Tim Miller Speaks Out

[Donjeta]

I ment her buddies she partied with. Joe was cleared along time ago. Elle 1919 have you read everything here at ws on this case? Not inferring anything other than you missed some vital information that has been discussed, debated and argued to death. LOL
The fact is LE believes someone came into the home and TOOK HaLeigh and HaLeigh is still alive. What theory do you think they are operating on if they are under this belief?

How do you know this for a fact?

 

[texasmommy39]

How do you know this for a fact?

LE has stated this continously.

 

[texasmommy39]

LE has also stated it was no stranger.

 

[texasmommy39]

Again I ask all what theory do you think they (LE) are operating on if they are under this belief?
NO stranger took HaLeigh.
HaLeigh was abducted.
HaLeigh is still alive.

 

[Donjeta]

I recall LE ruling out stranger abduction but I don't remember them saying it was definitely abduction anyway. Have they changed their statement since they said they don't know what happened to Haleigh and when? The alive comment I took to mean they didn't have definite proof that she was dead.

ETA maybe this should continue in theories thread.

 

[cuppy199]

Well, I don't have any proof one way or another but my common sense says that when people are saying two things that mean the opposite of each other, one or the other has to be untrue, if not both. Of course, there are "honest mistakes", and "differences of personal interpretation", and "misinformation" if you don't like the technical term lies.

For example, if person A says he/she believes that person B is the greatest thing since sliced bread and would never do anything to hurt a child and wouldn't lie either, so there! And person A also says that they believe that person B is lying and had something to do with it. Can both be true at the same time? Or if person A says there was a fight, and person B says there wasn't a fight. Or if person A says person B passed her LDTs when in fact B didn't, did person A tell a lie or did someone else tell him/her one?

Another example: Did Ron lie on TV when he stated on NG the other night that he wasn't concerned that Misty had flunked her polygraphs, and that he supports her completely until he gets delivered some proof that she lies about anything? IMO he had better be lying about not being concerned because it's just unnatural for any parent not be concerned about information with potential serious consequences regarding the fate of their child. The only reasons that I can think of that would make the first part about unconcern about the epic fail is if he set her up to fail and achieved the desired result, either because he wants to sleuth her out and get her arrested finally or frame her as a scapegoat. But in that case the other part about supporting her totally was a lie...

There just are times when you can't have it both ways and you must either eat the cake or lie about it.

How do we know Ronald isnt concerned for his child? And unless you have actually be through it how can anyone say what is unnatural or not. Even then everyone handles things differently.Not to mention he wouldn't be the first person to stand by someone he loved until evidence proved other wise. How can Misty be this big lair and some dont believe a word she says but some how if she was to say hey Ronald did she would be believible.Either you believe her or you dont. JMO But if Ronald was that darn wise to set Misty up to fail her test to save his but as you imply he would of been smart enough to cover it from the beginning and we wouldn't even be discussing Ronald to begin with.Sorry but I personally dont believe Ronald is that smart.I know we will never agree but we can agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Malesherbes]

How do we know Ronald isnt concerned for his child? And unless you have actually be through it how can anyone say what is unnatural or not. Even then everyone handles things differently.Not to mention he wouldn't be the first person to stand by someone he loved until evidence proved other wise. How can Misty be this big lair and some dont believe a word she says but some how if she was to say hey Ronald did she would be believible.Either you believe her or you dont. JMO But if Ronald was that darn wise to set Misty up to fail her test to save his but as you imply he would of been smart enough to cover it from the beginning and we wouldn't even be discussing Ronald to begin with.Sorry but I personally dont believe Ronald is that smart.I know we will never agree but we can agree to disagree on this one.

Well, I know Ron isn't very concerned about finding Haleigh because he is standing behind the child that was last seen with her, the one who has failed numerous tests, and is 99 deceptive when asked if she knows what happened to HaLeigh. He is standing behind her, and isn't showing any indication thats going to change anytime soon-

jmo

 

[Donjeta]

How do we know Ronald isnt concerned for his child? And unless you have actually be through it how can anyone say what is unnatural or not. Even then everyone handles things differently.Not to mention he wouldn't be the first person to stand by someone he loved until evidence proved other wise. How can Misty be this big lair and some dont believe a word she says but some how if she was to say hey Ronald did she would be believible.Either you believe her or you dont. JMO But if Ronald was that darn wise to set Misty up to fail her test to save his but as you imply he would of been smart enough to cover it from the beginning and we wouldn't even be discussing Ronald to begin with.Sorry but I personally dont believe Ronald is that smart.I know we will never agree but we can agree to disagree on this one.

Just IMO. If Ronald is concerned for his child, then he must be concerned with the reports that Misty keeps flunking her LDTs because it may very probably have very dramatic bearing on what happened to his child. If he doesn't believe she did anything wrong because he loves her and supports her till the end, then he should be concerned anyway, because flunking the LDTs doesn't make people think kinder thoughts of the woman he loves and supports till the end and he would be naturally concerned for her psychological welfare right now and the potential for legal ramifications for her further down the road. Also he would be concerned that her being thought a liar focuses the investigation to her and not elsewhere where he thinks the real perps are.

People are different but most are not that different. If he's that different then I worry about his mental state.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I read some where that MC told Tim Miller?The test could be wrong because she doesn't know if she dreamt this or not.But 4 persons could have been in the house?Does any one know anything about this?

