Timeline Discussion

[cluciano63]

I'm not completely ready to call this story fabricated, although it is suspicious, if true. If she was bound and determined to get in her work-out and maybe was planning on working out with a friend at a certain time (11:30) she may have not wanted to bring the baby home in-between for fear she would not be able to her back out of the house, if baby fell asleep, for example. So she wasted the time, driving and maybe called Dede at 11:15 and said "meet me now, I am going crazy". This is all if she is innocent of course. But when assuming or suspecting she is guilty, this story sounds ludicrous.

As far as feeding her, she could have baby snacks with her and fed her, and either told LE that or didn't or it did not make it into this timeline as it happened between the 10:10-11:30 period for example.

All of this could work, if not for the rumor/info about her cell pings (that could be a rumor started by LE to try to get Terri to tell the truth-except why search SI then?)

So all in all, it may well come down to pings...hope they are very accurate and convincing and defense does not round up a bunch of people who show their phones pinging on SI while they are in rural areas.

 

[Calliope]

If she is not guilty, she is really unlucky. I mean most of us might run a bunch of errands on any given day and maybe could not work it all out until we looked at receipts, etc. but we wouldn't usually have a 90-minute gap of just driving around, for any reason. If she only did this on this one day and it happens to coincide with Kyron being gone, it is really bizarre. If she is innocent. She could have called her friend Dede to meet her at the gym, as that time seems to fit with Dede's absence as well. And maybe Dede does not want to take a polygraph, which some would see as not cooperating. I am just saying this could all be true...just bizarre, if it is.

OT a bit...

How many of us could account for every minute of our day (meaning a real alibi with unimpeachable witnesses and receipts, etc.)?

I am just sick over this; if she took Kyron at 8:45, then where was he while she was 'shopping'?

What if she caused the baby to have an earache?

I need to go to bed. This is too much.

 

[BeanE]

OT a bit...

How many of us could account for every minute of our day (meaning a real alibi with unimpeachable witnesses and receipts, etc.)?

I am just sick over this; if she took Kyron at 8:45, then where was he while she was 'shopping'?

What if she caused the baby to have an earache?

I need to go to bed. This is too much.

Where he was from 8:45 to 10:10, if she took him from the school, is critical to me. Well, it's critical to me even if someone else took him from the school while she grocery shopped. It seems more logical to me, a scenario of someone else took him from the school while she shopped, and then they met up at the 'rural road' point in the timeline.

 

[Calliope]

I guess Terri might have skipped lunch (trying to get in shape?) and if the baby was really sick she might not have had much appetite and she could have rejected whatever she was offered while on the road.

Just the motion of eating and drinking with an earache can be pretty painful. If the earache was caused by a snotty nose/URI, then she probably wouldn't want to eat anyway.

 

[SurfieTX]

I don't know if this has been asked yet, but it took her almost an hour to drive 11 miles home from the gym?

 

[Donjeta]

Where he was from 8:45 to 10:10, if she took him from the school, is critical to me. Well, it's critical to me even if someone else took him from the school while she grocery shopped. It seems more logical to me, a scenario of someone else took him from the school while she shopped, and then they met up at the 'rural road' point in the timeline.

I don't know about that... It depends on when he was last seen at school. IMO if Terri arranged for someone else to get him out of Skyline and went grocery shopping for an alibi it would have made sense for the other person to wait a bit and let Kyron tour with his group and let it be firmly established that Terri was not the last person to see him.

 

[tehcloser]

I guess what I can't get past is how anyone could have a drugged or worse child in their truck, go into grocery stores like nothing was wrong, be missing for 90 minutes (presumably disposing of the child), then go into the gym and work out like nothings wrong. We are not talking about Bundy or Manson here, how, if God forbid, the worse had happened was she able to pull that off? Wouldn't the people in the gym notice if she had been acting strange that day? Or, maybe they did and we just don't know. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

 

[For The Kids]

I guess what I can't get past is how anyone could have a drugged or worse child in their truck, go into grocery stores like nothing was wrong, be missing for 90 minutes (presumably disposing of the child), then go into the gym and work out like nothings wrong. We are not talking about Bundy or Manson here, how, if God forbid, the worse had happened was she able to pull that off? Wouldn't the people in the gym notice if she had been acting strange that day? Or, maybe they did and we just don't know. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

Look at Casey. She looked happy as Larry walking into the video shop that night and that was most probably just a few hours after killing her baby

 

[Donjeta]

I don't know if this has been asked yet, but it took her almost an hour to drive 11 miles home from the gym?

Not really?

At 11:39 a.m., Terri checked in at a 24-hour Fitness in Beaverton on Waterhouse Avenue and worked out for about an hour until 12:40 p.m.

By 1:21, Terri said she'd traveled home - a distance of nearly 11 miles - and was posting photos on Facebook she'd taken that morning of Kyron standing with his science project and of his friend, K, standing with his.

41 minutes from the gym to Facebook actually sounds like a pretty tight timeline to me particularly if it's not from parking lot to parking lot but if 12:40 is literally when she stopped working out and if you have to factor in getting a shower, getting dressed, getting baby from daycare, getting to the parking lot, loading the car and at home loading the groceries, changing the diapers, turning laptop on and waiting for the system to start (this step is optional if she always keeps it on), uploading the photos to the computer, logging on to Facebook...

