not see any evidence to suggest at this time LE has their smoking gun (TM and Donna's Bombshell information).

 

[Baxter]

My opinion or theory about TM's motive is pure speculation at this point. I am of the opinion that TM and Donna had ample opportunity to ferret out a conspiracy involving Misty knowing what happen to Haleigh.One fatal slip is all it would of took and with the emotional roller coaster that was Misty and Ronald's existence since Haleigh was abducted; I do not see any evidence to suggest at this time LE has their smoking gun (TM and Donna's Bombshell information).

I know the above is only your opinion, but why would Tim M conspire to do anything? The Cummings' family called him to help find Haleigh. He does not need the work or the publicity. Also, where did you get that Tim and Donna had "Bombshell" information to give to LE?