TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #11

[not_my_kids]

I'm confused about this whole AMBER Alert thing. There was never an official AMBER Alert issued for Holly. The NCMEC never had any AMBER Alert for her. Just because a MSM news source says "AMBER Alert", doesn't mean it's true. I think we're over-scrutinizing that point.

Also, although NCMEC typically works on cases of kids under 18, they do have a special statute that mandates they also take cases of "minors" under age 21. This is NOT uncommon. The following is on Holly's poster:

"SPECIAL NOTE: This case was initiated pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 5779. The individual pictured on this poster was reported missing when he or she was between the ages of 18 and 20. Law enforcement has entered this case in the FBI National Crime Information Center database and has asked NCMEC to disseminate this poster."

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...seNum=1170175&orgPrefix=NCMA&searchLang=en_US


(The above is posted as just a normal poster and not a moderator. So take it FWIW. )

On behalf of Perry County, Sheriff Tommy Hickerson committed resources to the Decatur County Sheriffs Office Task Force to assist in the Amber Alert on Ms. Holly Bobo.
Chief Deputy Nick Weems and Deputy/Investigators Rodd Spaid, Chris Hickerson, and George Dittfurth were assigned to assist in the case.
Deputy Sheriffs Rich Weatherly and Bob Dillingham volunteered their time and also joined the team looking for Holly.
Additionally, Marlie, Perry County’s tracking bloodhound, was paired with Deputy Dittfurth who is a recognized expert in a number of law enforcement specialties which include human and fugitive tracking.
Sheriff Hickerson said that Amber Alert in Tennessee is run by the TBI and is a voluntary partnership between law enforcement agencies, citizens, and the news media that issue alerts and update bulletins to Tennessee citizens. An Amber Alert puts everyone on the lookout for missing victims.
He added that an Amber Alert results in investigative and manpower priority being committed to the goal of finding the abducted minor. The effort is coordinated through the TBI’s Criminal Intelligence Unit.
http://www.buffaloriverreview.com/content.aspx?module=ContentItem&ID=206332&MemberID=1257

But LE seems to confirm that it was issued. Although I am not finding proof that it ever actually was. News site after news site reports it was, but there is nothing on the amber alert site.
And even here, something is fishy. "Between the ages of 18 and 20"...she isn't she was over 20, since her birthday was passed.

 

[10EC_Dad]

I think all of the missing should get this much coverage. In this case, I think it is super. More is better. Somtimes I think its natural to begrudge the missing people that do get the attention. But if you or I went missing boy we or our families would sure want it. There are probably a lot of factors involved in who may/may not get coverage. Im not sure I buy the "pretty blonde woman" complaints, because I have seen a lot of coverage on some hispanic and black victims (Mitrice Richards). Ultimately I think its probably a combination of things... nature of the crime. Somone just vanishing and no one reporting them missing for a week or two doesn't have a big media punch. And lots of people do just disappear for various (non criminal) reasons. * In this case I think Holly's community involvement has helped. Its rare to see EVERYONE pitch in like this. Some missing people may be somehow less attractive to the media too. A missing mental person that was drunk or a suspected drug addict doesn't make a great TV splash. Occupation may have something to do wtih it too, for the same reasons. A missing dancer or stripper doesnt quite have the same punch as a missing nursing student or a girl who vanished on her way to school to buy a lamb for 4H. Not saying thats right... but thats probably a factor to some degree for national coverage.

* an older frind of mine retired, sold his business and moved out of the state. His two sisters came around looking for him and were shocked he was gone. He didn't tell them he was retiring, closing shop, sold the family house, etc. They hadn't SEEN him in a while but talked to him regularly. Just when they actually went to his house he was GONE, and probably for 6 months.

So much is driven by the media. In this case, you have a pretty young lady that belongs to family many can relate to. The local community has stepped up in an AMAZING way. That helps drive the story.

The attention on this case does not lessen the efforts of LE on other cases IMHO.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

OK, there were posts early on about the geocache at the cave, did someone end up reporting that to LE? NOT because the person is a suspect, but they were ALL over Decatur county on the 13th, including old Rt 69, Natchez Trace Park, and everywhere in between. That's not unusual at all for a cacher with his numbers to do, but it does mean he might be an unknowing witness.

About geocaching ~ http://www.geocaching.com/

Darn, I learn something new almost everyday at WS!!!

 

[SNOWINMEMPHIS]

Has anyone checked Robert William Fishers current status?

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten

He seems to be a traveler.
Just a thought.

Bingo!!!
He is just who I have in mind.
He killed his wife and kids.
He is intelligent and has quite a bit of medical knowledge.
He also worked as a firefighter/EMT so he knows how LE works these cases.
Look how long this survivalist has been missing!!
I think someone just like this has Holly and this man fits my profile to a T.
Older than most seem to be thinking. Also has a military background.
Never got over his mother divorcing his father and blamed her for a lot of the confusion in his life.
JMO and thinks for mentioning him. I wasn't sure if I should.

 

[Cubbies2010]

This is true... i totally agree .....

But..... what if his version isnt the truth? Thats a what if!!!!!
He is the last person to see her. You know what they say about the last person to see a missing person LOL

I just dont understand why they dont come out and say the family and the bf took a poly and clear them unless they took the test and didnt do so well.

Im at a totAL loss here JMOO

Maybe they want the perp to think the brother and BF are both still under a cloud of suspicion. If he thinks they are still looking at family and friends, he may think he has a little breathing room...and he may slip up somehow.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

This is true... i totally agree .....

But..... what if his version isnt the truth? Thats a what if!!!!!
He is the last person to see her. You know what they say about the last person to see a missing person LOL

I just dont understand why they dont come out and say the family and the bf took a poly and clear them unless they took the test and didnt do so well.

Im at a totAL loss here JMOO

:fence: well the family spokesperson cleared all that up on national tv don't ya know :fence:

 

[Eileen730]

I think whoever printed the posters just had Amber Alert printed on them because they didn't understand what an amber alert is or the requirements for one. jmo

NOPE here is the waiver about law enforcement Holly is on the amber alert her pic is there she can only be on that list because of this.....

http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=542

 

[Eileen730]

:fence: well the family spokesperson cleared all that up on national tv don't ya know :fence:

LOL OH GEE SOMEONE SLAP ME!!!!!

HIS SILENCE speaks vollumes!!!!!

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Bingo!!!
He is just who I have in mind.
He killed his wife and kids.
He is intelligent and has quite a bit of medical knowledge.
He also worked as a firefighter/EMT so he knows how LE works these cases.
Look how long this survivalist has been missing!!
I think someone just like this has Holly and this man fits my profile to a T.
Older than most seem to be thinking. Also has a military background.
Never got over his mother divorcing his father and blamed her for a lot of the confusion in his life.
JMO and thinks for mentioning him. I wasn't sure if I should.

Man I don't get a reward if I find Osama Bin Laden... was kinda surprised there actually. Holly's abductor has a bigger bounty than Bin Laden.

 

[SNOWINMEMPHIS]

I read somewhere that a perp will hit the victim to stun them as you suggest in your post. But here is where I fall off, if you hit someone hard enough to spray blood across the lawn or leave it on the floor of a carport, what shape is the person in to walk unassisted into the woods? I may be wrong, but without a car it is risky to hit the victim and not expect to render them unconscious and have to carry them. The new video states the brother called a few hours later (911) when he discovered the blood. So there is two hours or so to get a lead on LE. Did the paper or any of the videos say when the neighbor heard the scream? That would be important IMO.

Call me crazy for saying this....it's been said before:crazy:

I deal with blood everyday.
Many ways to obtain/take blood.
I think the blood is probably belonging to an animal not human.
Travels with blood? Strange but my feeling.
Most likely from an animal he trapped.
Now, let's do a little thinking "off the grid":
LE is saying there are items found that they are not discussing.
What about traps?
If he had bled, they would know who it was if his blood was on file.
I don't think the blood was Holly's.
JMO

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/AmberServlet
These are NCMEC fliers of kids with active AA's, notice the HUGE AMBER ALERT info at the top of each.
http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/se...NCMA&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
This is HOlly's. Normal NCMEC flier. No AA.

