Tim Miller Speaks Out

[KOOL LOOK]

Sad...and the man has admitted that he regrets saying the "F" word about MK. I am sure that should someone state on National TV what was said about TM...well..i may drop the F bomb too. Then I would repent....and regret it. Human he is, and a man of integrity. Shame that the dregs of society involved in this case can tarnish the image of such a man. IMO.

This subject and thread was closed by Tricia, and I have honored that. However the "F" bomb is not what upset those who were upset as we all know.

 

[stilettos]

This subject and thread was closed by Tricia, and I have honored that.

Thanks for responding, KOOL. When I said dregs...I, in no way was referring to you or anyone else online. I am sorry if my post was confusing.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Thanks for responding, KOOL. When I said dregs...I, in no way was referring to you or anyone else online. I am sorry if my post was confusing.

You may want to scroll up as I did add to this post you quoted. I genuinely am grateful for your apology and trust you meant I'm not a dreg, whatever that means. LOL No confusion here, I just want to abide by the tos and any extra boundaries Tricia or Animal put in place as the case moves forward here at Webslueths.

 

[fay]

Fay your opinion is very valuable to me. I didn't start the thread at all about what you have mentioned. We had a thread on that, Tricia closed it and she wanted that subject to be done around here.

My point in this thread is: Has Tim became a player in the case, involved, or is he still a National Search organization. If Tim continues on this Journey, he's becoming a player, a witness, an investigator and so on. It's come to the point for me, he's not an outsider doing a job, he's just as involved now and should be discussed as he seems to always be the topic of discussion around here in all the threads, so appropriately having a Tim thread. Hope I explained my outlook. :blushing:

Now I understand where your going with this, interesting.
Time will tell, I guess. That a lots and lots of prayer.

 

[debs]

Forgive me if I misunderstand, then...........is it being suggested that Tim Miller, having been fresh off the Caylee case, determined to insert himself in the Haleigh case for publicity, donations, or any other mercenary reason other than that LE or the family contacted him and he responded immediately to come to Satsuma and search for Haleigh?

Is that what I'm to understand this thread is eventually working it's way to saying?

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Now I understand where your going with this, interesting.
Time will tell, I guess. That a lots and lots of prayer.

Does anyone think he's doing this with LE's Blessings? Since obviously their not talking, but then they disputed one of his most recent statements posted earlier in this thread, my head swims trying to figure out motive. LOL

 

[elle1919]

I am very confuzzled. I must not be following along correctly here.

 

[fay]

Forgive me if I misunderstand, then...........is it being suggested that Tim Miller, having been fresh off the Caylee case, determined to insert himself in the Haleigh case for publicity, donations, or any other mercenary reason other than that LE or the family contacted him and he responded immediately to come to Satsuma and search for Haleigh?

Is that what I'm to understand this thread is eventually working it's way to saying?

Debs, I read and re-read your post and really I don't know. I watched him during the Anthony case become very entrenched in the family and the media, it was becoming less of a search mission and more of an event. I don't know what to think, my view is he should come set up a command post, do the ground searches post flyers etc.
If fund raising is helpful to his organization in high profile cases what's the harm I guess, I don't know.
So I think the purpose of this thread is to discuss the meaning of the involvement of TES on this current level. Since I have no other cases to compare it to than the Anthony case, nothing seems out of the ordinary. lol

 

[cyberborg]

Does anyone think he's doing this with LE's Blessings? Since obviously their not talking, but then they disputed one of his most recent statements posted earlier in this thread, my head swims trying to figure out motive. LOL

Not so sure on that, it depends on who in LE you talk to -- is the opinion expressed by one rep the true consensus of LE? .... or .... damage control to officially distance LE from TES for legal/media reasons while quietly fully supporting TM?

I am not convinced that TM is not doing EXACTLY what LE want.

 

[cyberborg]

Maybe it is just me but I personally see exactly why TM and TES need to be involved as they are in cases such as this and why they need to investigate to a point.

TM obviously cares about HaLeigh and wants to return her home. He wants to care about the family as well since he personally knows what it is like but given his vast years of practical experience, he knows hinky when he sees it.

IIRC TM was sucked back into this case via pleas from TN, that Misty was cracking up and it was time to go get her! There was a desire to put further pressure on Misty to get her to tell the truth.

Also, as a part of the deal for TES to search TM needs info and leads to focus the search else -- as I stated -- TES can search but it will be like searching for a needle in a county-wide haystack.

As part of that Misty agreed, was coerced by family to do the whole poly, LVA and, hypno thing. She did NOT tell the truth and the results of that work further reinforced the consensus that Misty was hiding info that would lead directly to HaLeigh.