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I guess what I can't get past is how anyone could have a drugged or worse child in their truck, go into grocery stores like nothing was wrong, be missing for 90 minutes (presumably disposing of the child), then go into the gym and work out like nothings wrong. We are not talking about Bundy or Manson here, how, if God forbid, the worse had happened was she able to pull that off? Wouldn't the people in the gym notice if she had been acting strange that day? Or, maybe they did and we just don't know. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

yep yep and yep!!! Maybe LE has statements from people at the gym about her behavior and demeanor.

That's why I think the deed was done and over before the 10:10 timemark. The 90 minutes of "driving around" was TH trying to get her head together. Stop the shaking, THINK THINK AND THINK, get the story straight - get her act together. Once she thought she had it together - contact friend to meet at gym and really work-out hard to pump the adrenaline back out.

I wonder if the Kelly sighting at 3 (white truck - red hair) was DeDe. If you look at the maps that "lane" is just "down the street" from the Horman house. Was she watching out? And then again at 2AM? Have to wonder what DeDe's timeline and her whereabouts at those times show.

 

[BeanE]

I guess what I can't get past is how anyone could have a drugged or worse child in their truck, go into grocery stores like nothing was wrong, be missing for 90 minutes (presumably disposing of the child), then go into the gym and work out like nothings wrong. We are not talking about Bundy or Manson here, how, if God forbid, the worse had happened was she able to pull that off? Wouldn't the people in the gym notice if she had been acting strange that day? Or, maybe they did and we just don't know. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

Not even her husband noticed anything wrong. Either she's not involved, or she's Bundy/Manson/Duncan level beyond evil. But if that's the case, you would think at her age, there would be a trail of dead people in her life.

Or... she didn't murder Kyron, but handed him off. You would think she'd still be at least a wee bit nervous or jittery or something about that.

 

[heartfortruth]

I guess what I can't get past is how anyone could have a drugged or worse child in their truck, go into grocery stores like nothing was wrong, be missing for 90 minutes (presumably disposing of the child), then go into the gym and work out like nothings wrong. We are not talking about Bundy or Manson here, how, if God forbid, the worse had happened was she able to pull that off? Wouldn't the people in the gym notice if she had been acting strange that day? Or, maybe they did and we just don't know. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

Hi , I have been reading here since this little boy went missing and am still totally confused and do not know what to believe about whom. All that I have seen / read has nudged my mind to the idea that TH is involved in some way; but as others have pointed out, we just do NOT KNOW the facts.

Speaking to your post here: if you have never read "Evidence of Love" by John Bloom it is a real eye opener about how someone who just killed another human being can "act"; one of the best true crime books ever. IMO

 

[Donjeta]

Is there a MSM statement about how happy and normal she looked while grocery shopping? (if that's even where she really went?) How do we know that she didn't look upset and nervous, angry or distraught?

 

[akashana]

Yeah, am I missing something? Does driving around soothe an earache? If it does none of the peds I took my son to told me about that, would have been nice to know. I know it soothes baby to sleep. That is an hour and a half of just driving around on rural roads, pretty big time span IMO.

MY BOLD

I have a 5 month old grandson, and have been known to take him for a little ride when he gets fussy so that he'll sleep. I also take back roads and it works like a charm. But I've never been riding around for 90 minutes! Much more like 20 or 30 minutes tops, just long enough for him to chillax enough to drop off to sleep and then it's back home and to bed. 90 minutes seems like a really long time to aimlessly drive a toddler with an earache around to soothe her, and awfully convenient for an alibi.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Not even her husband noticed anything wrong. Either she's not involved, or she's Bundy/Manson/Duncan level beyond evil. But if that's the case, you would think at her age, there would be a trail of dead people in her life.

Or... she didn't murder Kyron, but handed him off. You would think she'd still be at least a wee bit nervous or jittery or something about that.

A sociopath wouldn't get nervous or jittery because they wouldn't see that they had done anything wrong. No conscience = no jitters.

We don't really know what she's capable of doing, or what she has done in the past. Appearances are deceiving.

 

[BeanE]

Is there a MSM statement about how happy and normal she looked while grocery shopping? (if that's even where she really went?) How do we know that she didn't look upset and nervous, angry or distraught?

No reports at all of demeanor. She could have been laughing like a loon, sobbing her little heart out, or catatonic for all we know.

ETA: But... at the school and at home we have reports that she seemed just fine.

 

[Paulette]

Remember when you were a kid & had to come with a "story"? It sounded perfectly plausible to you. Then the adults tore it apart, shredded every last little bit of hope you had for getting away with your scheme. This is a child's story if ever I heard one.

 

[tehcloser]

Everyone makes great points on both sides of the "fence", which by the way I'm starting to hate lol, but there's just this big old hink bump....I can't get around it to get on either side.

 

[ThoughtFox]

No reports at all of demeanor. She could have been laughing like a loon, sobbing her little heart out, or catatonic for all we know.

ETA: But... at the school and at home we have reports that she seemed just fine.

Pardon me if I don't take the school's word for anything. They also thought Kyron went home with her, while she said walked into the classroom. Somebody just ain't too observant since the little boy is still missing.

And I don't care what her mood was that morning or that day or evening. I just want her to tell the police the truth, and this timeline doesn't ring true to me.

 

[sleuthy sleutherson]

Just stopping by to question, Hi I can prove where I was, except the 1.5 hour I was driving around on "rural" roads :waitasec:

Great timeline and alibi, she's got us there. :angel: