GUILTY TN - Chris Newsom, 23, & Channon Christian, 21, murdered, Knoxville, 6 Jan 2007 #20

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An interesting development in this matter is Davidson's attorney's statement that they can prove that Channon and Davidison knew each other prior to that fateful weekend. I dont recall any such evidence in the previous trial. The defense intends to again assert that Channon and Chris voluntarily showed up at the Chipman home and that Channon voluntarily has sex with Davidson. Channons father had to leave the courtroom today after the defendants attorney testified he coudl prove these allegations. My interpretation of Mr. Christian's interview later this afternoon is that he intends to file a grievance with the Tennessee Bar against Davidson's attorneys. This will be very interesting to follow.

Davidson's defense tried that in the first trial and failed. One of Davidson's druggie friends said Channon had been to the house before, but was destroyed on cross examination.

Chris Newsom had marijuana in his system but Davidson sold cocaine, not pot. People who buy drugs do it by phone and neither victim had ever called Davidson nor had he called them.

Judge Kurtz asked Davidson's attorney "why did it matter whether they came voluntarily since they were murdered?" He had no real answer. The lead prosecutor, Takisha Fitzgerald, said this was to make the victims look bad so the jury would not give Davidson the death sentence. I agree.

David In TN
 
  • #382
An interesting development in this matter is Davidson's attorney's statement that they can prove that Channon and Davidison knew each other prior to that fateful weekend. I dont recall any such evidence in the previous trial. The defense intends to again assert that Channon and Chris voluntarily showed up at the Chipman home and that Channon voluntarily has sex with Davidson. Channons father had to leave the courtroom today after the defendants attorney testified he coudl prove these allegations. My interpretation of Mr. Christian's interview later this afternoon is that he intends to file a grievance with the Tennessee Bar against Davidson's attorneys. This will be very interesting to follow.

I really don't know how Channon's dad can hold himself together with all of this bs going on.

Who in their right mind would believe this nonsense? AND, let's say it's true. Big deal. They were acquaintances. How does that excuse murder and rape? What's the logic?
 
  • #383
I really don't know how Channon's dad can hold himself together with all of this bs going on.

Who in their right mind would believe this nonsense? AND, let's say it's true. Big deal. They were acquaintances. How does that excuse murder and rape? What's the logic?

First of all, I don't know how Channon's dad holds himself together during this either. This tragic case was the stuff of your worst nightmares to begin with and the trials, Judge pill popping and potential and real retrials are just unreal. It beggars belief that all this has happened and continues to affect those families, my heart goes out to those two families.

As far as believing the nonsense goes, remember Casey Anthony? I didn't think anyone would buy what Jose Baez was selling and they did. Unfortunately it just takes one or two to have doubt in their mind.

Unfortunately, the defence's job is to get the best possible outcome for their clients. I presume their thinking is, if they can make it look like Channon and Chris were involved in the drug scene, the crime comes across as slightly less horrific than a car jacking of total strangers. I am not American, so am not au fait with US sentencing, but could it affect the DP being given by the jury? Do I think that the defence should present a theory that is not backed by evidence? No I absolutely do not. I hope the theory is anihalated on the cross, which it was last time.

I think its absolute BS that the defence has taken this stance, as IIRR didn't the ringleader admit that a car jacking took place in his police interviews? Along the lines of he was there but did not do anything. I agree with William N, this tactic is trying to make the victims look bad and it absolutely stinks.

There was never any reliable evidence to say that either Channon or Christopher had ever met their attackers before and what the evidence does support was that this was a car jacking on two innocent people. I also hate to bring this up, but from reading reports of those have been in court and seen the evidence, it suggests that Channon absolutely did not have consensual sex with the attackers, so I am absolutely disgusted that the defence is yet again trying to say this was the case.
 
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I think the state is going to try Boyd. He took the federal deal for ten years on the car jacking, but he was much more involved, IMO.

Poor Cobbins is being picked on. Well, apparently, he should have thought about that before he helped his half brother and buddies rape and kill two innocent people. I have zero sympathy or empathy for him or any of his co-defendants. VC is getting out of this entirely too easy.

JMO, IMO, :moo: , and all other disclaimers.

ETA: Boyd got 18 years for accessory to the car jacking and helping hide "Slim" Davidson. Sorry for the mistake.
 
  • #387
First of all, I don't know how Channon's dad holds himself together during this either. This tragic case was the stuff of your worst nightmares to begin with and the trials, Judge pill popping and potential and real retrials are just unreal. It beggars belief that all this has happened and continues to affect those families, my heart goes out to those two families.