 

[elle1919]

I ment her buddies she partied with. Joe was cleared along time ago. Elle 1919 have you read everything here at ws on this case? Not inferring anything other than you missed some vital information that has been discussed, debated and argued to death. LOL
The fact is LE believes someone came into the home and TOOK HaLeigh and HaLeigh is still alive. What theory do you think they are operating on if they are under this belief?

Yes texasmommy I have read and re-read everything here at WS, and I can't recall where LE stated that Cousin Joe was cleared. I read that they went into Tennessee and interviewed him but never that he was cleared. Of course there is always the chance that I missed this news from LE so if you wouldn't mind pointing me in the right direction where I can read that Joe was cleared that would be great.

As far as missing vital information, with all due respect, I think that you might have missed some too because the last word we had from LE was that the biological parents of Haleigh Cummings, RC and CS, were cleared and not considered suspects. For the past few months LE has listed the person that they have questions for still and that person is Misty Cummings. Not Crystal.
Yet I still manage to read quite a few posts here, posts by yourself included, that elude to Crystal and her family being behind Haleigh's disappearance. It is your right to hold strong to your opinions that the Sheffield family is the family that is lying but please don't quote my post and drag me into an argument. I have been pretty clear on who I support.....and that is Haleigh. Until LE tells the public that we should question the honesty of the biological parents I will continue to believe that they loved their daughter and want her to come home.

 

[elle1919]

Very very sorry just realized what thread we were in. Completely went off topic and out of the Tim Miller conversation.

 

[sleepingheart]

My guess is the person who "came forward" with such a tip had no real knowledge if she was at home or not. (I can well imagine what group reported that one.) If it was an actual witness, they would have treated it differently. Evidently, they cannot find anything to substantiate it and why they have asked for others to provide them with proof. They cannot put her in jail because of a rumor.

I agree with you almost 100%, except I always thought that there was a high possibility that that particular tip was phoned in by an anonymous member of any of the numerous online Haleigh forums. I've thought that from the beginning b/c, that is one of the first theories("MC not at home")that many on here & other places thought of & posted about. JMO, of course.

 

[elle1919]

yes it was sleepingheart, maybe people were trying to make sense out of a child being snatched right out from underneath Misty's nose practically. The statement that she wasn't at home did start very early on.

 

[sleepingheart]

..........and Nancy Grace wants to know why Crystal doesn't know the simplest facts of this case.............it's because everyone she has to depend on to tell her those facts are LIARS!!!!!!

Criminy.

:clap::clap:That was brilliant, debs:clap::clap:

 

[Jade]

:clap::clap:That was brilliant, debs:clap::clap:

The school personnel are lairs?

Wasn’t it about not knowing time and grade? Crystal would not be denied that information by the school!

IMO it would be farfetched to think the school was somehow in cahoots.

 

[Zephyr]

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As far as missing vital information, with all due respect, I think that you might have missed some too because the last word we had from LE was that the biological parents of Haleigh Cummings, RC and CS, were cleared and not considered suspects.

The last word I can remember hearing from LE is from PCSO's spokesperson, Lt. Johnny Greenwood. He wrote that Crystal and Ron were not suspects.

Has LE actually said they've been cleared? Because LE's saying someone is "not a suspect" is a very far cry from saying they've been cleared.


This post is my opinion only. Do not confuse with fact.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

The school personnel are lairs?

Wasn’t it about not knowing time and grade? Crystal would not be denied that information by the school!

IMO it would be farfetched to think the school was somehow in cahoots.

Crystal didn't know what time Haleigh's school bus arrived at Ron's mh park. Actually, I doubt the school would give bus arrival information over the phone to a non-custodial parent, or anyone else. I sure hope they wouldn't. I wouldn't want the school telling strangers over the phone what time my child would be arriving at the bus stop. What if the person calling had no rights to the child and planned on intercepting the child on their way home from the bus stop ? I would hope school personnel would refer the caller to the child's custodial parent.

 

[PorcineGranny]

The school personnel are lairs?

Wasn’t it about not knowing time and grade? Crystal would not be denied that information by the school!

IMO it would be farfetched to think the school was somehow in cahoots.

Jade, I am old and have experienced many things with exceptional children, I do not trust one word the school says about anything. But in this case, I think Crystal was completely removed from her children's lives except for the brief time they spent with her. She had been excised like a tumor by Ron and she didn't really question him anymore, because he always won. I can understand this very well and this is just my humble opinion.

 

[Zephyr]

Listened to tape of Tim Miller talking about what Ron told him concerning the bed and the dirty clothes, and initially thought I heard Tim say "drawer" instead of "drier". Listened again and believe it's definitely "drier", but the way Tim says "drier" sounds an awfully lot like "drawer" to me. I'm wondering if Ron actually said that the clothes in the drawer were dirty, and then Tim thought Ron said "drier".

There was a lot of discussion on another thread about dirty clothes being in the drier. Does anyone else think Tim may possibly have misunderstood Ron? BTW, I LOVE Tim Miller!


This post is my opinion only. Do not confuse with fact.

 

[Donjeta]

IMHO it's just another distraction. Crystal knowing or not knowing the bus time tables has nothing to do with anything. She did not pick Haleigh up from the bus stop so Crystal did not need that information before she went missing, and the story about Haleigh's disappearance was that she was seen long after the pick up from the bus stop so I don't see why Crystal should have called the school to inquire about the bus time tables. Whether it was 3:30 or 3:45 makes no difference if she was abducted sometime after 10 pm.