Tim Miller Speaks Out

[Flossie JMO]

I wonder if all of this does end up pushing Misty to end her life (which would be horrible) what will Tim and LE do next?

 

[debs]

I wonder if all of this does end up pushing Misty to end her life (which would be horrible) what will Tim and LE do next?

How is it possible that LE (who has known that Misty failed her poly with them, has been inconsistent from the beginning, and from very early on have stated Misty is the key) and Tim Miller, who is attempting to find a missing child, is to even be considered in the same sentence with whatever it is that Misty may do with her life?

She is demonstrably capable of making her own choices and surely does not take advice from even her lawyer, so I am hard pressed to understand how anyone BUT her can be responsible (as, according to the law, she is) for her own actions and any legal repercussions thereof.

 

[Boytwnmom]

the issue in this case. The people who have clearly and repeatedly lied and refused to cooperate and those who assisted that evasion are the issues most closely related to Haleigh's disappearance. Tim Miller holds no key to finding Haleigh. IMO, he was used by certain family members to further their own agenda. The search he could offer was not the point. Everything is geared to deflect and confuse. Trashing TM will not find Haleigh, accusing TM of improper motives will not find Haleigh. I do not assess people's character and credibility in terms of isolated incidents but on the whole of their life's work. IMO, there is no comparison between Tim Miller's history and that of others close to this case. Sorry, but I can't muster an iota of sympathy for people whose concern is for LE to "move on" and leave them alone while Haleigh is missing. All of my concern is reserved for Haleigh. The rest of these people seem to do just fine on their own. Haleigh is the only one who needs someone.

Are you suggesting that Tim Miller set up this concert, had Marie and Crystal and Savannah there, and did it all only to get the money the band raised? I sure don't see it that way.

Teresa Neves set Misty up with those tests. Seems to me that everyone benefited from Tim arranging them, until he wasn't going to lie about what happened. Seems to me, Teresa should be ashamed to have set up such a charade in the first place. I mean, until that day, she was on NG extolling the virtues of her daughter-in-law.

Then, like you said before.....that whole family "forsook" her. Threw her to the curb. Tossed her homeless hiney out onto the street.

That is no one's fault but Teresa's. All Tim did was think he was helping a grieving family.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Trashing TM will not find Haleigh, accusing TM of improper motives will not find Haleigh.

I agree, and the same applies to trashing Ron, Misty and Teresa imo, yet that's been going on since February. It's more than 8 months later and from the outside looking in, it appears no progress has been made. Looking in another direction would be a good idea imo.

 

[Boytwnmom]

and not ensuring Misty equal time. He violated no law or oath of office. He is a private citizen who arranged for tests to help him determine whether he could help find a missing child. These tests were not about some inconsequential thing but about what happened to a child who is missing and likely dead and whether the only people who could give essential information were in fact doing so or whether they were lying and trying to use him and his organization, which performs critical search functions, for a purpose other than finding Haleigh. This is not a game show or reality television. This is the harshest type of reality. The only person owed anything in this circunstance is Haleigh. Misty has had her 15 minutes and spun her tale in interviews and on TV-whatever synpathy I may have for her in another situation is not availabe here as she is not the victim.

my problem with Tim and those tests is how he took it public, without Misty having the benefit of defending herself then and there alongside him. Not to mention the tests aren't 100 percent accurate and reliable, so to use them to publically dis-credit someone based solely on them is wrong.

Who received the proceeds from the benefit concert you mentioned?

 

[Boytwnmom]

and cannot be equated with Tim Miller who is most certainly not responsible for Haleigh disappearance or demise. Focsuing on Tim Miller will certainly not lead to Haleigh. Focsuing on those others just may.

I agree, and the same applies to trashing Ron, Misty and Teresa imo, yet that's been going on since February. It's more than 8 months later and from the outside looking in, it appears no progress has been made. Looking in another direction would be a good idea imo.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Are you suggesting that Tim Miller set up this concert, had Marie and Crystal and Savannah there, and did it all only to get the money the band raised? I sure don't see it that way.