And so, to cut a long post short -- TM was sucked into this upon request of the family and has become somewhat of an investigator in order to establish where to search.

To me, TM is searching. He is putting pressure on the family and is searching for a way to get the core family open up and tell the truth. Misty is the key. TM is searching via Misty to locate HaLeigh. TM was using Donna as undercover momma to search until roadragegate and Ron texted Misty to tip her off.

TM is searching but he is not searching homes, he is not searching grounds or water --- he is searching the family for clues and it is his only and best chance to recover HaLeigh and bring her home. IMHO.

He is searching for the truth.

 

[MissJames]

Does anyone think he's doing this with LE's Blessings? Since obviously their not talking, but then they disputed one of his most recent statements posted earlier in this thread, my head swims trying to figure out motive. LOL

I am willing to bet Tim Miller has more experience in these types of searches than anyone in LE in Satsuma.

 

[MissJames]

Debs, I read and re-read your post and really I don't know. I watched him during the Anthony case become very entrenched in the family and the media, it was becoming less of a search mission and more of an event. I don't know what to think, my view is he should come set up a command post, do the ground searches post flyers etc.
If fund raising is helpful to his organization in high profile cases what's the harm I guess, I don't know.
So I think the purpose of this thread is to discuss the meaning of the involvement of TES on this current level. Since I have no other cases to compare it to than the Anthony case, nothing seems out of the ordinary. lol

Maybe it would be helpful to look at some of the cases Tim has helped resolve.The cases where the families ,themselves,weren't somehow involved or found to be suspicious.That's the work Tim has been doing for years!!!!!
That is his legacy,his promise to his daughter.Tim did not insert himself into either case.He was asked to come in both.
Sadly ,it's the drama surrounding these two FL families that seems to breed distrust of anyone involved.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Maybe it would be helpful to look at some of the cases Tim has helped resolve.The cases where the families ,themselves,weren't somehow involved or found to be suspicious.That's the work Tim has been doing for years!!!!!
That is his legacy,his promise to his daughter.Tim did not insert himself into either case.He was asked to come in both.
Sadly ,it's the drama surrounding these two FL families that seems to breed distrust of anyone involved.

I agree with you 100% on the Anthony case. Not so much on Haleigh's case. Tim is causing a good bit of drama in this case himself, along with an associate. IMO, and it's ok if others don't agree, the media, bloggers, internet users, forums, family, private investigator, and others have caused alot of the drama. Not the family. Ron and families lives are watched under a microscope, nit picked apart on everything they do. Then people talk about it to ad nauseum, blowing it up, making more out of it than it really is.

I don't know how this family takes it everyday. What if Haleigh is never found, will this family that we do not know if they own the guilt of Haleigh's disappearance, be treated like this for the rest of their lives? That would be sad and wrong to me. I only want who is guilty to pay the price, not innocent people. Overall though, I agree with you, "Drama" has really made this case anything but credible.

 

[mnegri1973]

This is only my opinion, however TM has in my eyes made remarks about the case that was told to him in confidence. I also believe that he has over stepped his role from search organizer to wanna be LE.

At the very beginning of this thread TM reportedly made comments about how Donna took Misty to the hospital due to the fact that Misty was making threats about committing suicide. Now WHY would he make that public if it is true. The same with Ron holding the gun to his head and making threats against Misty's life. IMO Tim should have told LE about these events but WHY would he tell an internet blogger? That is what confuses me.

TM does good work and has helped numerous families, as the head of TES and as a searcher. That is where he needs to stay. However IMO in this case he crossed that line and now we are seeing the consequences of his choices.

Again, this is all my own opinion.

M~

 

[MissJames]

This is only my opinion, however TM has in my eyes made remarks about the case that was told to him in confidence. I also believe that he has over stepped his role from search organizer to wanna be LE.

At the very beginning of this thread TM reportedly made comments about how Donna took Misty to the hospital due to the fact that Misty was making threats about committing suicide. Now WHY would he make that public if it is true. The same with Ron holding the gun to his head and making threats against Misty's life. IMO Tim should have told LE about these events but WHY would he tell an internet blogger? That is what confuses me.

TM does good work and has helped numerous families, as the head of TES and as a searcher. That is where he needs to stay. However IMO in this case he crossed that line and now we are seeing the consequences of his choices.

Again, this is all my own opinion.

M~

I don't disagree with you at all,but I think a lot of it has to do with all the extra baggage that comes along with these two families.I wish Tim would walk away from this one,though.

 

[MissJames]

I agree with you 100% on the Anthony case. Not so much on Haleigh's case. Tim is causing a good bit of drama in this case himself, along with an associate. IMO, and it's ok if others don't agree, the media, bloggers, internet users, forums, family, private investigator, and others have caused alot of the drama. Not the family. Ron and families lives are watched under a microscope, nit picked apart on everything they do. Then people talk about it to ad nauseum, blowing it up, making more out of it than it really is.

