Found Deceased TN - Evelyn Boswell, 15 months, Sullivan County, 26 DEC 2019 *MOM ARRESTED* #5

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  • #221
absolute best case scenario


evelyn was brokered in a private adoption, cash in hand and given a new identity.

if this was the case she would have been with her new family for close to 2 months in which time i have no doubt the new parents would have bonded deeply with her.
Now imagine that at the time of the adoption these people were not aware for the origins of this child, i wonder if they would willingly come forward with the baby if her new identity has not been questioned, from their perspective this child was unwanted by her mother and is now in a loving and probably financially stable home so even if they suspect the child is actually Evelyn why would they come forward risking charges for an illegal adoption and losing the child the have come to see as their own at this point.

i do not see a couple who willing chose to take such steps to obtain a child would necessarily come forward to protect the Boswell women and if a broker was involved then it is possible that MB and AB do not know who that family is.

Perhaps the BMW was supposed to be AB's cut of the money but when Snr alerted authorities MB could not use the money to pay for the car as it would raise questions as to how she obtained that kind of cash


I know its a long shot and more than likely this child has been lost to everyone but i want to hope and believe that Evelyn is alive.

I hope this is the case, but I don’t think any of them would have someone smart enough in their circle to obtain a new identity for Evelyn.
 
  • #222
I can’t stand this guy.

I also don’t watch any youtube channels that only special paid members can see certain content. Not doing it. They get paid via ads etc. My views should be enough
I am also not a fan, drones on and on and drags things out. Have trouble watching entire thing!
 
  • #223
absolute best case scenario


evelyn was brokered in a private adoption, cash in hand and given a new identity.

if this was the case she would have been with her new family for close to 2 months in which time i have no doubt the new parents would have bonded deeply with her.
Now imagine that at the time of the adoption these people were not aware for the origins of this child, i wonder if they would willingly come forward with the baby if her new identity has not been questioned, from their perspective this child was unwanted by her mother and is now in a loving and probably financially stable home so even if they suspect the child is actually Evelyn why would they come forward risking charges for an illegal adoption and losing the child the have come to see as their own at this point.

i do not see a couple who willing chose to take such steps to obtain a child would necessarily come forward to protect the Boswell women and if a broker was involved then it is possible that MB and AB do not know who that family is.

Perhaps the BMW was supposed to be AB's cut of the money but when Snr alerted authorities MB could not use the money to pay for the car as it would raise questions as to how she obtained that kind of cash


I know its a long shot and more than likely this child has been lost to everyone but i want to hope and believe that Evelyn is alive.

I’m sure it happens and I always assume people are smarter than they are but I can’t imagine anyone forking over any amount of money without the mother officially relinquishing parental rights. If you don’t, at any point the mom could cry and get the baby back and you’re out of the money.

Also I think Evelyn would be too old- with a newborn you could claim a home birth and try to get a birth certificate and SSN but 15 months later I don’t know how that’d work.
 
  • #224
absolute best case scenario


evelyn was brokered in a private adoption, cash in hand and given a new identity.

if this was the case she would have been with her new family for close to 2 months in which time i have no doubt the new parents would have bonded deeply with her.
Now imagine that at the time of the adoption these people were not aware for the origins of this child, i wonder if they would willingly come forward with the baby if her new identity has not been questioned, from their perspective this child was unwanted by her mother and is now in a loving and probably financially stable home so even if they suspect the child is actually Evelyn why would they come forward risking charges for an illegal adoption and losing the child the have come to see as their own at this point.

i do not see a couple who willing chose to take such steps to obtain a child would necessarily come forward to protect the Boswell women and if a broker was involved then it is possible that MB and AB do not know who that family is.

Perhaps the BMW was supposed to be AB's cut of the money but when Snr alerted authorities MB could not use the money to pay for the car as it would raise questions as to how she obtained that kind of cash


I know its a long shot and more than likely this child has been lost to everyone but i want to hope and believe that Evelyn is alive.

Private adoptions wouldn’t result in new identities. Maybe a new name, but it would all be traceable and official. What you’re describing sounds more like illegally selling a baby.

“Not aware of the origins” doesn’t really fit with the rest of your theory, IMO. Maybe they wouldn’t know where the baby came from but you’re talking about someone (or a couple) essentially buying a baby on the black market. What would the origin of a baby on the black market be if not kidnapping or something similarly illicit?

And I know adoption takes a long time, but you’d also have to wonder why this hypothetical person or couple couldn’t adopt legally. What are the reasons people buy babies through illegal channels?