Teresa Neves set Misty up with those tests. Seems to me that everyone benefited from Tim arranging them, until he wasn't going to lie about what happened. Seems to me, Teresa should be ashamed to have set up such a charade in the first place. I mean, until that day, she was on NG extolling the virtues of her daughter-in-law.

Then, like you said before.....that whole family "forsook" her. Threw her to the curb. Tossed her homeless hiney out onto the street.

That is no one's fault but Teresa's. All Tim did was think he was helping a grieving family.

I don't know who's posts you are reading, but you quoted mine. So I take it that was a mistake, as I said nothing to even resemble the bolded part by me in your post. Have a good night.

 

[mnegri1973]

the issue in this case. The people who have clearly and repeatedly lied and refused to cooperate and those who assisted that evasion are the issues most closely related to Haleigh's disappearance. Tim Miller holds no key to finding Haleigh. IMO, he was used by certain family members to further their own agenda. The search he could offer was not the point. Everything is geared to deflect and confuse. Trashing TM will not find Haleigh, accusing TM of improper motives will not find Haleigh. I do not assess people's character and credibility in terms of isolated incidents but on the whole of their life's work. IMO, there is no comparison between Tim Miller's history and that of others close to this case. Sorry, but I can't muster an iota of sympathy for people whose concern is for LE to "move on" and leave them alone while Haleigh is missing. All of my concern is reserved for Haleigh. The rest of these people seem to do just fine on their own. Haleigh is the only one who needs someone.

I agree that TM did not create the issue of Haleigh being missing, however he is to blame for a lot of the drama that has been going on in this case for the last few months. Again this is my opinion, but he crossed over the line when he hired people to give Misty those tests, when he set up Donna to be Misty's new bff, and lastly he spouted off information that IMO should have been passed on to LE/CPS and not also shared with an internet blogger. I understand that he was asked by the family to do this, but shouldn't he have cleared this with LE as well?!?!? And sorry I just can't see LE giving TM a green light.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I wonder if all of this does end up pushing Misty to end her life (which would be horrible) what will Tim and LE do next?

Many have committed suicide by being treated with this kind of mentality. She is ganged up on. She claims to be innocent, claims to have told LE what she knows and tried to clear her name. Hopefully, someone with compassion is tending to her emotionally.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I agree mnegri.

I hope so too Kool.

For the earlier post, I also disagree that they have not cooperated with LE.

 

[Flossie JMO]

and cannot be equated with Tim Miller who is most certainly not responsible for Haleigh disappearance or demise. Focsuing on Tim Miller will certainly not lead to Haleigh. Focsuing on those others just may.

I don't think Tim abducted HaLeigh, I don't think anyone thinks that

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I don't think Tim abducted HaLeigh, I don't think anyone thinks that

exactly :crazy::crazy:

 

[cyberborg]

I agree that TM did not create the issue of Haleigh being missing, however he is to blame for a lot of the drama that has been going on in this case for the last few months. Again this is my opinion, but he crossed over the line when he hired people to give Misty those tests, when he set up Donna to be Misty's new bff, and lastly he spouted off information that IMO should have been passed on to LE/CPS and not also shared with an internet blogger. I understand that he was asked by the family to do this, but shouldn't he have cleared this with LE as well?!?!? And sorry I just can't see LE giving TM a green light.

BBM.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

TN was intimately inolved with MN and TM at this time and both requested these tests as well as coerced Misty. We heard the audio of the voice mail that TN left TM. TM went along with it because he felt that they wanted to cooperate and help him surface leads for a search to find HaLeigh.

When things did not workout as planned for the family they turned on TM in a dime, acting as double-agents with Misty and it all went public. They did a media interview where they basically contradicted everything TM had said about the testing and insinuated he was a liar. WTH!!!!

I personally agree with Miss James, I wish TM had never gotten involved with this un-deserving deceptive family (like the A's) and I do hope that he has nothing further to do with them.

That does not preclude TM returning to search for HaLeigh if there is a reliable tip, to seek justice for her but -- I would not waste my time further with them.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Who trash talked Tim? Do you have a link?

 

[Flossie JMO]

Thanks for the link. I didn't see any trash talk in the article. Is it in a video? I am using a handheld, and can't see it

 

[Donjeta]

So your saying that because there is a possibility that this is a familial abduction there is now way for Ronald or Crystal to be cleared? I disagree.

