TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #11

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  • #481
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This is why I keep saying something is different about this case.

In this case it isn't just the usual white, blonde girl getting the attention... because there IS another white, blonde girl missing in Tennessee who is NOT. Her family has expressed a bit of frustration...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...83831830.42651.195150477172504&type=1&theater

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130022&highlight=mook

So WHAT is different about Holly's case that is causing it to get the attention?

Is it simply because of the shocking nature
of her being abducted from her home? While the other is likely a domestic situation?

Is it because they believe there is something more to Holly's situation?
(Serial offender, someone already wanted by the FBI, offender being investigated for something else, etc.)

Is it simply because it's a small community and the family is well thought of?
I don't think so... Elizabeth Smart's family was well though of, plus had the advantage of volunteers from the church and this is even exceeding what we saw with her case.

I don't think we have ever seen the Governor put up a reward in a case like this either. If we did, it wasn't that large of a reward. Not even when it was an officer's family member.

This case could be a total anomaly...

They could just be trying to save her life and prevent him from taking anyone else.
Totally freaked out because she was abducted from her home, could be alive and he might strike again...

Or there could be something big that we are unaware of that would explain this huge response.


No matter what... this is definitely different than other cases.

What has crossed my mind is that since HS reported her attack when it happened, that the police were aware of it well before the public, informed the governor that there might be a serial, and thuss the reward jump from him and the Sheriff's association. But, I don't know when or if they decided this could be a serial thing, because now they are downplaying that possibility.
 
  • #482
Shelley Mook's case doesn't have 'cousin of rising country music star' attached to it.

I really don't think that's it. I, along with many others here, have noted that we have never heard of the cousin.
 
  • #483
Does WS have an Amber Alert forum where specifics of the Amber Alert system can be discussed or posted as a sticky, faq, etc. ? That might help in a lot of ways. I am sure this isn't the only case where people have questions about what constitures an AA or not, etc. And it would be a place to refer new followers of a case to if you did have a question instead of having the same issues discussion repeating itself routinely.
 
  • #484
Ok this bit lifted off a youtube (ex ABC) video shows the context in which the tape was found... I added the arrow but you can see its the same tape (and plants) as in the close up.

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Does it seem strange that the duck tape is on the only green patch within all of those leaves?
 
  • #485
sbm

This is why I keep saying something is different about this case.

In this case it isn't just the usual white, blonde girl getting the attention... because there IS another white, blonde girl missing in Tennessee who is NOT. Her family has expressed a bit of frustration...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...83831830.42651.195150477172504&type=1&theater

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130022&highlight=mook

So WHAT is different about Holly's case that is causing it to get the attention?

Is it simply because of the shocking nature
of her being abducted from her home? While the other is likely a domestic situation?

Is it because they believe there is something more to Holly's situation?
(Serial offender, someone already wanted by the FBI, offender being investigated for something else, etc.)

Is it simply because it's a small community and the family is well thought of?
I don't think so... Elizabeth Smart's family was well though of, plus had the advantage of volunteers from the church and this is even exceeding what we saw with her case.

I don't think we have ever seen the Governor put up a reward in a case like this either. If we did, it wasn't that large of a reward. Not even when it was an officer's family member.

This case could be a total anomaly...

They could just be trying to save her life and prevent him from taking anyone else.
Totally freaked out because she was abducted from her home, could be alive and he might strike again...

Or there could be something big that we are unaware of that would explain this huge response.


No matter what... this is definitely different than other cases.

Another thought: Shelley had just moved to Murfreesboro a week before her disappearance, so had not had time to form bonds with locals. Holly had lived most if not all of her life where she went missing, so had lots of friends and the small town had literally watched her grow up.
 
  • #486
If it was someone she didnt know i think she would have tossed her books at him (if she had any) threw her lunch and ran.... screaminggggggg.... back to the door or her car... I know i was alsways told to use your car keys to jab at someone and inflict as much damage as ya can. Maybe thats what she did if there is blood

other wise its someone she knows!

So if someone she didn't know, came up from behind her, when she turned around, had a gun or a knife, pointing at her face, wouldn't you think she would pretty much freeze on the spot?
We still don't know who's blood it is, would help if we did.
It has been said that she went with him out of fear, she didn't necessarily have to have known him.
Even if she did, if he had a weapon and in fear of her life, IMO she would have done what he said.
 
  • #487
Because if there is something going on behind the scenes that would lead to it being issued in a case where it was inappropriate, then that could tell us something about what LE knows or why the family is so silent. But it wasn't, seems it was likely a Sheriff that didn't have all the details, was looking at the poster that someone made up that said Amber Alert and went from there, even though it was never issued. Which it wasn't. I'm glad it wasn't, as it would be even more unfair to the others missing out there that weren't recovered, (might have been with the AA) but they just barely missed one portion of the criteria.

Oh I see. I'm trying to catch up and I missed somehow that an Amber Alert had never been issued. Is this correct?
 
  • #488
Has anyone here read about a close friend Brennan Duke that passed in a car accident March 26th? (18 days before Holly was abducted)

http://www.paffordfuneralhome.com/visitations/View.php?id=5490

These people have been through ALOT in the last few weeks...

(Apparently a close friend to the people/family involved in this abduction)
 
  • #489
Shelley Mook's case doesn't have 'cousin of rising country music star' attached to it.

Her case also seems fairly straightforward as far as what I gathered from TV. And, I live in FL and it was on TV nightly for a week or so, which is a lot of coverage compared to other crimes.
 
  • #490
sbm

This is why I keep saying something is different about this case.

