Tim Miller Speaks Out

[KOOL LOOK]

I am sorry to have thrown you with my PM LOL. I had been kicking around that theory since TM and NJ did the press release. I am thinking I had posted it before and will search for it or pull my theory together and will post. Should I post it here or in the theory thread?

Theory thread would be spectacular...unless it involves TM I guess. : )

Probably relates to both threads and would be nice so our guests can read up, as some are new and haven't been around as long as some of you real old women, hehehehe

Am starting another thread soon, anyone wanna guess what this one's gonna be? I almost did it 3 times, did do it last week, and hit the wrong thing on my keyboard and zapped it. LOL


ETA: dang it, now I got company, here to do some landscaping of my erosion in my side and back yard leading to the creepy boooooooo creek in the back booooooooo and they will want me to feed them. Bologna anyone?

ETA: missjames, thanks for the reminder of the hard work Tim and volunteers do in un-bearable weather conditions

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I am sorry to have thrown you with my PM LOL. I had been kicking around that theory since TM and NJ did the press release. I am thinking I had posted it before and will search for it or pull my theory together and will post. Should I post it here or in the theory thread?

Just don't throw me in the water. You did throw me for a loop, shame shame shame. But I will keep it in my mind, as I don't want to not consider all possibilties of this case.

 

[fay]

I don't know how to take Tim Miller and his statements lately. He's all over the place in Haleighs case. Statements are contradictory.

Tim sounds off at video link below
http://www.wesh.com/video/21431618/index.html


in this video of Tim speaking with the Reporter named Michelle, he mentions a new tid bit I never heard before. Misty wanted to commit suicide according to Tim. He claims Donna took Misty to the Hospital and after being there for three hours, Misty refused treatment and they left.


article

http://www.wesh.com/news/21431079/detail.html
gathered links from stickies, Bless Angel Who Cares for her hard work around ws.

In light of the last comments TM made in regards to Mark Klass and those remarks did not sit well with the admin of this board or many member of this board, I really don't know if it is appropriate to start this thread. If anything maybe it should be in the media links thread.
TM has tarnished his reputation with many here, rightly so.
JMO, Fay

 

[texasmommy39]

Ok.... I have searched and I did not post my theory about this.
I imagine it will be in my best interest to keep it to myself. LOL
ETA: I will state I believe TM will have the oppertunity to explain his motives and actions or have no need when HaLeigh is found and returned.

 

[Baznme]

Ok, well I won't bother to try and clarify my posts from now on, since you seem to think I am not truthful. Thanks.

Curvecuti, I never said you were untruthful. Now c'mon, who's twisting things now? I just have a very difficult time believing that if my child, your child or the neighbor's child were to come up missing, that we wouldn't all want TES as a resource. They are very good at what they do. Maybe you don't feel that way about it right now but of the cases they do locate, they are worth their weight in gold. One of those cases could be ours.

 

[cyberborg]

ITA with Tim Miller, HALEIGH will never be found as long as her
family and MISTY won't tell the truth..........they KNOW where she is!
They put her there, IMO

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

ITA! Also, everyone is venting and pushing back against TM big time. Don't shoot the poor messenger just because you are very frustrated. It is the core family you need to vent against.

It has been stated MANY times that TM is playing games with the family to try to open a break and get leads that will help in any future search. Absent cooperation from the core family, he can search but he will be looking for a skeletonized needle in a county-wide haystack.

Folks are conflicted, they want TES to search but don't want HaLeigh to be dead or for him to say so publicly. Any TES search will be searching for a skeleton.

 

[cyberborg]

In my opinion what Ronald and Crystal need to do is unite as a one front and demand justice for their daughter. In my opinion they have not done this in this case and it is way past time to join forces in the name of their missing child.

IMO Crystal cannot offer much at all, she was not the prime caregiver or involved in that night --- it is all on Ron and Misty to cooperate with LE.

