Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

[steeltowngirl]

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Now we add the vicinity of Pine Hill Community Center into the locations mix.
973 Alice Ave, Memphis, TN 38106

 

[kspoon45]

I was wondering the same. Is there a lake or pond nearby?

I'm curious, too. After abducting her, he's going to start battling daylight and people waking up but there's a (what feels like) huge gap of time between the abduction and when he's home washing up. If he had his phone with him, it would make sense that police are able to determine where he spent the majority of that time - 4 minutes after the abduction, 20 minutes to his brother's. There's still a lot of unknown time there.

 

[EmmieA]

There were pictures, so I doubt its a false report. He could have been found in a doorway, then ran to his vehicle, tried to drive off when he was pinned by the ATF vehicle.

True. I looked back at the affidavit and it mentions the car had “noticeable damage to the rear passenger side taillight” before he was apprehended so I guess it’s not clear if the damage seen in the pictures yesterday was prior damage or damage from the supposed collision with ATF vehicle.

Edited to add: The affidavit also says he was apprehended while in the car so it seems an accident while trying to flee makes a lot of sense, thanks @idrinkandknowthings

 

[NeverPersonal]

I'm curious, too. After abducting her, he's going to start battling daylight and people waking up but there's a (what feels like) huge gap of time between the abduction and when he's home washing up. If he had his phone with him, it would make sense that police are able to determine where he spent the majority of that time - 4 minutes after the abduction, 20 minutes to his brother's. There's still a lot of unknown time there.

There's a park right next to the center (Pine Hill Park) then Nonconnah Creek nearby

 

[Jmoose]

Kemper was a millions times better of a human being than the vile human who took him. The fact he was released and able to do this again is sickening.

Thanks for finding and posting this

 

[justme11]

Pine Hill Community Center

Pine Hill Community Center · 973 Alice Ave, Memphis, TN 38106

★★★★★ · Community center

maps.app.goo.gl

Pine Hill... public golf course which is temporarily closed. I see water on the 18th.

Pine Hill

Pine Hill Book A Tee Time 930 East Mallory Ave, Memphis, TN 38106901-636-0707 / Clubhouse Main lineFacility Manager: Will KeysEmail: Will KeysGolf shop, Snack Bar, Practice Area, LessonsGreat location near downtownMemphis rolling terrain with...

memphispubliclinks.com

 

[Peppery]

Maybe his employer cleaned the school she worked at?

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1566487399793827843

 

[vaporlass]

Very Barry Morphew-esque. Sounds like he was panicking a bit, so clear thinking wasn't his forte. In terms of the what the brother/female observed - he probably knew his goose was cooked, the shoes being left behind were going to be a BIG problem.

Did he have any social media?

Ugh BM’s name leaves a bad taste in my mouth… as for CA I wonder how much he even knew about DNA and forensics after being locked up for so long? If inmates were talking about it, I don’t think he listened.
He didn’t look for cameras, he left his shoes and IMO he could have been washing his clothes and cleaning the vehicle just to clean them, not necessarily with thoughts of cleaning up evidence. He had to go to that location to return vehicle that he borrowed?
He’s either one of the dumbest criminals or a total narcissist who believes he can get away with it. Which doesn’t make sense when he was just arrested in June 2022 for theft OVER $10k. A downright crime that they didn’t keep him.

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[Mrs Shibbles]

Pine Hill... public golf course which is temporarily closed. I see water on the 18th.

Pine Hill

Pine Hill Book A Tee Time 930 East Mallory Ave, Memphis, TN 38106901-636-0707 / Clubhouse Main lineFacility Manager: Will KeysEmail: Will KeysGolf shop, Snack Bar, Practice Area, LessonsGreat location near downtownMemphis rolling terrain with...

memphispubliclinks.com

My eyes were drawn to that cane creek on the map.

 

[Gardenista]

Anyone local know where this is? They have their boat and ATVs trailered and ready.

This is what Google told me: Pine Hill Community Center, 973 Alice Ave, Memphis, TN 38106

 

[Knox]

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Rosewood, is not far from McDonalds, assuming that that's the one they were searching the dumpster last night?
Alice Avenue to Rosewood Avenue

Correcting map to include both Alice and Rosewood Avenue(s).

 

[shefner]

Sure, violence has been around since the beginning of time. Cain and Abel, and yada, yada, yada.
The issue for me is, I'm seeing more of it. And I'm sick and tired of it.
It is maddening to see mothers senselessly ripped away from their babies. And I just need to express that somewhere. And this seems like a compassionate place.

 

[chihuahua]

I really hope LE is at the new location after following the vehicle GPS and/or cell signals that shows where he may have left her. I do not think he will give up her location voluntarily. Her family needs answers. ETA: I am curious as to where this is located…Memphis proper, Shelby County or another surrounding county.

Pine Hill Community Center is in Memphis.

https://www.mapquest.com/us/tennessee/pine-hill-community-center-5210337

This seems to be the latest location they are searching. This is a very sketchy area of town.
Hoping the vehicle GPS or his phone records led them there.
Still praying she's safe some where, but prepared for the worse outcome, considering there was an altercation and apparently from news reports already mentioned, blood. Oh how I want answers for her family. I don't want the ones it seems we are going to get.
Chi in Memphis

 

[Researchgirl]

Pine Hill Community Center

Pine Hill Community Center · 973 Alice Ave, Memphis, TN 38106

★★★★★ · Community center

maps.app.goo.gl

About 4 miles from the abduction site it looks like. Ugh

 

[Deleted member 718]

Pine Hill Community Center

Pine Hill Community Center · 973 Alice Ave, Memphis, TN 38106

★★★★★ · Community center

maps.app.goo.gl

From the Pine Hill Community Center to Lakes at Ridgeway apartments. Pine Hill is closer to the abduction site.

5995 Waterstone Oak Way to Pine Hill Community Center

www.google.com

 

[FLmom777]

Here’s his Facebook Log in or sign up to view

How was he able to post on Facebook while still in jail?

 

[vaporlass]

Does Tennessee have capital punishment?

“We will pause scheduled executions through the end of 2022 in order to allow for the review and corrective action to be put in place.” A 2021 investigation by The Guardian revealed that Tennessee secretly spent large sums of money on execution drugs.May 3, 2022

 

[LucyRocket]

I don’t know if anyone noticed this. I found it some time ago, but was waiting for an approved article. Mike Keeney (Liza’s uncle who spoke on behalf of the family) and Kemper Durand (the victim of the 2000 kidnapping) worked for the same law firm.

Not likely to be anything significant in that, just made me think it’s probably a lot smaller community than I’d imagined

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[crhedBngr]

Did I read in Thread #1 that another woman was being tailed in this area within the last week or so?

JMVHO.