Timeline of residences

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

as.i recall..............( i'll look for the post(s)....they were seperated in early 2004...............then janet became pregnant.........reconciled..........kaiden born oct. 2004.....

When would Janet have become pregnant if Kaiden was born on time? December 2003? January 2004? Very close to the separation date.

I understand that Janet went back to college but the whole thing about being separated while she was in school is weird to me. I have a bunch of friends that are in school, and they go home to their spouses at the end of the day. I wonder if it was just plain difficult to get back into that married lifestyle once she graduated. When did she graduate as compared to when they separated in early 2004?

 

[golfmom]

I wonder what the true reason was for them to separate? Did Janet find out that Raven was having an affair or the financial insanity that was occuring? Or did Raven leave Janet because ... uhhhh .... because .... <insert stupid reason here> ... she was maybe restricting his freedom? Refusing to let him screw around and spend money they didn't have?

When Raven moved out, was it by himself, or with a someone?

 

[lauriej]

When would Janet have become pregnant if Kaiden was born on time? December 2003? January 2004? Very close to the separation date.

I understand that Janet went back to college but the whole thing about being separated while she was in school is weird to me. I have a bunch of friends that are in school, and they go home to their spouses at the end of the day. I wonder if it was just plain difficult to get back into that married lifestyle once she graduated. When did she graduate as compared to when they separated in early 2004?

.....from PFM's timeline :

After taking a year off to be with her husband, Raven Abaroa, she returned to SVU in August 2001 to complete her last two years. As an upperclassmen, Janet received post-season honors as a United States Collegiate Athletic Association (USCAA) Academic All-American (cumulative 3.5 GPA or higher) in 2001 & 2002. She was a member of the President's Honor Roll (4.0 GPA), USCAA Player of the Week (Oct. 1-7, 2001) and a member of the USCAA All-Tournament Team in 2002. Janet experienced great athletic accomplishment, academic success and spiritual development during her 4 years at SVU.

..so..janet graduated june 2003 ?

 

[juliagoulia]

She graduated April 2003.

 

[munch]

Ah yes, the Christmas video from Chapel Hill.....dang, another address I don't have. What I remember is that they separated in January 2004 and reconciled in March or April 2004. They most likely had separate addresses during the separation. Not sure if they had their own place or moved in with family....a friend.....girlfriend. Oh, wait, WHO did Raven live with when they were separated? Anybody know? been told?

Carrboro is the adjacent town to Chapel Hill, so the Christmas video was when they lived in Carrboro. Raven lived in Burlington, NC when they were seperated.

 

[ewwwinteresting]

1979 to 1994
Lived in numerous places in San Diego

1994 to 1998
10798 Heather Ridge Road
Sandy, Utah

Fall 1998 to August 2000
Lived at College in Buena Vista, Virginia
(attending college for 2 years, dropped out?)

August 2000 to August 2001
11138 Sunburst Lane #J
Fredericksburg, VA

1006 Jefferson Davis Hwy
Fredericksburg, VA (This address showed up for Janet, but not Raven)

Raven??
5008 Sideburn Rd
Fairfax, VA

August 2001 - April 2003 (Janet returned to school)
1 College Hill Drive
Buena Vista, VA

2003 - Janet
364 Fir Avenue
Buena Vista, VA

Raven back living with Mom and Dad in Utah?
10798 Heather Ridge Road
Sandy, Utah

2003
111 Cary St
Smithfield, Virginia 23430

September 2003 to August 2004
Carrboro, NC

January 2004 to March/April 2004 - Raven
Burlington, NC

August 2004 to April 26, 2005
2606 Ferrand Drive
Durham, NC 27705-1738

All of these are estimated dates. Any confirmed dates/addresses would be welcomed.

 

[ewwwinteresting]

Carrboro is the adjacent town to Chapel Hill, so the Christmas video was when they lived in Carrboro. Raven lived in Burlington, NC when they were seperated.

Thanks Munch! Do you know who Raven lived with? Alone, friends or ? Do you know where Janet lived while they were separated? and with who? Friends, family or ?

 

[munch]

Janet continued to live in the apartment in Carrboro alone, while Raven lived in the apartment in Burlington. I think, but am not sure, that when they got back together, she moved to Burlington to live with him. But again, i'm not 100 % sure about that. IT wasn't long after they got back together that they got the place in Durham.

 

[Moxie]

1979 to 1994
Lived in numerous places in San Diego

1994 to 1998
10798 Heather Ridge Road
Sandy, Utah

Fall 1998 to August 2000
Lived at College in Buena Vista, Virginia
(attending college for 2 years, dropped out?)

August 2000 to August 2001
11138 Sunburst Lane #J
Fredericksburg, VA

1006 Jefferson Davis Hwy
Fredericksburg, VA (This address showed up for Janet, but not Raven)

Raven??
5008 Sideburn Rd
Fairfax, VA

August 2001 - April 2003 (Janet returned to school)
1 College Hill Drive
Buena Vista, VA

2003 - Janet
364 Fir Avenue
Buena Vista, VA

Raven back living with Mom and Dad in Utah?
10798 Heather Ridge Road
Sandy, Utah

2003
111 Cary St
Smithfield, Virginia 23430

September 2003 to August 2004
Carrboro, NC

January 2004 to March/April 2004 - Raven
Burlington, NC

August 2004 to April 26, 2005
2606 Ferrand Drive
Durham, NC 27705-1738

All of these are estimated dates. Any confirmed dates/addresses would be welcomed.

Do we know if he owned any of these residences?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

So they got married in August 2000. About 13 months later, Janet went back to school in September 2001 and stayed until April 2003. (Did she come home to Raven on weekends, holidays, summer? Two years is a LONG time for a 21 year-old married couple to be apart so early into their marriage, IMO. I think it would be VERY difficult for a "good" Mormon husband to get back into appropriate married life if he enjoyed that time apart.) Then they were together for about 8 or 9 months before they separated in January 2004. Apart for (?) 3 months until April 2004? Then stayed together for the year until her death in April 2005. Seems like they spent more time apart than they did together during their marriage.

Although Raven seemed to dislike school, I wonder how he felt when Janet was offered the scholarship. Was he happy for her, envious ... ?

 

[munch]

Raven and Janet were always going to Charlotte, I think it's possible he lived there before moving to Carrboro and before working at Eurosport, maybe while working for HP...

 

[NCBanker]

I know that Raven would go to SVU on the weekends to be with Janet. He and Janet double dated with one of my cousins and his girlfriend, who both attended SVU at the time.

(Did she come home to Raven on weekends, holidays, summer? Two years is a LONG time for a 21 year-old married couple to be apart so early into their marriage, IMO. I think it would be VERY difficult for a "good" Mormon husband to get back into appropriate married life if he enjoyed that time apart.)

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I know that Raven would go to SVU on the weekends to be with Janet.

Wow. That sounds a lot more like dating than marriage. But I guess to each their own. ETA: But I don't blame Janet one bit for taking advantage of that scholarship ... I would have done the same thing.

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

Last we heard, Raven was still living with his mother Karyn, and step-father Jim Bolton, in Sandy, Utah. Now it seems the house in on the market!

Makes me wonder - Is Raven moving somewhere with his folks? Getting his own place? Moving in with someone else?


Excerpts from the For Sale By Owner listing (link follows):


Type: Single Family

Address:
10798 S Heather Ridge Dr (360 East)
Sandy, UT 84070

Financial Information

Asking Price:
$285,000
Current loan type:
Conventional

Flexibility:
Willing to negotiate




http://www.forsalebyowner.com/show-listing.php?currentlySearching=1&iListingID=20564137

 

[terminatrixator]

Nice house.

The asking price isn't quite enough to help with a Million Dollar Defense, but I'm sure every penny will help.

Does Geragos have a license to practice in North Carolina

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

Nice house.

The asking price isn't quite enough to help with a Million Dollar Defense, but I'm sure every penny will help.

Does Geragos have a license to practice in North Carolina

Ahhhh! Now, there's a thought - could Raven's folks be in a position now where they are FORCED to sell? We know Raven has unpaid property taxes in Durham County, we know after his felony conviction for embezzlement that he is supposed to make financial restitution, surely he's had some legal fees along the way.... and maybe more legal fees in the future? Could it be that they are pulling together funds to bail Raven out financially, or, preparing for the future??? Hmmmm..........

 

[terminatrixator]

Hmmm a thought, but Karyn doesn't seem like the type that would hand over her money to help her kid out that much.

She seems so much more like the upward and onward type where appearances are important and she wants to look good and maybe 3,500 sq. feet isn't enough for her.

I can't see her settling for anything less than she feels she deserves.

My guess is she wants something better or bigger, maybe so all her kids can come home to Roost and she can be The Top Hen!

 

[Jenifred]

If that house is 4 stories and 3500 square feet, I'm a monkey's uncle.

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

Hmmm a thought, but Karyn doesn't seem like the type that would hand over her money to help her kid out that much.

She seems so much more like the upward and onward type where appearances are important and she wants to look good and maybe 3,500 sq. feet isn't enough for her.

I can't see her settling for anything less than she feels she deserves.

My guess is she wants something better or bigger, maybe so all her kids can come home to Roost and she can be The Top Hen!

I see your point Term, and we've certainly gotten the impression that Karyn is all about get-rich-quick schemes, etc., but, I have to say - my impression is also that she'd probably do about anything to protect and help her kids too.

In the early days after the murder, SOMEONE had to be paying the legal bills for the embezzlement charges (as Raven wasn't working, etc.); SOMEONE had to pay for Raven's move to Utah and his various trips, etc. Granted, much has been discussed about the Trust Fund, and what monies were there, how they were spent, etc. But now, if those monies are long gone, it wouldn't surprise me one bit of the folks are having to step in and help with any legal bills, restitution payments, what have you.... And, as I said, who knows, maybe this is a proactive step towards socking away some monies in case there are any FUTURE legal bills to pay???

 

[Moxie]

I see your point Term, and we've certainly gotten the impression that Karyn is all about get-rich-quick schemes, etc., but, I have to say - my impression is also that she'd probably do about anything to protect and help her kids too.

In the early days after the murder, SOMEONE had to be paying the legal bills for the embezzlement charges (as Raven wasn't working, etc.); SOMEONE had to pay for Raven's move to Utah and his various trips, etc. Granted, much has been discussed about the Trust Fund, and what monies were there, how they were spent, etc. But now, if those monies are long gone, it wouldn't surprise me one bit of the folks are having to step in and well with any legal bills, restitution payments, what have you.... And, as I said, who knows, maybe this is a proactive step towards socking away some monies in case there are any FUTURE legal bills to pay???

I agree SES. Also, if Karyn and Jim have no assets, (i.e., a home) they cannot be held liable for any kind of settlement or monies they might have to pay, let's say perhaps in a wrongful death suit?? They wouldn't have the assets to liquidate. Question would be, why would Karyn be concerned about being held liable in that type of case?