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[OriginalJerseyGirl]

My guess is she wants something better or bigger, maybe so all her kids can come home to Roost and she can be The Top Hen!

In a 3500 sq. ft. house with 7-8 bedrooms, all of her kids could come home to roost right where she is.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

If that house is 4 stories and 3500 square feet, I'm a monkey's uncle.

It looks like a split-level so 4 stories is likely.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Two things struck me while looking at the pictures of the house.

1) In the kitchen photo, there's a towel or something on the side of the cabinet that has a rooster on it. No biggie - lots of kitchens have rooster themes. But it did make me chuckle just a bit.

2) There's a blue stroller out back of the house. I wonder if it's Kaiden's. Not that that means anything either. It just made me realize again that these are real people living this crazy nightmare. Seeing baby Kaiden's stroller sitting there felt almost surreal.

 

[ewwwinteresting]

I agree SES. Also, if Karyn and Jim have no assets, (i.e., a home) they cannot be held liable for any kind of settlement or monies they might have to pay, let's say perhaps in a wrongful death suit?? They wouldn't have the assets to liquidate. Question would be, why would Karyn be concerned about being held liable in that type of case?

This is my guess also Moxie. No real estate to attach a lawsuit judgment to. She must be worried about something:waitasec: .

I'm thinking she might be just as selfish as raven and be willing to throw him to a public defender!

 

[ewwwinteresting]

Last we heard, Raven was still living with his mother Karyn, and step-father Jim Bolton, in Sandy, Utah. Now it seems the house in on the market!

Makes me wonder - Is Raven moving somewhere with his folks? Getting his own place? Moving in with someone else?

GOOD FIND SES! You make a great sleuth!

This brings up a few questions. Why are the moving? Is Karyn and her husband getting divorced and they have to sell the house? Are they in financial trouble and can no longer afford the house? Are they moving out of Utah? Will raven be following his mommy to her new place? Maybe someone in the neighborhood that has posted here before can answer these questions.

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

GOOD FIND SES! You make a great sleuth!

This brings up a few questions. Why are the moving? Is Karyn and her husband getting divorced and they have to sell the house? Are they in financial trouble and can no longer afford the house? Are they moving out of Utah? Will raven be following his mommy to her new place? Maybe someone in the neighborhood that has posted here before can answer these questions.

This is certainly a interesting theory ewww. Could it be that Karyn's support of Raven has caused friction in the Bolton household - perhaps to the point where a divorce is in the works? Has supporting Raven caused the family to have financial woes? It's certainly not uncommon for a family to experience turmoil over dealings with a child from a previous marriage. Perhaps Jim Bolton is tired of supporting Raven financially; perhaps he and Karyn have argued over things as varied as the Trust Fund (set up in care of Jim Bolton at his credit union), Raven's guilt or innocence, and who knows what else.... Interesting things to consider for sure.

 

[RainbowsAndGumdrops]

Last time I moved I simply wanted a home with more space. People often move for more space, less space, closer to work...They may just need more space now that Raven and Kaiden live there. It could be family issues, but I tend to disagree with the money theory. I think that most people would go through the refinance or line of credit route before they just jumped out of the housing market. It is too hard to get back in.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Last time I moved I simply wanted a home with more space. People often move for more space, less space, closer to work...They may just need more space now that Raven and Kaiden live there. It could be family issues, but I tend to disagree with the money theory. I think that most people would go through the refinance or line of credit route before they just jumped out of the housing market. It is too hard to get back in.

I couldn't disagree more.

I do agree that they might be moving for any number of "normal" reasons. But that they couldn't get back into the housing market? Perhaps the market is different in Utah than it is here in the East because there's no shortage of real estate changing hands here on a constant basis. In any case, not everyone qualifies for a refinance or a line of credit either.

I don't know if you checked out that link, R&G but I don't think that they need more space now that Raven & Kaiden are living there. The house is 7-8 bedrooms. Less space - very possible; more space - no way.

 

[RainbowsAndGumdrops]

You know, I do dream of Utah housing prices! I didn't look to see that the current place is 7-8 bedrooms. Hmmmm. I guess they don't need a bigger place, do they? :waitasec:

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

You know, I do dream of Utah housing prices!

I know! I don't even know if you CAN find a 7-8 bedroom house around here, and if you could it'd probably be at least 2 times that price if not more. Amazing.

 

[Jenifred]

I know! I don't even know if you CAN find a 7-8 bedroom house around here, and if you could it'd probably be at least 2 times that price if not more. Amazing.

I know of 3500 sq ft homes that have 5 decent size bedrooms. I would bet that in a 3500 sq ft home with 8 bedrooms, some of the bedrooms would be shoebox-sized.

ETA: I still disagree with the fact that that home is 3500 sq ft. For it to be that way, there has got to be a finished attic and basement, but can split-level houses have basements?

 

[Jenifred]

Last time I moved I simply wanted a home with more space. People often move for more space, less space, closer to work...They may just need more space now that Raven and Kaiden live there. It could be family issues, but I tend to disagree with the money theory. I think that most people would go through the refinance or line of credit route before they just jumped out of the housing market. It is too hard to get back in.

But I thought we had heard that Raven is branching out on his own, getting his own place. I doubt they are moving to get more space for Raven and Kaiden.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Yeah, but 8 bedrooms is 8 bedrooms. We have 5-6 bedroom houses out here for $400,000 and up, and even some of them have shoebox-sized rooms.

The kitchen seemed to be a fairly nice size. It has two family rooms. When I compare their house to mine, they have about 1300 sq. ft. more and 3-4 bedrooms and one family room more. It seems that that would be enough space for reasonably sized rooms but I could be wrong. This is certainly not my forte. What struck me as being very odd is that all of this house sits on such a small lot - a quarter acre if I'm remembering correctly?

 

[Jenifred]

I'm trying to match the windows on the back of the house to the windows in the kitchen. Any ideas how they match up? I think the french doors to the backyard are part of the kitchen, but the bay window is on the other side of the kitchen, which validates my next point.

I don't think that kitchen is as big as it seems either. I bet you anything that the person taking that picture is taking it while standing against the far wall. Making it look like a huge kitchen.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Counting the cabinets across each wall can at least give you an idea of how big or small it might be. It also appears that there's a door on the left side of the pic next to the cabinets.

 

[Jenifred]

Oh, I hope this turns into a discussion like the one we had about the Ferrand Dr. House! LOL!!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Oh, I hope this turns into a discussion like the one we had about the Ferrand Dr. House! LOL!!

LOL! But that WAS fun in a way.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I wonder if the door on the left side of the kitchen picture is the French doors that you see on the right side of the house in the pic's of the backyard. Because the windows to the left of those doors look like they could be the windows from the kitchen.

 

[Jenifred]

I wonder if the door on the left side of the kitchen picture is the French doors that you see on the right side of the house in the pic's of the backyard. Because the windows to the left of those doors look like they could be the windows from the kitchen.

That's exactly what I think. And when you compare that to the picture of the back of the house, it really isn't as big as it seems.

And I also think that the garage and kitchen are next to one another. So, when you are looking at the picture of the back of the house, the garage would be after the french doors to the right. Any opinions on that?

 

[ewwwinteresting]

:laugh:

Oh, I hope this turns into a discussion like the one we had about the Ferrand Dr. House! LOL!!

Oh please, please can we do this again!!