But, all I know about this case is that I know nothing. I could be wrong about this, and I’m sure I’ll be wrong about a million more things before it’s all said and done lol
 
  • #225
rivate adoptions wouldn’t result in new identities. Maybe a new name

i am a private adoption not in the usa though and i have an original name and birth certificate that iv never seen

iv gone to births deaths and marriages before and they almost gave me my original by mistake then they asked if i was adopted and i said yes and they shredded the one they had made and gave me my current one

iv never bothered actually applying for my original it means nothing to me
 
  • #226
People take this guy seriously?

If you enjoy watching youtube videos that are 3x the necessary length, that's the channel for you! :p

I noticed his videos were often linked/mentioned here on websleuths and that many members were fans, so I watched and really tried to like his channel, but I just couldnt handle 10-15 minutes worth of information being painfully stretched out to be hour long videos.
 
  • #227
Very rarely. Most have admins monitoring them and working hard to keep things from going this far south, especially the ones that are a “core” group that make other sub groups for the different cases. They are a lot like WS, in that it’s a lot of the same members on each case, all the same admins, all the same rules. The issue here is the size of the groups paired with them being free for all/anything goes.

Cant sleep tonight, think I’m coming down with the crud that I’ve been fortunate to avoid this cold/flu season. This weather isn’t helping matters at all...

But I think you’ve hit this one perfectly. Typically you will see some people take the mantle of administrator pretty early on and the community becomes self-regulating within the confines of the rules of the community. In this case, things started on social media as soon as things broke. Then you had the circus of MB on social media which not only brought more people in to watch but also inflamed this beyond description. Couple all that with there not being much news and a lot of drama, you’ve got the perfect storm of emotions and drama-seeking that’s making these groups so toxic. So far there doesn’t seem to be much hope that they will self-police. I think the only thing that reverses this is LE providing updates and some breaks start to occur in the case.
 
  • #228
People take this guy seriously?
I’ve only tried watching him once for about three minutes. It was last summer when the Canadian Manhunt for BS and KM was in full swing. He said he had breaking news, then spent the first few minutes of his video repeatedly getting up to check if his pizza had been delivered yet. Pure nonsense. I turned him off and will not waste my time again.
 
  • #229
If you enjoy watching youtube videos that are 3x the necessary length, that's the channel for you! :p

I noticed his videos were often linked/mentioned here on websleuths and that many members were fans, so I watched and really tried to like his channel, but I just couldnt handle 10-15 minutes worth of information being painfully stretched out to be hour long videos.

Agree with you 100%. It’s torture- I couldn’t make it past the intro and all the fiddling around doing nothing.
 
  • #230
If you get parents to lie you can adopt children in an illegal way.
 
  • #231
I hope this is the case, but I don’t think any of them would have someone smart enough in their circle to obtain a new identity for Evelyn.
IMO, they wouldn't need a necessarily "smart" person, just a very seasoned criminal. Which, IMO, they are surrounded by those....:oops:
 
  • #232
absolute best case scenario


evelyn was brokered in a private adoption, cash in hand and given a new identity.

if this was the case she would have been with her new family for close to 2 months in which time i have no doubt the new parents would have bonded deeply with her.
Now imagine that at the time of the adoption these people were not aware for the origins of this child, i wonder if they would willingly come forward with the baby if her new identity has not been questioned, from their perspective this child was unwanted by her mother and is now in a loving and probably financially stable home so even if they suspect the child is actually Evelyn why would they come forward risking charges for an illegal adoption and losing the child the have come to see as their own at this point.

i do not see a couple who willing chose to take such steps to obtain a child would necessarily come forward to protect the Boswell women and if a broker was involved then it is possible that MB and AB do not know who that family is.

Perhaps the BMW was supposed to be AB's cut of the money but when Snr alerted authorities MB could not use the money to pay for the car as it would raise questions as to how she obtained that kind of cash


I know its a long shot and more than likely this child has been lost to everyone but i want to hope and believe that Evelyn is alive.
This would be a great outcome! But I would think they would still come forward, risking whatever charges they would face. MOO
 
  • #233
Timmothy Pitzen
Lisa Irwin
DeOrr Kunz
Madeleine McCann
Kyron Horman ...

I know everyone here recognizes those names. Just a teeny sample of the incredible number of children who have gone missing and have never been found.

In most cases of missing kids the parents or other caregivers report the disappearance immediately. In this case, no one bothered to report EB as missing for at least two months. And even then it wasn’t her primary caregiver. By then the trail was already cold.

