Tim Miller funded Misty's trip to Orlando & also reveals shocking info about Ron.

  • #161
I saw Art's article that Tim paid for all of this out of donations, NOT his own pocket. I am really disappointed jmo
Agreed, and it totalled around $10000. That must have been one helluva trip!
 
  • #162
I saw Art has a breakdown of $2000 for the trip and $8000 for "the polygraph and other truth testing expenses"
 
  • #163
He admits he told DB to "play along", so I don't think I am "assuming" anything.


DB was already friends with MC before she even spoke to TM on the phone. The incident you're referring to is long after the tests were done.
 
  • #164
Hi Kat,

You sure can be arrested for lying to LE. Look at KC and how she was arrested for impeding an investigation and giving false statements. I just don't understand why MC is still roaming the streets :(
 
  • #165
We don't know what she has allegedly lied about iirc
 
  • #166
DB was already friends with MC before she even spoke to TM on the phone. The incident you're referring to is long after the tests were done.
Ok, we can agree to disagree on that.
 
  • #167
So you think Donna was actually Misty's friend? Then why did TM send her to befriend Misty? That makes no sense, if you are someone's friend no one has to tell you to be their friend. I think they have admitted that they wanted to pump MC for information, I don't consider myself trying to set someone up to find out what they may or may not know, I don't know what anyone else is doing here. Of course if I knew something about the whereabouts of Haleigh I would call LE, and I hope anyone here would do the same. As far as my statement about Tim, IMO. And I still feel that way. And honestly, I think it would be wise to remember, we all want to find Haleigh, but I also want any evidence that is found to admissable in court so the perp can be fully prosecuted.

Didn't Ron say he married Misty to "keep her close" so he could shoot her and them kill himself if she admitted doing anything?

It seems to me the messengers are being maligned for getting information that needed to be known.

I don't care what Ron has endured or what Misty may have done, I don't get why Ron wasn't Baker Acted immediately for making the threats? Maybe Ron was being overly dramatic, maybe he was trying to manipulate by the drama to prove to Tim he isn't in cahoots with Misty or maybe Ron really is that disturbed...it isn't for a layperson to determine.

imo
 
  • #168
Didn't Ron say he married Misty to "keep her close" so he could shoot her and them kill himself if she admitted doing anything?

It seems to me the messengers are being maligned for getting information that needed to be known.

I don't care what Ron has endured or what Misty may have done, I don't get why Ron wasn't Baker Acted immediately for making the threats? Maybe Ron was being overly dramatic, maybe he was trying to manipulate by the drama to prove to Tim he isn't in cahoots with Misty or maybe Ron really is that disturbed...it isn't for a layperson to determine.

imo

Or maybe it didn't happen?
 
  • #169
I truly don't understand why Ron wasn't hauled in for psych evaluation after making threats to himself and somebody else????????

That would have gotten Misty out of danger. And ggma and Butterbean.
 
  • #170
  • #171
I truly don't understand why Ron wasn't hauled in for psych evaluation after making threats to himself and somebody else????????

That would have gotten Misty out of danger. And ggma and Butterbean.

Could it possibly be that the reason Ron wasn't hauled in after making threats to himself or somebody else is because it didn't happen?
 
  • #172
Or maybe it didn't happen?
The fact that someone credible says it did happen makes it worth investigating.

TM is putting his reputation on the line by making the information public.


imo
 
  • #173
If there is a witness saying it happened, there were no independent other witnesses present and no readily apparent proof otherwise, how do the powers to be know that it didn't happen? Are they psychic?
 
  • #174
The fact that someone credible says it did happen makes it worth investigating.

TM is putting his reputation on the line by making the information public.


imo
Apparently the PCSO doesn't think so.
 
  • #175
Apparently the PCSO doesn't think so.

If they ignore obvious concerns like that it might explain why we still don't know what happened to Haleigh.

However, I don't think they've made a clear statement about what they think about the subject.
 
  • #176
Could it possibly be that the reason Ron wasn't hauled in after making threats to himself or somebody else is because it didn't happen?

A witness with no bone to pick says it did happen.

If I went to LE right now and signed a statement saying I saw my neighbor stick a gun in his mouth and that my neighbor told me he was going to shoot his (my neighbor's) wife and himself, LE and ambulances would be knocking on my neighbor's door.

A whole lot of tragedies start with a person under stress making "threats" their loved ones don't think they "mean". It isn't like Ron hasn't been under stress.

jmo
 
  • #177
JMO In Misty's mind, she has been betrayed and double-crossed all of her life. I just don't see how double-crossing or betraying her in the name and/or guise of friendship is going to get her to betray anyone, reveal any secrets or pull out the truth. What has probably happened is Misty will be even MORE careful of who she trusts now, or trust NO one at all.

Referencing the "laundry' done with no laundry detergent, it is entirely possible Misty did do laundry, and used dish detergent. I know poor people who have used dish soap when they don't have money to get laundry detergent.

Again, IMO, I think Misty is telling what she 'knows' and what she 'knows' isn't much. I do not believe she could fool or resist LE, FBI, TM, public opinion and Ron for that long a time on a lie.

Who says Misty has fool all those you mentioned? Perhaps the only reason she isn't in jail is b/c LE is attempting to collect further evidence that may involves others.

NoviceSeeker
MO
 
  • #178
Maybe Tim didn't mention Jr publicly until he had reason to fear the officials weren't going to take his report seriously enough without public pressure?

Such concern would be understandable from anyone who's observed the egregious record of DCF in that regard and the daily tragedies that result. :(

Although I'm still catching up about this particular incident, regardless of what TM or anyone for tha5 matter is doing, a situation such as what the son was exposed to trumps any and everything else. This should have been reported and the child removed until further investigating.

Novice Seeker
My Parental Opinion
 
  • #179
She's 17. She is a child. There is proof of that allegation. As far as the drugs go, I think the statements of eye witnesses of the drug use is proof enough.

She lost that privilege of sympthy for being a child when she chose to step into the adult world and married Ronald.

Novice Seeker
MOO
 
  • #180
Even if DB was sent to befriend MC for the sole purpose of getting information from her about Haleigh, who cares? I don't. Do I think it's moral or 'the right thing to do' in life to befriend someone only because you are trying to get something from them(IOW, "using" someone)in an ordinary everyday situation, no, I do not. Is it right to do this to someone who is being unfairly accused of a crime, such as the disappearance of a child, I don't think so(but on the other hand if they are innocent they can't give any info anyway & probably would understand & get over it pretty quickly). However, when I say "unfairly accused" I mean someone who is being targeted for no known reason, or no good reason. I don't think unfairly accused applies to someone that was the last person to have saw a missing child, and who has told silly lie after silly lie; therefore it doesn't apply to MC. She is at the least guilty of not telling all she knows & not cooperating w/ LE every single time she has been asked to if nothing else; therefore, I could care less about her feelings or anything like that in that respect when someone "pretends" to be her friend. How could I care, because as I said, this is a person who is at the least guilty of holding back info in a missing child case and I don't care about people like that...I care about the child(in this case Haleigh), not the one who is making it extremely hard to find her. There is nothing wrong with a little covert action, if you're on the right team that is. I also do not think that TM would ever do something like this to one of his friends, and imo there is a difference between a friend and whatever one chooses to call one like MC...she is not his friend. All I just wrote is MOO, of course.
 

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