In this case it isn't just the usual white, blonde girl getting the attention... because there IS another white, blonde girl missing in Tennessee who is NOT. Her family has expressed a bit of frustration...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...83831830.42651.195150477172504&type=1&theater

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130022&highlight=mook

So WHAT is different about Holly's case that is causing it to get the attention?

Is it simply because of the shocking nature of her being abducted from her home? While the other is likely a domestic situation?

Is it because they believe there is something more to Holly's situation? (Serial offender, someone already wanted by the FBI, offender being investigated for something else, etc.)

Is it simply because it's a small community and the family is well thought of? I don't think so... Elizabeth Smart's family was well though of, plus had the advantage of volunteers from the church and this is even exceeding what we saw with her case.

I don't think we have ever seen the Governor put up a reward in a case like this either. If we did, it wasn't that large of a reward. Not even when it was an officer's family member.

This case could be a total anomaly...

They could just be trying to save her life and prevent him from taking anyone else. Totally freaked out because she was abducted from her home, could be alive and he might strike again...

Or there could be something big that we are unaware of that would explain this huge response.

No matter what... this is definitely different than other cases.

I think the community response drove the Nashville media response that ignited the national media response. A great story line "Community Unites to find Abducted Young Woman". It combines a "feel good" (community response) with crime (abduction from home [shock value]) with a beautiful young woman (pretty face for the picture).

I think the governor responded to the media attention.

This was hyped the day it happened. I hope the hype helps to find her!
 
  • #491
That is NOT the AMBER Alert. To be on that page, you do NOT have to have an AMBER Alert issued for you. There are thousands of kids listed on NCMEC. And only ONE is an AMBER Alert.

When we 'figure out' where all those kids are going, we'll be much closer to figuring out a lot of other things too.
 
  • #492
Does it seem strange that the duck tape is on the only green patch within all of those leaves?

no not really. I think if you watch the video or enlarge the small picture there is more green in the brown mulchy area. Granted that is the MOST GREEN patch. Perhaps also the tape got blown (I think it was found after some storms) and it would tumble a bit on the mulch and get stuck on the plants.
 
  • #493
a neighbour also called 911 that morning...what time did she call in comparison to the call Holly's brother made?? I wish there was a timeline done up with all of the events listed, but it seems all of the info is all over the place, some right, some wrong.
 
  • #494
Shelley Mook's case doesn't have 'cousin of rising country music star' attached to it.

This was hyped well before the national media added that tag line. I do not know anything about the cousin, but, let me say there are thousands of "rising country music stars" in this area. It is hard nor to know one, or two, or three . . .
 
  • #495
Well if he did hit her or cut her in a manner that is described, I have to wonder why she held onto her purse and lunchbox? I am just trying to put myself into the victim and see how would I react or the perp and how does this go down in this manner?

So if someone she didn't know, came up from behind her, when she turned around, had a gun or a knife, pointing at her face, wouldn't you think she would pretty much freeze on the spot?
We still don't know who's blood it is, would help if we did.
It has been said that she went with him out of fear, she didn't necessarily have to have known him.
Even if she did, if he had a weapon and in fear of her life, IMO she would have done what he said.

If you were attacked, or even just startled at your home, would you not maybe drop everything, or set it down or something... why would you take things with you... if you were knocked in the face or cut I would think your first instinct would to have your arms or hands come up to your face to guard your face if you got hit in the nose, etc. This is very strange... I'm really thinking she knew something or someone, if not would you not scream and yell to get your brother's attention - I don't know - just my opinion
 
  • #496
a neighbour also called 911 that morning...what time did she call in comparison to the call Holly's brother made?? I wish there was a timeline done up with all of the events listed, but it seems all of the info is all over the place, some right, some wrong.

no concrete time lines
 
  • #497
If you were attacked, or even just startled at your home, would you not maybe drop everything, or set it down or something... why would you take things with you... if you were knocked in the face or cut I would think your first instinct would to have your arms or hands come up to your face to guard your face if you got hit in the nose, etc. This is very strange... I'm really thinking she knew something or someone, if not would you not scream and yell to get your brother's attention - I don't know - just my opinion

this morning it was theorized she may have had her bag/bags over her shoulder and that it was not uncommon to carry bags that way even just going from inside the house to the car that a lot of people slipped the bag on/off rather than just carried it. And it is not known 1) exactly what kind of bag/bags she had 2) how many etc. She could have had a back pack with her lunch bag in it? The lunch bag is theorized to be a purse type bag sort of like those re usable grocery bags.

Its not known who was cut or how or when. She could have dropped her bag and he picked it up. WHo knows.
 
  • #498
If you were attacked, or even just startled at your home, would you not maybe drop everything, or set it down or something... why would you take things with you... if you were knocked in the face or cut I would think your first instinct would to have your arms or hands come up to your face to guard your face if you got hit in the nose, etc. This is very strange... I'm really thinking she knew something or someone, if not would you not scream and yell to get your brother's attention - I don't know - just my opinion

Perhaps it was in a backpack.
 
  • #499
I'm temped to skip thread pages because they're so long but then I'd miss a golden nugget like this map above that shows details of the case. Very good.

I can't say why except maybe I've been thinking and talking to my friends too long, but I am really thinking they need to do a little more searching on 13 that comes through Lobelville.
Prime prime area for caching.
JMO and I need coffee badly
 
  • #500
The reward is for an arrest, right? Could LE be attempting to get a wife/ girlfriend to turn on the abductor? That would be enough to start over somewhere else...jmo
 
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