As far as believing the nonsense goes, remember Casey Anthony? I didn't think anyone would buy what Jose Baez was selling and they did. Unfortunately it just takes one or two to have doubt in their mind.

Unfortunately, the defence's job is to get the best possible outcome for their clients. I presume their thinking is, if they can make it look like Channon and Chris were involved in the drug scene, the crime comes across as slightly less horrific than a car jacking of total strangers. I am not American, so am not au fait with US sentencing, but could it affect the DP being given by the jury? Do I think that the defence should present a theory that is not backed by evidence? No I absolutely do not. I hope the theory is anihalated on the cross, which it was last time.

I think its absolute BS that the defence has taken this stance, as IIRR didn't the ringleader admit that a car jacking took place in his police interviews? Along the lines of he was there but did not do anything. I agree with William N, this tactic is trying to make the victims look bad and it absolutely stinks.

There was never any reliable evidence to say that either Channon or Christopher had ever met their attackers before and what the evidence does support was that this was a car jacking on two innocent people. I also hate to bring this up, but from reading reports of those have been in court and seen the evidence, it suggests that Channon absolutely did not have consensual sex with the attackers, so I am absolutely disgusted that the defence is yet again trying to say this was the case.

I think the tactic of the defense is to say the two victims voluntarily came to the Chipman house, and Davidson had consesual sex with Channon. But it was someone else that killed them. Davidson and Cobbins have to come up with some lie as to how they got to the house and their DNA got in Channon. Remember there was also unidentified DNA found that remains unexplained. They will say those persons killed the two. It didnt work at all the first time but that doesnt mean it wont in a retrial. Remember in Coleman's initial trial several juros continued to ask questions about Daphne Sutton. Now the testimony showed she had no involvemtn but those jurors were convinced it had to be otherwise. They wanted to believe Daphne was involved and was getting off because she was white and daughter of a police officer, thus the jurors could rationalize letting Vanessa off easy. Its disgusting really.
The flip side of this type of defense is that if the jurors are not so gullible, the tactic can backfire and the jury gets angry that Davidson is claiming it was all consensual and they will definetly convict and give death.
 
  • #388
Usually, I would not say this, but Davidson deserves the DP. He obviously needs to be put down like a rabid animal. He has zero respect for the law. The brutality of these crimes is probably the worst thing I have read about, except crimes where children are killed. Davidson had a number of chances and still, he did this. I usually do not support the DP, but this is one case where it is necessary. I still feel all the defendants in this case should have a date with the needle.
 
  • #389
I think the state is going to try Boyd. He took the federal deal for ten years on the car jacking, but he was much more involved, IMO.

Poor Cobbins is being picked on. Well, apparently, he should have thought about that before he helped his half brother and buddies rape and kill two innocent people. I have zero sympathy or empathy for him or any of his co-defendants. VC is getting out of this entirely too easy.

JMO, IMO, :moo: , and all other disclaimers.

ETA: Boyd got 18 years for accessory to the car jacking and helping hide "Slim" Davidson. Sorry for the mistake.

Teri, had you heard anything about Boyd recently that sparked that comment? I hadn't heard anything. I also think he is as guilty as the others but was lucky or smart enough to no leave the evidence. I really suspect he was the one that brutalized Chris.
 
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Thanks for the update Joe. Interesting. The Judge's reasoning seems weird to me however.
 
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I think the tactic of the defense is to say the two victims voluntarily came to the Chipman house, and Davidson had consesual sex with Channon. But it was someone else that killed them. Davidson and Cobbins have to come up with some lie as to how they got to the house and their DNA got in Channon. Remember there was also unidentified DNA found that remains unexplained. They will say those persons killed the two. It didnt work at all the first time but that doesnt mean it wont in a retrial. Remember in Coleman's initial trial several juros continued to ask questions about Daphne Sutton. Now the testimony showed she had no involvemtn but those jurors were convinced it had to be otherwise. They wanted to believe Daphne was involved and was getting off because she was white and daughter of a police officer, thus the jurors could rationalize letting Vanessa off easy. Its disgusting really.
The flip side of this type of defense is that if the jurors are not so gullible, the tactic can backfire and the jury gets angry that Davidson is claiming it was all consensual and they will definetly convict and give death.

Thanks for coming back to me and explaining the tactics to me Prairie Wind, I really appreciate that.