They had 2+ months to dispose of that baby in whatever way they chose. No one in the family seems to care and that may be in part because they didn’t really know Evelyn. Or they are just so dysfunctional that everyone is a throwaway.

I want to hold out hope that she is still alive but it becomes harder every day — they would have produced her by now.

I personally don’t think she will be found unless someone decides to talk. I doubt the main players will be inclined to do that.

MOO
 
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  • #234
Timmothy Pitzen
Lisa Irwin
DeOrr Kunz
Madeleine McCann
Kyron Horman ...

I know everyone here recognizes those names. Just a teeny sample of the incredible number of children who have gone missing and have never been found.

In most cases of missing kids the parents or other caregivers report the disappearance immediately. In this case, no one bothered to report EB as missing for at least two months. And even then it wasn’t her primary caregiver. By then the trail was already cold.

They had 2+ months to dispose of that baby in whatever way they chose. No one in the family seems to care and that may be in part because they didn’t really know Evelyn. Or they are just so dysfunctional that everyone is a throwaway.

I want to hold out hope that she is still alive but it becomes harder every day — they would have produced her by now.

I personally don’t think she will be found unless someone decides to talk. I doubt the main players will be inclined to do that.

MOO

I'm not one of those people who thinks we need to create a new law to address every single social ill , but I do support passing a law that would hold legal guardians responsible for not reporting a child missing within a 3-7 day period. We know that in many cases of murdered (or still unrecovered) children, the longer someone can get away with concealing a body, the better it is for them in terms of being arrested or convicted. We only have to look at the Caylee Anthony and Zahra Baker cases (just to name a few) to see how true that is. In Zahra's case, her father wasn't held accountable AT ALL, despite the fact that he lived in the same house with her and hadn't seen her alive and well in weeks. I mean...WTF ?!

Anyway, just a random Sunday morning thought.
 
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  • #235
If you enjoy watching youtube videos that are 3x the necessary length, that's the channel for you! :p

I noticed his videos were often linked/mentioned here on websleuths and that many members were fans, so I watched and really tried to like his channel, but I just couldnt handle 10-15 minutes worth of information being painfully stretched out to be hour long videos.
Apparently he is a member here and that's why his videos are allowed. I can't bring myself to watch him, though. What was the rumor he was talking about? That Evelyn was given away or something about the false sighting in the restaurant?
 
  • #236
Apparently he is a member here and that's why his videos are allowed. I can't bring myself to watch him, though. What was the rumor he was talking about? That Evelyn was given away or something about the false sighting in the restaurant?

I believe it is farther up on the thread. I didn’t see it but the post in this thread basically said there is a rumor that EB may have been found alive but they were checking DNA to make sure it was her.

Look back a few pages and you will see the info. After it had been posted on SM for a while, the TBI updated its info reinforcing that there are no current verifiable leads. The social media post was removed.

This link goes to a news station that reported the update and includes a screenshot of the actual TBI news release. For those who do not use Facebook.

TBI: Still no credible sightings of Evelyn Boswell
 
  • #237
Since it's a slow Sunday morning in here...

I'd like to remind everyone that we could really use your time and energy on some of our cold cases. Each and every one of us can, and should, adopt at least one cold case to follow and keep drawing attention to. Additionally, we have many UIDs who need to have their identity restored to them. We have some fantastic new posters who have come here for Evelyn. I hope you guys decide to stick around and help us with some of these other cases ! We need you desperately. :)

Missing Persons Discussion

Missing but not forgotten Discussion

Cold Cases

The Unidentified

LISK Unidentified Victims (added because this case is particularly close to my heart )
 
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  • #238
what's kinda sad to me is that Evelyn is starting to drop from news pages or get pushed really far down the pages

i am sure if news breaks it'll be back up the top but i hate when this happens because if no news breaks this is the start of the fade that happens in these cases ugh

WCYB still has quite a good presence for Evelyn though
 
  • #239
I am still lost about the styrofoam thing. Evelyn apparently had a pack n play from photos, the bottoms have afoam pad.. idk just didn't sleep well and I have been thinking so much. Where is her pack n play I wonder....
 
  • #240
what's kinda sad to me is that Evelyn is starting to drop from news pages or get pushed really far down the pages

i am sure if news breaks it'll be back up the top but i hate when this happens because if no news breaks this is the start of the fade that happens in these cases ugh

WCYB still has quite a good presence for Evelyn though
I wish her family cared more... hell at all, that would be most helpful I think.
 
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