Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #3

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  • #81
I hate to ask this but would they even need her body to charge him with murder? They have his car and if they can prove there was blood from Eliza there, would that be enough to charge him?

There have been many ‘no body’ murder convictions.

IF they have video that shows him attacking her, a stranger, and dragging her into his vehicle, (video is probably not clear enough to prove it’s he, but the DNA on the slides left at the scene is evidently his.)

AND IF they have her blood in his vehicle, showing that violence was done to her

AND if there is no evidence of her existing, a woman who lived a stable life, from that moment forward

ADD to that as time passes, IF there is no activity on her Social Security number, no activity on her bank account(s),

THEN I think they could charge him with murder. I don’t think they’d go for the death penalty in a no-body case, unless they had overwhelming physical evidence of her death. (Enough blood that it’s obviously that she could not have survived. I doubt that they have that, though.)

MOO
 
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This poor girl just wanted to go for a damn run….
 
  • #85
Not bad wages, especially for a felon who could find it difficult to find employment if he had to go thru a background check.

I wonder if the cleaning company does background checks on their hires.
 
  • #86
For her family's sake, the sooner she's found, the better. This has to be pure agony for them. :(


I hope they know a lot more than us about if they think she is likely deceased or holed up somewhere.
 
  • #87
There have been many ‘no body’ murder convictions.

IF they have video that shows him attacking her, a stranger, and dragging her into his vehicle, (video is probably not clear enough to prove it’s he, but the DNA on the slides left at the scene is evidently his.)

AND IF they have her blood in his vehicle, showing that violence was done to her

AND if there is no evidence of her existing, a woman who lived a stable life, from that moment forward

ADD to that as time passes, IF there is no activity on her Social Security number, no activity on her bank account(s),

THEN I think they could charge him with murder. I don’t think they’d go for the death penalty in a no-body case, unless they had overwhelming physical evidence of her death. (Enough blood that it’s obviously that she could not have survived. I doubt that they have that, though.)

MOO
I'm not even a little bit worried about it even coming to that. We're not only dealing with an idiot, but an idiot who had little time to work with. I think there's just no way he concealed her body well.
 
  • #88
I hope the intense search won't take as long as that of Brian Laundrie (Gabby Petito case) before Eliza is located.
 
  • #89
I hate to ask this but would they even need her body to charge him with murder? They have his car and if they can prove there was blood from Eliza there, would that be enough to charge him?
It’s possible, depending on the amount of blood and if there were other tissues in the car. For example only, if a person is shot you might expect to find bone fragments or other tissue at the scene. In Kelsey Berreth’s murder LE found brain matter along with a tooth and bone fragments leaving zero possibility she was live. Moo
 
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I wonder if the cleaning company that CA worked for gave information to LE about the locations where CA was working.
 
  • #91
I came across this article today naming runners who have been murdered while running. While I recognized many of the more recent cases (Karina Vetrano, Vanessa Marcotte, Ally Brueger and Mollie Tibbetts), I was disheartened at how long the list is. My heart goes out to Eliza Fletcher and her family.
 
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I wonder if the cleaning company does background checks on their hires.
I would assume so; too much of a liability with them being around people's personal things, however if he just cleaned bathrooms in a commercial building, there isn't much to steal.
 
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I'm not even a little bit worried about it even coming to that. We're not only dealing with an idiot, but an idiot who had little time to work with. I think there's just no way he concealed her body well.
And probably shoeless
 
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It’s possible, depending on the amount of blood and if there were other tissues in the car. For example only, if a person is shot you might expect to find bone fragments or other tissue at the scene. In Kelsey Berreth’s murder LE found brain matter along with a tooth and bone fragments leaving zero possibility she was live. Moo
Also, it was a black SUV so likely had a darker interior so even though he was cleaning, it's likely he didn't clean it all up.
 
  • #96
I'm not even a little bit worried about it even coming to that. We're not only dealing with an idiot, but an idiot who had little time to work with. I think there's just no way he concealed her body well.

I agree with you. However, I’ve never been in that part of the country—I’m a trace worried about the Mississippi River. I don’t know if that’s at all a realistic concern.
 
  • #97
I wonder if the cleaning company does background checks on their hires.
In a growing number of US jurisdictions, "Ban the Box" laws often prohibit an employer from asking about arrests or criminal convictions. And often an employer cannot use a potential hire's prior criminal record as a prejudice.
 
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I wonder if the cleaning company that CA worked for gave information to LE about the locations where CA was working.
I’d guess yes. And if they refused, I think that would be information LE could get a warrant for. I personally don’t think she’s at any of the locations he may have worked.
 
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I would assume so; too much of a liability with them being around people's personal things, however if he just cleaned bathrooms in a commercial building, there isn't much to steal.
They should background check for violent offenses because co-workers should be protected too.
 
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