I don't know how this family takes it everyday. What if Haleigh is never found, will this family that we do not know if they own the guilt of Haleigh's disappearance, be treated like this for the rest of their lives? That would be sad and wrong to me. I only want who is guilty to pay the price, not innocent people. Overall though, I agree with you, "Drama" has really made this case anything but credible.

I haven't gone through a fraction of what Haleigh's family has gone through,but I did lose my 15yr old son to suicide.Along with that came the LE and CSI unit through our home,the coroner ,the autopsy and the stigma. One of my daughters was asked by her friend's mother if James had been sexually abused as a child! Others thought we must have missed "the signs". So I can relate to the guilt and the gossip,though not on a national scale!I can relate to the wondering what happened,though I was able to lay my son to rest,so to speak.
Regardless of their lifestyle and their "drama" I feel horrible for all of Haleigh's family. They have had to endure so much. It hasn't been pretty,but they still come back into the public spotlight in the hope of finding Haleigh.In the end that's what's important.

 

[debs]

I agree with you 100% on the Anthony case. Not so much on Haleigh's case. Tim is causing a good bit of drama in this case himself, along with an associate. IMO, and it's ok if others don't agree, the media, bloggers, internet users, forums, family, private investigator, and others have caused alot of the drama. Not the family. Ron and families lives are watched under a microscope, nit picked apart on everything they do. Then people talk about it to ad nauseum, blowing it up, making more out of it than it really is.

I don't know how this family takes it everyday. What if Haleigh is never found, will this family that we do not know if they own the guilt of Haleigh's disappearance, be treated like this for the rest of their lives? That would be sad and wrong to me. I only want who is guilty to pay the price, not innocent people. Overall though, I agree with you, "Drama" has really made this case anything but credible.

Your complaint over what Tim did with regard to anything to do with getting Misty to take LVA and poly tests in August should be directed toward Misty's former mother-in-law who, on tape, is directing what Tim should do.

I only feel sad that Tim was sucked in to someone else's game, and when it did not go the way this person wanted, threw him out like garbage and has sought time and again to sully his name.

I suggest his name is still golden, his heart pure, and his motives without impunity. It is to his credit that he showed up at a benefit concert for Haleigh Cummings.

Thank you for all you do, Mr. Miller.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Your complaint over what Tim did with regard to anything to do with getting Misty to take LVA and poly tests in August should be directed toward Misty's former mother-in-law who, on tape, is directing what Tim should do.

I only feel sad that Tim was sucked in to someone else's game, and when it did not go the way this person wanted, threw him out like garbage and has sought time and again to sully his name.

I suggest his name is still golden, his heart pure, and his motives without impunity. It is to his credit that he showed up at a benefit concert for Haleigh Cummings.

Thank you for all you do, Mr. Miller.

my problem with Tim and those tests is how he took it public, without Misty having the benefit of defending herself then and there alongside him. Not to mention the tests aren't 100 percent accurate and reliable, so to use them to publically dis-credit someone based solely on them is wrong.

Who received the proceeds from the benefit concert you mentioned?

 

[debs]

my problem with Tim and those tests is how he took it public, without Misty having the benefit of defending herself then and there alongside him. Not to mention the tests aren't 100 percent accurate and reliable, so to use them to publically dis-credit someone based solely on them is wrong.

Who received the proceeds from the benefit concert you mentioned?

Are you suggesting that Tim Miller set up this concert, had Marie and Crystal and Savannah there, and did it all only to get the money the band raised? I sure don't see it that way.

Teresa Neves set Misty up with those tests. Seems to me that everyone benefited from Tim arranging them, until he wasn't going to lie about what happened. Seems to me, Teresa should be ashamed to have set up such a charade in the first place. I mean, until that day, she was on NG extolling the virtues of her daughter-in-law.

Then, like you said before.....that whole family "forsook" her. Threw her to the curb. Tossed her homeless hiney out onto the street.

That is no one's fault but Teresa's. All Tim did was think he was helping a grieving family.

 

[txsvicki]

If I had someone go missing I'd call TM to come search, but after witnessing all the gossip fest drama going on combined with the NG show, I'd never allow anything other than a search from anyone or any missing person organization. I'm concerned that all the hoopla surrounding some of these cases is causing children to not be found when they're right under people's noses. For example, Caylee was right down the street and no one even searched there in the week or two before the hurricane hit. What if the same thing is going on with Haleigh and she's right there close to home while all the hoopla and carrying on takes place! I also do not agree at all with telling the world that Misty mentioned suicide. That is not right IMO.