 

[Malesherbes]

In light of the last comments TM made in regards to Mark Klass and those remarks did not sit well with the admin of this board or many member of this board, I really don't know if it is appropriate to start this thread. If anything maybe it should be in the media links thread.
TM has tarnished his reputation with many here, rightly so.
JMO, Fay

How sad that with all Tim Miller has done in his life to help others, one mess up, that was ratted out by Ronald Cummings who just wanted the truth no matter what, he said- tipped off the person he let go so she wouldnt slip up and say something about Haleigh to Donna Brock, and now all the people and families Tim has helped is forever tarnished is a travesty-

I mean, lets just set aside the FACT, that he was called in by the Cummings family-

Wow, sad-

 

[elle1919]

In light of the last comments TM made in regards to Mark Klass and those remarks did not sit well with the admin of this board or many member of this board, I really don't know if it is appropriate to start this thread. If anything maybe it should be in the media links thread.
TM has tarnished his reputation with many here, rightly so.
JMO, Fay

Hi Fay, I just wanted to make sure that you had read about the recent comments Tim Miller made about his self proclaimed "cheap shot". From an earlier AH article here:http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-no-way-misty-hurt-haleigh-cummings-hank-croslin/

snip~He also tells me he regrets the cheap shot he took at Mark Klaas (“F, Mark Klaas…,” he said here) in an exclusive interview he gave The Bald Truth last week, after the fellow missing child advocate trashed Miller for “Operation Misty,” his amateur undercover attempt to use a volunteer to win Misty’s confidence and get her to open her up about any secrets investigators believe she may be withholding about the case. Misty denies she knows anything she hasn’t shared.

“It was mean and uncalled for and I regret saying it,” Miller told me.

“Both Mark and I have suffered personal losses in our fight to save children and find missing people. We both have different ways we go about helping families, but the caring comes from the same place.”~ end snip

I was bothered by the statements he made initially too but we are all human and mistakes and such are made by the absolute best of us in my opinion. I just wanted to make sure you saw the comments, I know some people don't bother with AH's website.

 

[curvecuti]

IMO Crystal cannot offer much at all, she was not the prime caregiver or involved in that night --- it is all on Ron and Misty to cooperate with LE.

She is Crystal's daughter too. I think CS could have alot to offer, if people would stop treating her like she is helpless and clueless.

 

[texasmommy39]

IMVHO Tim Miller is not the bad guy.......... he will be held accountable for everything that has been said and done, but, if it brings HaLeigh home ........ and I do believe that is what motivates Tim Miller everyday he wakes and that is knowing this baby is still missing and someone or everyone is lying. I was definitely offended with Tim Millers comments about HaLeigh, but, again after reflection and having more info this morning it again seems apparent TM has not strayed far from my theory after all and in fact has done the very thing I had speculated he was trying to accomplish.

 

[stilettos]

How sad that with all Tim Miller has done in his life to help others, one mess up, that was ratted out by Ronald Cummings who just wanted the truth no matter what, he said- tipped off the person he let go so she wouldnt slip up and say something about Haleigh to Donna Brock, and now all the people and families Tim has helped is forever tarnished is a travesty-

I mean, lets just set aside the FACT, that he was called in by the Cummings family-

Wow, sad-

Sad...and the man has admitted that he regrets saying the "F" word about MK. I am sure that should someone state on National TV what was said about TM...well..i may drop the F bomb too. Then I would repent....and regret it. Human he is, and a man of integrity. Shame that the dregs of society involved in this case can tarnish the image of such a man. IMO.

 

[cyberborg]

She is Crystal's daughter too. I think CS could have alot to offer, if people would stop treating her like she is helpless and clueless.

How so? Please explain.

She knows about HaLeigh, her description and health issues but, unless someone has told her the events of that night --- she does not know the truth of the timeline of events and what happened to HaLeigh that night, unless Ron since told her?

 

[fay]

Hi Fay, I just wanted to make sure that you had read about the recent comments Tim Miller made about his self proclaimed "cheap shot". From an earlier AH article here:http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/21/exclusive-no-way-misty-hurt-haleigh-cummings-hank-croslin/

snip~He also tells me he regrets the cheap shot he took at Mark Klaas (“F, Mark Klaas…,” he said here) in an exclusive interview he gave The Bald Truth last week, after the fellow missing child advocate trashed Miller for “Operation Misty,” his amateur undercover attempt to use a volunteer to win Misty’s confidence and get her to open her up about any secrets investigators believe she may be withholding about the case. Misty denies she knows anything she hasn’t shared.

“It was mean and uncalled for and I regret saying it,” Miller told me.

“Both Mark and I have suffered personal losses in our fight to save children and find missing people. We both have different ways we go about helping families, but the caring comes from the same place.”~ end snip

I was bothered by the statements he made initially too but we are all human and mistakes and such are made by the absolute best of us in my opinion. I just wanted to make sure you saw the comments, I know some people don't bother with AH's website.

