TN - Cheyenne McKeehan, 3, dies after finding loaded gun, Lebanon, 7 March 2010

  • #21
Of course this is MOO but I don't believe that a three year old child picked up an unattended loaded gun (heavy/bulky/hard to pull trigger and hold at the same time) that was not secured by a saftey on a coffee table no less full within reach and "apparently" caused confusion as a game controller?

Wouldn't she point it tword the television if she handled it in confusion and secondly wouldn't it take a while for her to grasp, manipulate and pull the trigger due to the small size of her hands and to make room for dexitarity difficulties? Why did this happen and how?


IMO the child didn't do it, and if for some strange reason she was able to do it..she still didn't kill herself the negilegance and lack of saftey and concern for her well being did.
 
  • #22
Not buying it!!!!!
 
  • #23
I've never fired a gun before. Would it be very difficult for a three year old to pick one up, point it, and fire?

No, not really. When LOADED, with the SAFTY OFF, guns are very simple to fire.
 
  • #24
No way do I think a 3 year old ha the strength to hold this gun and put enough pressure on the trigger for it to go off.

JMO

A 3-year old could easily fire a single action semi-automatic like the ones pictured above. A double-action, such as a revolver, where the trigger weight is much greater to "pull the hammer back before firing" would certainly be a hard pull for a 3-year old.

So it depends upon the gun type.
 
  • #25
Just to be clear, I am NOT saying the 3-year old shot herself. But I am saying a 3-year old can fire a gun. So keep guns away from ALL children. I found it very easy for the 15 years I had too.

In this case, according to the law (at least in my sate) it does not matter whether the child shot herself or not, the parents are guilty. And I certainly agree with this.
 
  • #26
I've never fired a gun before. Would it be very difficult for a three year old to pick one up, point it, and fire?

If you really want to be scared, I have a 13-year old that shoot a rifle grouping (5-shots) within the size of an apple from 200 yards away. Of course this is at a range using a rest. Give a clear idea how accurate and dangerous certains guns can be at a great distance.

AND MY ID IS "SNIPE RACER", NOT "SNIPER ACER". :smile:
 
  • #27
yes, I agree with all other posters, the parents are to blame and should be held accountable. I also have toddlers in the house, and guns. NEVER the two will meet! Granted, I do not have any handguns, only rifles and shotguns, there is no such thing as too much saftey! My guns are kept locked up, with the ammo in a seperate location, much too impossible for a toddler to get to. I do have a 10 yr old boy who has a .22. Hes extremely accurate, much like SNIPE's boy. He was taught gun saftey young, and he will never have the key to the gunsafe. It makes me very angry that this case will turn into a gun control issue, instead of a neglect and endangerment issue.
 
  • #28
this has got to be a manslaughter charge if she did shoot herself. what idiot left a loaded gun lying on the table?
 
  • #29
I have a 380 its not big and bulky its not heavy. I can carry it in my pocket and you would not ever notice. The gun in the picture does look like it has a safety but its not hard to push it up. It is harder to put a bullet in the chamber than it is to take the safety off. Why did he leave a bullet in the chamber with it ready to shoot? Trigger is very easy to pull. If the gun was kept lock up why did he not lock it back up before going to bed or at the very least laid it on the computer desk for the wife to put when she went to bed?
 
  • #30
Sorry, if this is in an article, I didn't see it.

Is there any mention of whether they called 911 immediately, or if they waited and looked around for something similar, like the controller, that they thought would explain a three year playing with a loaded gun? Or what the response time was, would they have had time to look for something after making the call?

This whole thing just fails to ring true.
 
  • #31
  • #32
Where did you come up with this? You know accidents do happen.

This really does not qualify as an accident.First only a moron would leave a gun on a table where a toddler could get it.Second did the mother not notice it on the table on the way to her computer.Third if the child thought it was a game controller why was she shot in the stomach instead of shooting the tv.Her mom said she has played the game many times I would think she would have aimed at the tv.fourth can a child that young pull a trigger? They both should be charged in her death if you ask me if she did shoot herself it was because of their neglect at the very least.
 
  • #33
i always thought it was 'sniper racer' ;)
 
  • #34
Where did you come up with this? You know accidents do happen.


twas no accident to remove a gun from where it was supposedly kept in a locked cabinet and then leave it on a table in a room with small children in it. I dont care if there are 140 other adults in the room. you take it back to where you got it.

So either we are dealing with idiocy on a scale I honestly cannot grasp or we're dealing with a deliberate murder.


MOO of course.
 
  • #35
Sorry, if this is in an article, I didn't see it.

Is there any mention of whether they called 911 immediately, or if they waited and looked around for something similar, like the controller, that they thought would explain a three year playing with a loaded gun? Or what the response time was, would they have had time to look for something after making the call?

This whole thing just fails to ring true.


I cant seem to find anything via google news other than what the dailymail article stated. the results are something like 140 but they all quote the same source. Apparently the mom told cops the child must have mistaked it as they looked similar and the child played wii "all day long". apparently cops find that reasonable. I cant find absolutely nothing else which I dont know if I am spoiled by the anthony case or what but very frustrated at lack of info.
 
  • #36
even if it happens the way mom claims it did, leaving that gun out there where she could find it is manslaughter, criminally negigent homicide.....whatever

im no gun control advocate, but advocate gun SAFTEY. and if u have a gun in a house with small children you do NOT Leave it lying in the open, loaded, with the saftey off.
 
  • #37
Where did you come up with this? You know accidents do happen.

BBM
Absolutely NOT in the household involving children and guns! An "accident" involving a child and a gun is against the law. You will (should) go to jail.
 
  • #38
I was looking at the article from the link, and I find it odd that the picture of the three year old looks like a much younger baby. Was there not a more recent photo of the child? I just find it odd.
 
  • #39
Something is off about this story IMO. I do understand that not all stories get in the papers or on the news but it just seems kinda strange its not in any papers in the US that I can find anyway. Either way Im not buying the story that the child did it.JMO
 
  • #40
Something is off about this story IMO. I do understand that not all stories get in the papers or on the news but it just seems kinda strange its not in any papers in the US that I can find anyway. Either way Im not buying the story that the child did it.JMO

I also find this strange. You'd think it would be all over the news here, but the only reference is a British paper.
 

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