ETA: Although NCMEC now handles active AA's, there does not need to be an AA for a child to be entered into the NCMEC, since they are powered by reports to NCIC, not by AA criteria.

 

[lillys]

Originally Posted by Eileen730

Me tooooo Nothing is adding up here!
Im doubting the guy in camo!

Thankfully you said it Eileen.
I'm beginning to think you're right. The camo comment just may have been made to throw the investigation off.

 

[Eileen730]

Call me crazy for saying this....it's been said before:crazy:

I deal with blood everyday.
Many ways to obtain/take blood.
I think the blood is probably belonging to an animal not human.
Travels with blood? Strange but my feeling.
Most likely from an animal he trapped.
Now, let's do a little thinking "off the grid":
LE is saying there are items found that they are not discussing.
What about traps?
If he had bled, they would know who it was if his blood was on file.
I don't think the blood was Holly's.
JMO

well that would depend where the blood is if it on the driveway and leads to the woods its not a trapped animal. they would have found the trap and maybe the animal...

 

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by Eileen730


Thankfully you said it Eileen.
I'm beginning to think you're right. The camo comment just may have been made to throw the investigation off.

Sad to say if thats true then LE is on a wild goose chase!

JMO

 

[lillys]

LOL OH GEE SOMEONE SLAP ME!!!!!

HIS SILENCE speaks vollumes!!!!!

lol He is one strange family spokesperson. imoo
He gave no info. :waitasec:

 

[lillys]

Sad to say if thats true then LE is on a wild goose chase!

JMO

I swear Eileen, I wonder if the blood was planted too.:crazy: I know that's crazy but it could happen.

I hope LE will release a wee little bit of info to us.

 

[vjlaw]

NOPE here is the waiver about law enforcement Holly is on the amber alert her pic is there she can only be on that list because of this.....

http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=542

I saw this, but I don't see where it says anything about an Amber Alert issued. When I google amber alert for Holly I find no official amber alert. I still do not believe one was issued. jmo

 

[not_my_kids]

I saw this, but I don't see where it says anything about an Amber Alert issued. When I google amber alert for Holly I find no official amber alert. I still do not believe one was issued. jmo

ANd if you look, that is only a regular NCMEC flier. You don't have to have an AA to get on that page. She is not on the NCMEC AA servlet page. Just a normal NCMEC entry.

 

[GoHard24]

I don't find any motive behind killing her somewhere in the woods and then dumping her remains somewhere along the way. The obvious motive here has to be rape and/or power control.

I think the duct tape and lunch box were obviously staged and her abductor is smart, but not as smart as you'd think. My first impression was that the lunch box was found 8 miles into the woods from her home and that it was still miles away from another road but this is not the case. Even in a rural area, what are the chances of him crossing multiple roads with her in his possession? Not very likely. At 8am there are plenty of people going to work and what not. It's not like this happened at 2 in the morning or something. Placing her lunch box there and having it lead to a river is a good idea in his sense. They'll spend hours upon hours searching a river that has nothing to be found. I'm still puzzled by why he would leave duct tape as a clue to throw investigators off though. The lunch box makes sense as it's easily recognized as hers and he likely left no other evidence with it. The duct tape was lucky to be found as it's so small and the connection wasn't quite there right away. You'd think he'd choose her backpack or purse or something.

I still think she is alive and I'm quite sure she was alive for at least the first few days. As I mentioned I don't see the motive behind just killing her unless it was somebody she actually knew. I doubt she would walk willingly into the woods with anybody, regardless of who they were as she would be late for class.

I want to rule her brother and boyfriend out but something just keeps bringing me back to the initial story. Something just doesn't fit there regardless of whether he passed a polygraph. You never know what could have happened.

I feel the abductor had a car much closer than his staged clues suggest. He knew the families routine and knew that they would realize something was wrong when they saw her car still in the driveway, regardless of whether or not they saw it happen. I don't think they were in the woods for long before entering a car.

What does this "Warm Vehicle Found with Cell Phone Gloves & Camo ~ 4/15/11" mean? I read through this topic but I may have missed something. Thanks in advance.

 

[Eileen730]

lol He is one strange family spokesperson. imoo
He gave no info. :waitasec:

More like a non spokesperson spokesperson!