Tim Miller funded Misty's trip to Orlando & also reveals shocking info about Ron.

  • #21
So arrest her for obstruction! Now, it's she keeps telling the same story over and over, last I heard she was inconsistent, they can't have it both ways.

Seriously! If they had cause to arrest her, then why don't they?
 
  • #22
Art Harris published an article that had concerning information. Most concerning was two items in particular. The first being about the story Tim told about Ron and the gun in the bedroom, only this time we hear jr was in the room when this happened:

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

“Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/


The story seems to be getting embellished imo.
 
  • #23
Debs, you are so right, she needs to take advantage as LE can offer her protection from Ron.
Misty is running out of places to go; the article said her grandmother in TN offered to come get her, however she's not allowed to move out of FL with this case going on.
It's not looking good for Misty at all..

Bolded by me, where did you hear that?
 
  • #24
"Miller says she asked to speak with detectives several days ago, so Brock drove her in and sat with her, as investigators laid out what her future could look like if they make a case against her: she may be too young to get the death penalty, but life in prison is a possibility, she was told.
“We still don’t’ believe she’s giving us straight information,” a source close to the case tells me. “She keeps telling us the same thing over and over again, and we have information that shows it’s not true…At some point, she has to make a decision if she wants to stay the course, or is she going to tell us.
“We’ve told her, ‘We are going forward with the case, no matter what your commitment is, and the moment we can prove you had something to do with the disappearance of Haleigh, we will proceed with criminal charges against you.’”

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#more-3224

Investigators laid out what Misty's future would look like either Life in Prison (she's too young for the death penalty). That would be what she would get for being charged with murder= life in prison. She is too young for the DP..

What made Misty want to go down and talk to LE? Is she scared about what would happen if she told the truth? We know she's scared of prison.

If Misty tells the truth, will she be admitting to murder, or something else?

Hi Meow333.

I'm not posting a response to you, I'm quoting you because you were so kind as to pull that quote :)

Hunh, interesting. Especially this part of the quote:

...“We still don’t’ believe she’s giving us straight information,” a source close to the case tells me. “She keeps telling us the same thing over and over again, and we have information that shows it’s not true…

Okay my interpretation is that they know she's lying. So what's the hold up? Arrest her.

I know you can't be arrested for lying to the LE, but I was under the impression that when the lies told obfuscate or impede a criminal investigation then charges can be brought forth.

Then we have the continuation of the quote of the source:

...We are going forward with the case, no matter what your commitment is, and the moment we can prove you had something to do with the disappearance of Haleigh, we will proceed with criminal charges against you.’”...

Hunh, again interesting.

My interpretation of that part is that whatever she isn't telling the truth about she needs to come clean now because if she doesn't she's going down with the ship. Whoever else is on that ship I have no clue and won't wager a guess.

I really wish that this the mollifying and handling of kid gloves of MC would stop. I don't think that she's so tough that she would actually be willing to do time for something she didn't do or didn't have a hand in just to protect someone else. JMHO
 
  • #25
I'm just considering the source, Art Harris's blog. Just another parasite feeding off Haleigh's disappearance.
 
  • #26
Art is not a fav of mine either.........but these are Tim Miller quotes, that I pay attention to.
 
  • #27
bbm - there is no proof of either of those allegations

Her friends also claimed she did drugs with them, which is most likely the truth, imo.
She was into cocaine, opiate painkillers, pot.
Look at her background and if you put 2 and 2 together, a lot of young people like Misty have abused drugs as well.
 
  • #28
I don't believe Donna was a spy. I think Ronald wanted Misty to believe she was. I think Ronald wanted Misty to think he'd set it up to cause her the greatest panic, which would serve two purposes, both which benefit Ronald: Isolate Misty from her avenue of escape, and make her realize there's no place left for her to go.

She has one more place: LE. She should take full advantage.
exactly debs! putting on some pressure! (thinking of the billy joel song)
 
  • #29
So arrest her for obstruction! Now, it's she keeps telling the same story over and over, last I heard she was inconsistent, they can't have it both ways.
they don't want her for OJ.. they want her for what she is.. and I (imhoo) think they are CLOSE.:twocents:
 
  • #30
And another thing that bothers me, if Ron did do this in front of Jr. why did Tim not go to DCF, surely an eyewitness account of this is grounds for removal of the child! The whole thing is hinky to me. And if he did report this to LE and they did nothing about it, well that does not bode well for the investigation as far as I concerned. WHO leaves a 4yr old child w/ a man who puts a gun in his mouth in front of him???? I'm sorry but I can not believe if PCSO knew this they allowed Jr. to stay there.


BBM --

ITA -- Especially with the fact RC claimed he'd also be taking others down, too. How do we know one of those "others" isn't Jr? That's really horrid to think about, but not a long shot from what we've heard of RC.

I don't understand at all why RC would've txtd MC to let her know about TM's "spy". I would think he'd be happy there may be someone who might get some answers from her. That leads me to believe he panicked because MC may spill something incriminating against him . . . .
 