From what I remember of the evidence, there was nothing to show that Daphne had been there, other than for a short visit. Although, after Davidson got out of the Chipman Street house, I have to wonder whether she helped him whilst he was on the run, possibly before she realised the enormity of the crimes. Although, there was no concrete evidence of this, it is just my thoughts.

Vanessa, on the other hand, knew full well what was going on and was in it right up to her neck. It burns me that she will likely get less time, second time around.

Was Davidson's fingerprint and/or DNA on the bin bags that Channon was found in - IIRR, they were? I wonder how his defense will try and spin that.

I hope that the tactic his lawyers are taking does backfire. Whilst I am a Brit and do not support Capital Punishment, even I have to admit that in Davidson's case its warranted, so I am in agreement with you there Tezi.

Teri, had you heard anything about Boyd recently that sparked that comment? I hadn't heard anything. I also think he is as guilty as the others but was lucky or smart enough to no leave the evidence. I really suspect he was the one that brutalized Chris.

BIB: I also think that he was more involved and like you, also think he brutalized Chris.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/jan/16/judge-denies-new-trials-for-davidson-and-cobbins/

Davidson and Cobbins won't get new trial, Thomas will, so the families have to sit through yet another trial

Thank you for the update.

Oh no! I can't believe that the families have got to go this yet again. Furthermore, this case is the weakest of the male perps to have to try. I hope the jurors on this coming trial will be as clued up as they were the first time Thomas was tried.
 
  • #393
Kurtz ruled Tuesday that because there was DNA evidence implicating Davidson and Cobbins in the torture slayings, witness credibility was not an overriding issue and he could, therefore, serve as 13th juror. He affirmed the jury's decision to sentence Davidson to death and Cobbins to life without parole in the kidnapping, rapes and torture of the young couple.

However, Kurtz opined that because there was no forensic proof against Thomas, Kurtz could not affirm the guilty verdicts and sentence of life without parole in Thomas' case without having viewed the testimony of witnesses.

From Joe's link, above.
 
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Isn't Vanessa Coleman's re-sentenceing happening on 1st February?
I may be wrong, but at the end of her second trial I was sure that was the date set for sentencing?
 
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Interesting. I particularly like the part about how she is ready for a positive change in her life. So she admits to having a great childhood and good parents. Then assists in the brutal torture/rape/murder of a couple. Then she is ready for a positive change.
In some ways her story is the most tragic and aggravating of the defendants. She had a good childhood and could have had a wonderful life. Yet she chose to throw it away by wanting to live the "🤬🤬🤬🤬 life." Well, she has to accept responsibilty for where that ultimately led her.
 
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Interesting. I particularly like the part about how she is ready for a positive change in her life. So she admits to having a great childhood and good parents. Then assists in the brutal torture/rape/murder of a couple. Then she is ready for a positive change.
In some ways her story is the most tragic and aggravating of the defendants. She had a good childhood and could have had a wonderful life. Yet she chose to throw it away by wanting to live the "🤬🤬🤬🤬 life." Well, she has to accept responsibilty for where that ultimately led her.

ITA with you Prairie Wind.

I know the defence have to plead for the minimum sentence, but really?:

"Coleman was in the wrong place at the wrong time," the report quoted the defenders as saying. "Due to her youth and inexperience in life, she trusted the wrong people and ended up in a situation she did not know how to escape from. … Her fear of these men was justified."
(from Joe Jones link)

She was right where she wanted to be! She could have gone and turned them in at any time! She even held Channon captive on her own, when the guys went out, she could have saved her life! There was never any proof she was under duress and let us not forget her "Adventure in the big TN" diary entry she made! :furious:

Furthermore, I see no evidence of her new, mature attitude in her recent trial. She seemed to come across as the same Vanessa Coleman we saw the first time round! :furious:

I feel for her parents, they seem like decent people - but their daughter made her choices.

I am hoping that Judge Blackwood gives her a lengthy sentence. But, given some of his decisions involving these cases I am not holding my breath.

I apologise for my ranting, but Channon and Christopher's murders are probably one of the worst cases I have ever heard about.

As always my total sympathies lie with the Newsom and Christian families and friends.
 
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Did she get 41 years? 25 + 6 + 6 + 4 consecutive?
 
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Sorry for the repeated posts, but Vanessa Coleman just sentenced:

43 Years

As per Jamie Satterfield's tweets from the Court Room.

https://twitter.com/jamiescoop
 

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