Someone....in Law Enforcement needs to come out and take a stand on something for once! And if they haven't got enough information to clear Haleigh's father or Haleigh's mother then they need to get on the ball and investigate, lie detector test, question, re-question, or do whatever it is they do to solve a case. Look, I think they have cleared Ronald and Crystal, I believe they are investigating other avenues and personally I am of the opinion that they have some very definite ideas about what happened to Haleigh.

I really hope that RC hired that private investigator. Because if LE have all this information built up against Misty and that still hasn't led them to Haleigh or an arrest, fresh eyes might do this case a bit of good. JMO

I agree that the case needs all the eyes anyone can get on it. Tim and TES, Ron's PI, everybody is welcome to look for Haleigh as far as I'm concerned.

I'm just saying that to clear someone of all involvement in a crime it is not always enough to have an alibi. There are other ways of being an accomplice, such as taking part in the planning or soliciting assistance to do the crime, helping out in the cover-up afterwards etc.. Suppose this is a family operation to get some donation money or revenge against the other parent or a hoax to cover up a negligent accident or something. How would you go about proving which people had no hand in planning it?

How would LE show that Crystal never had a conversation with anyone in which she asked them to abduct Haleigh? How would LE prove that Ron told no one that he'd be working late on Monday evening and Misty would be knocked out and the back door would be left unlocked on purpose and it would be a good time to take Haleigh now?

It is very hard to prove a negative and clear anyone 100 % if you don't know who did which crime when and why and who all might have wanted it to happen or known about it. Which is why I think the judicial system is more concerned about getting proof that someone DID something than clearing people. The former can convict people, ruling others out just aids the investigation by helping it focus on the right path.

It would be reassuring and good for the reputation of everyone involved to get LE to clear them 100% if they can't be involved in any way, but I'm not sure it'll happen until it's known which kind of crime this is.

 

[mnegri1973]

BBM.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

TN was intimately inolved with MN and TM at this time and both requested these tests as well as coerced Misty. We heard the audio of the voice mail that TN left TM. TM went along with it because he felt that they wanted to cooperate and help him surface leads for a search to find HaLeigh.

When things did not workout as planned for the family they turned on TM in a dime, acting as double-agents with Misty and it all went public. They did a media interview where they basically contradicted everything TM had said about the testing and insinuated he was a liar. WTH!!!!

I personally agree with Miss James, I wish TM had never gotten involved with this un-deserving deceptive family (like the A's) and I do hope that he has nothing further to do with them.

That does not preclude TM returning to search for HaLeigh if there is a reliable tip, to seek justice for her but -- I would not waste my time further with them.

Who was it that released the voice mail that TM received? I am unclear on that point. If it was TM, again why would he put that out to the public....that is what I do not understand? I agree that I think he got too close and too emotionally involved and in doing so has crossed that line.

I guess that the only positive outcome of the circus that TM has been involved with, along with the Cummings family, is that it has kept Haleigh in the news and people still talking about her case.

Hopefully TM will be able to back away and regain some prospective of just what this case is about, which is finding Haleigh. Because IMHO there are way too many people wanting to be head honcho and wanting to run the investigation to make themselves come out on top when it should be about finding a little girl who has been missing for 8 months.

 

[Donjeta]

Suppose that TM is right and there is something hinky going on with the immediate family. I know lots of people don't agree but for a moment, indulge me. Just theoretically, as a thought experiment.

Suppose there is something hinky going on and they are lying and asked TM to come search for Haleigh but lie to him. How and why does TM shutting up about the family hink help find Haleigh?

 

[Emeralgem]

IMHO.. Misty should be forever grateful that TM exposed the underhanded diabolical game the Cummings were attempting to run on her.. If not for TM she could have very well woke up on the other side and realized she was pushing up daiseys on this side.....JMO

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Tim Miller will be on my show Live Sun night @ 10 PM EST: www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage to discuss #haleighcummingsabout 20 hours ago from web

Levi_Page

Tim on the media circuit discussing Haleigh, heads up for those interested in listening. Wonder what we may learn beneficial to Haleigh's case?