  • #31
bbm - there is no proof of either of those allegations


She's 17. She is a child. There is proof of that allegation. As far as the drugs go, I think the statements of eye witnesses of the drug use is proof enough.
 
  • #32
Tommy said Ron did that, again, there is no proof.

Let's remember, though, TC's neighbor saw RC's truck stop at the home that night . . .
 
  • #33
What i'm not clear on is why Ron would text Misty to tell her the truth about DB being a spy.. the only thing i can think of is that he's a control freak who wants nothing to get in the way of his killing Misty, if in fact, she did harm Haleigh

His action in warning her doesn't even make sense. What's he going to do? He's divorcing her and he's going to call her, text her, warn her, give her hope that maybe they'll get back together someday. What is going on with him? He's warning her that DB and TM have arranged this time with them to gain information and yet he's making threats in front of his own son and TM about using a gun on her? No wonder she's confused. He needs to leave her alone so she can try to figure out where her life is going. He's beginning to look like a walking contradiction. He needs to go sit down somewhere and let this investigation find it's way to his daughter. Period.
 
  • #34
I think Ron told her for a few reasons: he wants to put doubt in her head as to whom she can trust; he wants to be someone she will still turn to (because he was her "friend" and let her know what was going on), so he can still control her, and the situation.
 
  • #35
I'm still trying to figure out how the road rage incident outed Donna as a spy. Art's blog and TM outed her on that morning. It seems more likely that Ron was texting Misty to tell her what Art's blog had to say. Everyone knew that Donna worked with Tim because she brought the guy who did the lie detector test and was a searcher. Would make more sense to say that Ron told that Tim was paying for it all in order to try and get Misty to talk and for her own protection. Ron supposedly still believes Misty.
 
  • #36
Art and Tim did not post about her until after the road rage incident.
 
  • #37
His action in warning her doesn't even make sense. What's he going to do? He's divorcing her and he's going to call her, text her, warn her, give her hope that maybe they'll get back together someday. What is going on with him? He's warning her that DB and TM have arranged this time with them to gain information and yet he's making threats in front of his own son and TM about using a gun on her? No wonder she's confused. He needs to leave her alone so she can try to figure out where her life is going. He's beginning to look like a walking contradiction. He needs to go sit down somewhere and let this investigation find it's way to his daughter. Period.

You said exactly what I was thinking!

If RC is so desperate to find out what happened to his daughter, why didn't he keep his mouth shut and see if she confided anything to DB?

It's like he was telling her to keep her from spilling anything. You know that bit many play: they tell someone something acting as if they are doing it because they care,, but it's really to save their own skin.

I've always thought MC and RC were both involved. With all that has went on recently, I'm really beginning to think RC is responsible and MC is his pawn. She's either too in love or too afraid to speak up.
 
  • #38
they don't want her for OJ.. they want her for what she is.. and I (imhoo) think they are CLOSE.:twocents:
I agree, but I would think it would be much, much easier to break her if she were in jail. TM said she was terrified of that. If they arrest her for obstruction they can still charge her w/ whatever else they want.
 
  • #39
Art Harris published an article that had concerning information. Most concerning was two items in particular. The first being about the story Tim told about Ron and the gun in the bedroom, only this time we hear jr was in the room when this happened:

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

“Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/

TEH when I started reading MC's first post my stomach clenched, when I read yours, I broke out in a cold sweat and all the hairs on my head stood up.

Please tell me this is enough (legally) reason to send Jr to live with his mommy... until this case is resolved and Ron has enough therapy that he is no longer a threat to himself or others. No way do I believe he would leave Jr for his mommy to raise if he decides it's time.

He has the means and he has stated the intent to harm himself and others. I don't think that TM would have released this statement if he didn't believe the treat was real.
Is LE acting on it? Are the guns gone? Anyone who would do that in front of a child (any child) is a sadist and a fool.

So what happens to Jr when he is missing his sissy and he goes in and gets daddy's gun with no idea what Ron actually meant and there is an explosion in back of the house. Whether Jr shows a little friend what daddy does and either one or both children are harmed, or he is by himself and either turns it on himself or someone else, without the understanding of what will happen.
There is no way in hell you can call that an accident...

Although hearing daddy say he is going blow step mama's teeth out thru the back of of her head, is a threat that I believe a 4 year old would have a pretty clear picture of in his mind. It's the stuff nightmares are made from... Makes me wonder how often Misty heard the same threat while living in that house. The wedding is making a whole lot more sense too. It was obvious to everyone but Misty on the wedding day he wasn't a man who's heart was going pitter patter in love.


Don't suppose Tim accidentally left out the part about the locked gun case, safety locks on the guns and locks on the bedroom door that are out of JR's reach? As are the keys....
 
  • #40
Her friends also claimed she did drugs with them, which is most likely the truth, imo.
She was into cocaine, opiate painkillers, pot.
Look at her background and if you put 2 and 2 together, a lot of young people like Misty have abused drugs as well.

Yes, all rumor, no proof, and the 2 people are folks with drug charges, hardly reliable imo
 

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