Thank you for your reasonable reply to my post, I had not read that. Perhaps his apology will go a long way towards rebuilding good will, not towards the work TES does but towards the man Tim is.
thank you, Fay

 

[Malesherbes]

Sad...and the man has admitted that he regrets saying the "F" word about MK. I am sure that should someone state on National TV what was said about TM...well..i may drop the F bomb too. Then I would repent....and regret it. Human he is, and a man of integrity. Shame that the dregs of society involved in this case can tarnish the image of such a man. IMO.

The fact is, Tim Miller to some is awesome and the best ever, when he says stuff like, Dont judge Ron unless you walked in his shoes, but god forbid he says something like, the child is dead, he is a bad guy who should abandon his life work and helping others, all because of Ronald Cummings TIPPING off Misty about Donna, after saying to the cops, I divorced her, I am not holding her back, I cant believe Ronald Cummings is more trustworty and honorable than Tim Miller-

Sad-

jmo

 

[Baznme]

How so? Please explain.

She knows about HaLeigh, her description and health issues but, unless someone has told her the events of that night --- she does not know the truth of the timeline of events and what happened to HaLeigh that night, unless Ron since told her?

I would think there's a lot they could offer. Not all info that leads to the resolution to a case is about the very day/night that the even happened. There are past friends of hers and Ron's, friends of their friends, people CS MG have spoken to since this occurred, etc. There could be some small detail that could come out to break the case. You never know and you have to admit it's certainly worth the try.

 

[elle1919]

IMO Crystal cannot offer much at all, she was not the prime caregiver or involved in that night --- it is all on Ron and Misty to cooperate with LE.

well I don't see Crystal's backside planted in a seat at the sheriffs office demanding answers about what happened to her child. Whether she wanted the job or not she is Haleigh's mother. With all due respect Law Enforcement has not cleared her yet either and if they can clear an AC Man perhaps they could take a bit of time to clear Crystal?

I hardly see her on tv at all and just because Nancy Grace was tough on her...well if I was Crystal I wouldn't let that stop me, Nancy Grace can't clear anyone, only LE can do that and if I was in any way shape or form connected to Haleigh, much less her Mommy or Daddy, I would be hitting the pavement every darn day until I learned the truth about where my child was. And if LE said they couldn't clear me I would be asking why the heck not and doing whatever they asked to get the job done. JMO

 

[curvecuti]

How so? Please explain.

She knows about HaLeigh, her description and health issues but, unless someone has told her the events of that night --- she does not know the truth of the timeline of events and what happened to HaLeigh that night, unless Ron since told her?

As I said in a post from last night, I am sure CS has suspicions and places she would like to have searched. She could also do as elle suggested, and ask LE what exactly they need from her and her side of the family to be cleared publicly. If it were my child and I did not have full time custody, I would demand that I be cleared publicly, and would do whatever it took to get to that point. I would also ask all my family members to also do whatever it took to be cleared. She has no control over what RC, MC and their families do but she has full control of her own actions and resposibilities to her daughter. MG says CS has contact w/ PCSO about the case, so it should be easy to get these questions asked.

Disclaimer: The above are only MY ideas of what CS might do, and what I think I would do in the same situation. If she doesn't do anything, that is fine w/ me, I am answering the question I was asked.

 

[cyberborg]

I would think there's a lot they could offer. Not all info that leads to the resolution to a case is about the very day/night that the even happened. There are past friends of hers and Ron's, friends of their friends, people CS MG have spoken to since this occurred, etc. There could be some small detail that could come out to break the case. You never know and you have to admit it's certainly worth the try.

Good point. Thanks.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

In light of the last comments TM made in regards to Mark Klass and those remarks did not sit well with the admin of this board or many member of this board, I really don't know if it is appropriate to start this thread. If anything maybe it should be in the media links thread.
TM has tarnished his reputation with many here, rightly so.
JMO, Fay

Fay your opinion is very valuable to me. I didn't start the thread at all about what you have mentioned. We had a thread on that, Tricia closed it and she wanted that subject to be done around here.

My point in this thread is: Has Tim became a player in the case, involved, or is he still a National Search organization. If Tim continues on this Journey, he's becoming a player, a witness, an investigator and so on. It's come to the point for me, he's not an outsider doing a job, he's just as involved now and should be discussed as he seems to always be the topic of discussion around here in all the threads, so appropriately having a Tim thread. Hope I explained my outlook. :blushing: